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New police shooting in Michigan teaches leftists
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Posted By: DVC, 7/16/2020 12:52:51 PM

The Police Tribune released a body cam video (warning: explicit violence) of a Michigan deputy emptying her magazine (after clearing a malfunction) into Sean Ernest Ruis shortly after the unarmed suspect stabbed a senior citizen and then came after the deputy with a knife and a screwdriver. The deputy fortunately did not heed Joe Biden's advice to shoot the unarmed man in his leg, as depicted here: "Instead of standing there and teaching a cop, when there's an unarmed person coming at them with a knife or something, you shoot them in the leg instead of in the heart is a very different thing."

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Three lessons from the video. 1. Some violent thugs will NOT be persuaded by a gun, must be shot down to stop them. 2. All semiautos can jam. The officer does a perfect, QUICK "tap-rack drill", to clear her weapon's malfunction. 3. All handguns are weak, and take multiple shots.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: MindMadeUp 7/16/2020 1:03:59 PM (No. 480385)
The only person I feel bad for is the officer. Not fun to have to shoot someone who is trying to kill you and then have to stand with the body until help arrives. I hope she gets a medal, but more likely she will just get a lot of grief from the Left.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: G Mo 7/16/2020 1:08:25 PM (No. 480395)
I expect that the officer was using a 9mm Glock. Is this the best that a 9mm can do?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: bighambone 7/16/2020 1:12:08 PM (No. 480399)
The perpetrator there was not unarmed, he was armed with a knife, and could have easily murdered that Deputy Sheriff if he had been able to stab her in the neck.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: MickTurn 7/16/2020 1:17:22 PM (No. 480405)
Hey Antifa, this is YOUR future if you continue your madness!
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Namma 7/16/2020 1:34:12 PM (No. 480434)
This officer took the correct actions. Even hussien would have to agree. He is the one who said “they bring a knife to the fight, you bring a gun!” The attacker was not unarmed. He had a knife and a screwdriver. Both were intended to be used as weapons on this officer. My prayers are with this police officer
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Reply 6 - Posted by: jalo1951 7/16/2020 1:35:13 PM (No. 480436)
So I guess the theory of the Barney Fife police officer isn't accurate. One bullet in your breast pocket isn't as good as 15 in your gun. He is dead because of the choices he made BEFORE the police woman needed to protect herself.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: GoodDeal 7/16/2020 1:43:36 PM (No. 480445)
The guy drops rolls over and says oww... Just before going into a deep red asphalt nap.Darwin for bringing a knife and screwdriver to a gun fight. Great job to the brave officer.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: DVC 7/16/2020 1:45:45 PM (No. 480446)
The violent crazy was armed with a knife and a huge screwdriver which would punch a 7 or 8 inch deep hole, a very deadly weapon. She really let him get too close before opening fire. He was just working closer to make his planned attack more effective. All handguns are weak compared to rifles. While energy isn't a precise indicator of stopping effectiveness, it has some value for comparison. The cartridge used in a WW2 and WW1 US Army rifle carried by an ordinary soldier had about 2,800 ft-lbs of energy. The current issue M16/M4 5.56 NATO cartridge has about 1200 ft-lbs. A .30-30 Winchester deer rifle has about 1,800 ft-lbs of energy (all at a few feet from the muzzle). A .44 Magnum handgun cartridge has about 1,000 ft-lbs, a .45 ACP cartridge has about 400 ft-lbs, about the same as a .40 S&W cartridge. The 9mm Parabellum cartridge has about 350 ft-lbs, and the .38 Special cartridge about .310 ft-lbs. The .44 Mag is too big to easily conceal, has more recoil than most can deal with well. Self-defense handgun cartridges have about 1/3 to 1/4th the power of the M16/M4 US Army/USMC rifles. The current M16/M4 issue rifles have about 40% of the power of the big 10 lb battle rifles used in WW1 and WW2. Know in advance that your handgun will NOT do what you see on TV shows, one shot and flop. Usually it will be more like this video, two, three or five good center of mass hits from a good cartridge with a good expanding bullet will still take many long seconds to stop a violent attacker. And practice the "tap-rack drill". Have a friend put a dummy cartridge in your magazine some time at the range. When the gun goes "click", tap the magazine base hard, then rack the slide HARD to clear the bad round and let it go forward, do not follow it down with your hand.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: EJKrausJr 7/16/2020 1:51:54 PM (No. 480455)
Any bets on how a social worker would do in a situation like that?
