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The Charges Against Kyle Rittenhouse

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Posted By: Judy W., 9/1/2020 6:43:59 AM

On August 27th, prosecutors in Kenosha County filed six charges against Kyle Rittenhouse which read as follows: 1. First degree reckless homicide, use of a dangerous weapon 2. First degree recklessly endangering safety, use of a dangerous weapon 3. First degree intentional homicide, use of a dangerous weapon 4. Attempt first degree intentional homicide, use of a dangerous weapon 5. First degree recklessly endangering safety, use of a dangerous weapon 6. Possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18. (Snip) The story of Kyle Rittenhouse is more than a gripping piece of news, it is a telling philosophical Rorschach test.

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The tide of public opinion is turning toward Kyle, he says.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: John C 9/1/2020 7:10:40 AM (No. 527664)
Must read.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: MattMusson 9/1/2020 7:17:09 AM (No. 527667)
Breaking! Charges against Kyle Rittenhouse are being changed to: 1 Count - Failure to Display a Hunting License 1 Count - Exceeding the Daily Bag Limit.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Toby Ten Bears 9/1/2020 7:19:22 AM (No. 527670)
Rambo... Formerly known as, Kyle.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: udanja99 9/1/2020 7:28:26 AM (No. 527677)
Between the videos, the dead mens’ histories and Lin Wood, Kyle is going to walk away a free young man. Civil suits against the mayor and governor should follow. The fact that Gaige Grosskreutz has not been charged tells you all you need to know about them.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Rand Al'Thor 9/1/2020 7:34:07 AM (No. 527680)
The scary thing is - does that due process part of the Constitution still apply if you are of the disfavored (that is to say middle) class.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Clinger 9/1/2020 8:13:20 AM (No. 527713)
Agree, a must read, very succinct and and factual. Last night I heard Marie Harf claim that Trump has only denounced violence on the left while supporting it on the "right" citing his support for Kyle. Of course we are supposed to make the connection, to the Charlottesville lie seeing a pattern. She did not mention Charlottesville it is my interpretation that by saying Trump never denounces violence on the extreme right that it was her intent for us to make the connection. So what makes Kyle Rittenhouse a far right extreemist? All we know is that he cleans up graffiti, puts out fires set by leftists, gives aid to injured leftists and defends himself when attacked with deadly force. Somehow a person defending them self by responding to a violent attack with in kind violence is equivalent to the attackers? God I wish I was there to ask.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: HotRod 9/1/2020 8:37:23 AM (No. 527749)
Kyle is one of the few who has done anything to stop the violence. He was attacked for his efforts and had to defend himself. Don't let some judge or politician tell you that you have no right to intervene in lawlessness, or a right to self defense!
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 9/1/2020 9:16:11 AM (No. 527773)
I've commented on this last week. Don't walk the streets armed and going solo in the midst of protesters and rioters. If you must do it, be with a group of your peers. Rittenhouse will be acquitted, but, his life will be wrecked and hell on earth in the meantime. Meanwhile, google the Kenosha County website and send an email to the District Attorney, Michael Graveley. Let him know what you think of his handling of the Rittenhouse case. He has a history of filing charges against persons who were acting in self-defense,
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Reply 9 - Posted by: greyseal 9/1/2020 9:16:13 AM (No. 527774)
The leftist narrative is that he is some clueless teenaged white supremacist who brought a gun across state lines to hang out where he wasn't asked intent on a mass shooting. I've seen this same narrative posted repeatedly on stories about this and it couldn't be further from the truth. His own attorney affirms that he didn't bring a weapon - he borrowed the rifle from a local friend (Kyle worked in Kenosha and had friends there). As someone else noted, he was trying to clean up the community and was part of a group asked by a local businessman to arm and guard the last of his undamaged buildings in downtown Kenosha. It was there that he initially ran into Rosenbaum (the first one shot) who got in Kyle's face when he put out the fire the rioters had started in a dumpster in the street in front of the building. An oddity I noted last night in Rosenbaum's autopsy - he was shot several times in the front of his torso which makes sense given that he was charging at Kyle but the kill shot came from the back. It's possible that Rosenbaum may have spun around but it remains something of an anomaly - especially since there was another shooter in the immediate vicinity (according to the NYT analysis of the video). I think Kyle's in good legal hands, but who knows what twists this will take especially since an ANTIFA-affiliated jailhouse lawyer group is trolling for info on what cell he's in. greyseal
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Reply 10 - Posted by: MDConservative 9/1/2020 9:26:09 AM (No. 527786)
Go read the laws, which are linked. It's not quite that simple by my reading. "A person who provokes an attack, whether by lawful or unlawful conduct, with intent to use such an attack as an excuse to cause death or great bodily harm to his or her assailant is NOT entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense." This is where the case will turn. Did Rittenhouse "provoke" an attack? Let's hear the evidence. If a jury is convinced he did...
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Reply 11 - Posted by: AlpineLace 9/1/2020 9:37:25 AM (No. 527796)
When will these prosecutors learn to file the correct charges?
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Foont 9/1/2020 9:59:55 AM (No. 527821)
The DA is Michael Gravely. Here is a link to his office site: https://www.kenoshacounty.org/Directory.aspx?did=29
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Strike3 9/1/2020 10:00:19 AM (No. 527822)
Is there such a thing as a non-dangerous weapon? That's kind of the point. Kyle was attacked because he chose the right side to defend. His only mistake was allowing himself to become seperated from the group. The Antifa and BLM animals have been using weapons since Day One of their destructive temper tantrum and have a number of actual murders and attempted mass murders on their list but in the liberal version of legalese, that is known as "unrest" or "mostly peaceful protest." Bring one of your protest circuses into flyover country and you will find that Kyle has many like-minded friends out here.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: DVC 9/1/2020 11:21:27 AM (No. 527883)
All of the charges fall apart upon examination with the facts in the case, and the specifics of Wisconsin law on self defense. Good write up. Having taught the law portion of CCW courses in two states, and been personally involved in writing the regulations enacting Kansas' CCW law, I have become familiar with the legal terms and the specifics of how these laws are written and what they mean. I am not a lawyer but worked with a number of them on CCW and other laws for years when involved in writing and lobbying for good firearms rights laws. Mr. Rittenhouse SHOULD have charges dropped at this point, but with a Dem persecutor, that won't happen. But, Mr. Rittenhouse will follow in Mr. Zimmerman's footsteps. Harried by a hostile, lying press, when he gets to a courtroom with a competent legal team, he will be found innocent.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: DVC 9/1/2020 11:25:26 AM (No. 527888)
#4, it is unlikely that the dead and wounded men's criminal histories will be permitted to be entered into evidence. In most cases, this information is considered prejudicial and non-admissible. Occasionally prosecutors screw up and try to make out how nice a guy the poor dead "victim" is and this can open up the character of the victim to rebuttal by the defense, and give the defense the ability to show what sort of slimeballs they were. I doubt that this prosecutor makes that error, but who knows.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: DVC 9/1/2020 11:33:33 AM (No. 527894)
#10, typically "provoking an attack" means clearly picking a fight, verbal taunting, poking, etc. And in my state, even if that happens, as soon as the taunter backs off and walks away, the events start anew with a clean slate. If events then resume, that is entirely on the person who restarts the confrontation after one has withdrawn, regardless of earlier events. That is Kansas law, but perhaps it is different in Wisconsin. But Rittenhouse did not taunt or challenge anyone. The most "provocative" thing he did was trying to put out the fires that they were setting with a fire extinguisher. How many jurors will see attempting to extinguish a fire as 'picking a fight'? I think none. I think Mr. Rittenhouse will easily be found to be innocent. And I hope his life will be normal after this. IMO, he is a hero.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Flagstone 9/1/2020 11:59:36 AM (No. 527935)
As to provoking the attack, there is video of Rosenbaum yelling, “shoot me n**ga” over and over before Kyle was present. You can make the case that Rosen instigated it and the subsequent two shootings stemmed from that. Personally I believe Kyle showed great restraint by not lighting up everyone close to him.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Laotzu 9/1/2020 12:06:50 PM (No. 527949)
This is the first time I have read anywhere (and I read A LOT) that all three men shot were felons.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: mc squared 9/1/2020 12:32:27 PM (No. 527989)
We're all agree that the facts of this case should absolve Rittenhouse, but will he be thrown to the wolves as a sacrifice to appease the lefty rioters?
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Reply 20 - Posted by: DVC 9/1/2020 12:59:44 PM (No. 528023)
Here you go, #18, info on the criminal histories of the "victims" (who were attackers, not victims). https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2020/08/27/the-men-shot-in-kenosha-were-felons-who-were-shot-while-acting-like-felons/ Once again Andy Ngo is doing good work. And note James Woods sending the pic of the armed thug....or is that 'disarmed'? Ick. A .223 bullet is very destructive. Be sure to click on the tweets and then click on the images in the tweets to see the details. Yep, felons. And the shaved headed guy, Rosenbaum, just LOOKS like a thug, and the short video shows his aggressive, violent demeanor.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 9/1/2020 2:31:56 PM (No. 528116)
Had I been in that situation, I hope I would have been as good a shot as the kid was.
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