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Jethro bo 7/16/2020 1:57:40 PM (No. 480465)
I'm shocked that Dems care a fiddler's fudge about this. She shot a white guy. Hard to whip up a good old fashion riot, looting, arson and murdering spree when its only a white guy.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly 7/16/2020 1:59:09 PM (No. 480467)
Head shots matter.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Highlander 7/16/2020 1:59:47 PM (No. 480469)
A social worker will come armed with a clipboard.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: RuckusTom 7/16/2020 2:03:33 PM (No. 480472)
"...when there's an unarmed person coming at them with a knife or something...". Hey Joe. I hate to break it to you. But if a person has a knife "or something", they're no longer unarmed. The two weapons that have probably killed the most people through history are the Roman Gladius and the machete.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: AlpineLace 7/16/2020 2:03:33 PM (No. 480473)
The social worker would be deceased.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Mizz Fixxit 7/16/2020 2:09:14 PM (No. 480483)
Why don’t police officers carry .45 caliber sidearms?
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Reply 16 - Posted by: G Mo 7/16/2020 2:14:56 PM (No. 480489)
My thought exactly, #15. Gabby Gifford took two 9mm to the head....and she's still a Democrat. The .45 has a lot more stopping power.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Lazyman 7/16/2020 2:19:07 PM (No. 480495)
I think the left wants to ban traffic stops.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Maggie2u 7/16/2020 2:44:49 PM (No. 480510)
A bad guy was shot and killed a few blocks from my house this morning. He attacked a complete stranger who was walking his dog and tried to stab another man who managed to fight him off. The cops found him hiding and had to shoot him. All we know is he was a 20 yr old man.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Strike3 7/16/2020 2:49:54 PM (No. 480514)
This kind of violence is not disturbing at all. It's rather satisfying to see a feral animal get what's coming to him. He could have taken out somebody's mother or wife there, just to avoid a traffic ticket.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Strike3 7/16/2020 2:54:58 PM (No. 480522)
The 9mm Glock 19 is about the finest handgun one can get in the reasonable price range. Yes, it takes more than one shot if you don't make a direct head or heart shot. I doubt if police departments are permitted to use hollow point rounds but that would cut down the number of necessary shots to one or two.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: DVC 7/16/2020 3:08:15 PM (No. 480533)
#15 &16, most departments have been issuing a .40 caliber handgun for a number of years, which has proven to be approximately as effective as the .45 caliber handguns, and often has significantly more ammunition capacity. The current trend seems to be more to the 9mm, I think. Take Smith & Wesson police handguns as an example. Their .45 caliber standard M&P carries 10 rounds in the magazine. The equivalent S&W model in .40 caliber carries 15 rounds in the magazine, and the 9mm model carries 17 rounds. Glocks are similar, get 13 in their .45s, same in 40 and 9mm. These two brands probably cover 2/3 to 3/4 of department issue handguns. The Glock .45 is frequently criticized for the larger grip, because of the large magazine. Difficult for people with smaller hands to handle. Personally, I have found many of my women students to be very good shooters, and many handle the .45 very well, but police experience with hundreds or thousands of officers is reported that they do better with .40 and 9mm guns, less recoil. IMO, the .40 recoil is about the same as .45, but a bit sharper in some guns. And 9mm ammo is cheaper and when you have, say 1,000 officers, each shooting 200 rounds per year, that is at least 200,000 rounds - LOTS of money. Cheaper 9mm ammo attracts the bean counters. Modern bullet designs closes the effectiveness gap somewhat between the handgun calibers, but in the end, never forget, all handguns are weak compared to rifles.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: hoosierblue 7/16/2020 3:13:11 PM (No. 480536)
That is why, especially when using a low caliber gun, you should keep firing until his forward movement is stopped.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: BarryNo 7/16/2020 3:24:07 PM (No. 480550)
Firstly, a man with a knife is NOT unarmed. Second, if he attacked an unarmed person (senior citizen) other unarmed persons (from 2-92) are at risk. Thirdly - Make sure the aggressor can't hurt anyone else - Good gun control, there. I wish it had been a shotgun.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: blueline 7/16/2020 3:36:20 PM (No. 480563)
Sorry to disagree with the author, but you can't teach a leftist anything.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: hershey 7/16/2020 4:11:57 PM (No. 480588)
Is this the same Joe Biden that said to empty your shotgun through the front door???? This fools been watching too many Hollywierd movies...
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Calico Al 7/16/2020 4:25:54 PM (No. 480600)
The libs should be happy. She stopped him from breaking the social distancing rule.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: mizzmac 7/16/2020 6:40:10 PM (No. 480694)
An unarmed suspect with a knife and a screwdriver (who's already killed someone with the knife)? How does that work?
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Reply 28 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 7/17/2020 1:23:51 AM (No. 480967)
"Every day you get up and make choices; some good, some bad, and some downright stupid"
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Reply 29 - Posted by: NeverForget 7/17/2020 2:25:13 AM (No. 480997)
I guess I am too dumb to understand that a person actively using a knife (and a screwdriver) to injure others is "unarmed".
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