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George Floyd had ‘violent criminal history’:
Minneapolis police union chief

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Posted By: hughglass, 6/2/2020 2:14:28 PM

The head of the Minneapolis police union says George Floyd’s “violent criminal history” needs to be remembered and that the protests over his death are the work of a “terrorist movement.”  “What is not being told is the violent criminal history of George Floyd. The media will not air this,” police union president Bob Kroll told his members in a letter posted Monday on Twitter.   Floyd had landed five years behind bars in 2009 for an assault and robbery two years earlier, and before that, had been convicted of charges ranging from theft with a firearm to drugs, the Daily Mail reported

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The Truth rarely appears in the lamestream. Most libs thuink Floyd was a saint.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: poliposter 6/2/2020 2:19:39 PM (No. 429760)
Huh? I thought George Floyd was a gentle giant!?
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Reply 2 - Posted by: MMC 6/2/2020 2:27:53 PM (No. 429767)
Wait, the Bible Study - the Bible pics... Only one side of George presented? Say it isn’t so! However, his record does not mean 8 minutes of an officer kneeling on his neck.. and violent riots in response are not ever ok..
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Eagle4ever 6/2/2020 2:31:26 PM (No. 429771)
Oh, You are so right !! He deserved to die. Get real !! This was an outrageous act. I always support police, but this guy stopped being a cop. What he did is worse than any crime in Floyd's "violent criminal history". This so-called cop committed 1st degree murder.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Rumblehog 6/2/2020 2:38:45 PM (No. 429782)
Maybe, just maybe the policeman who held him down knew how much of a badazz he was from their nights together as bouncers at the club?
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Strike3 6/2/2020 2:38:52 PM (No. 429783)
Wait! We forget that it's a new normal. Being drunk, on drugs and stealing from a store is the definition of a model citizen. They tried this with Michael Brown and Treyvon Martin but it's hard to hide past bad behavior and police records. The people reciting that mantra are criminals themselves, Barack Obama, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the rest of the goon squad pushing the story of Black Man Good, White Man Bad..
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Philipsonh 6/2/2020 2:39:33 PM (No. 429785)
I had a strong feeling, without any proof, that Mr Floyd's past was unsavory and that the media covered it up. The bio's I looked at only print what a fine football player he was. HUH ? BUT, the police used excess force and caused his death, directly or indirectly. Very sad. I find the problem to be two very different autopsy results. THAT is going to cause legal chaos.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Lazyman 6/2/2020 2:40:03 PM (No. 429786)
It is part of the overall story although it doesn't mitigate the act. The sad truth is that these cops work with violence everyday and it is only human nature that some, no matter the selection process or training received, will crack. That includes cops without regard to color and the resulting overreaction. Should we just get used to the looting and riots?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: BarryNo 6/2/2020 2:44:11 PM (No. 429792)
I really don't care. He's not the issue, anymore. The Insurrection is. And Those animals DO need their necks stepped on!!
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Reply 9 - Posted by: bighambone 6/2/2020 2:48:13 PM (No. 429804)
We are going to find out that there are two sides to this story, but you still have to wonder what was going through that ex-police officer’s mind keeping his knee on Floyd’s neck, applying downward pressure, thus pinning Floyd to the pavement for about nine minutes, while Floyd was restrained in handcuffs? With four police officers at the scene there was no need for that to occur. When you look back on the press conference that the Floyd family attorney held yesterday, you have to wonder if that attorney was not setting up a false narrative regarding Floyd’s past life by ignoring Floyd’s past violent criminal history, and by putting the person said to be Floyd’s brother up front claiming the Floyd was nothing other than a peaceful gentle giant, in a scenario that would make Floyd’s killing more egregious in the eyes of the unknowing, a story that the attorney also knew that the eager liberal media would report without any verification.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: stablemoney 6/2/2020 2:59:52 PM (No. 429822)
It is undeniable that the officers were terminated without due process, and they have been convicted without a trial, or even an investigation. All these things would seem necessary for a fair and impartial conclusion. This is why we have an adversarial system, where both sides get to present their stories. Both the left and right have agreed to dispense with these officers, without any investigation, trial, or jury. It's very discouraging to have both the right and the left tear our constitution to shreds.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: PostAway 6/2/2020 3:00:36 PM (No. 429825)
Based on the video it appears extremely improbable that there will be justification for Derek Chauvin’s actions but based on the cases of Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown I don’t trust the media and will wait until both sides are presented. However, in 2017 when Somali-born Mohamed Noor shot and killed an unarmed white woman named Justine Damond, a visitor from Australia who had called 911 about strange noises outside the home she was visiting and wound up with a bullet in her chest, I don’t remember any rioting against the police. #3, almost everyone agrees that George Floyd was the victim of at least a tragedy and at most a murder. The issue here is media bias and their presentation of an already inflammatory subject in a skewed and provocative way as we saw with Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: 3XALADY 6/2/2020 3:00:49 PM (No. 429826)
I read about his criminal past in Houston early on, also about his teaching the Bible to people. He was a large man. They tried to put him in the back seat of the police car. He wasn't going. That's why he was on the ground. Another subject, but does anyone else bemoan the fact that now a police call may take multiple cops and multiple cars because subject may be drugged on the Lord knows what. Taxes go up and up and up because of this.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: zzzghy 6/2/2020 3:01:49 PM (No. 429828)
But he's articulate and bright, and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a story book, man. Besides, what's five years in the can, dope, assault, firearms and passing counterfeit money? Martin Loother the King said we should respeck ourseffs. He did say that, didn't he?
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 6/2/2020 3:02:51 PM (No. 429830)
Ok, Kroll. I get your point. But, why did the responding officer elect to choke him to death?
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Reply 15 - Posted by: DVC 6/2/2020 3:03:10 PM (No. 429831)
Hard, factual truth. Convicted of a violent, armed home invasion, spent years in prison.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Vaquero45 6/2/2020 3:09:47 PM (No. 429844)
It’s about time all of this came out. Once a mope, always a mope.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: singermom9 6/2/2020 3:18:10 PM (No. 429855)
Amazing to me that they are all so vehement in there anger about this one killing. (yes, it was terrible) BUT why are they not as ouraged about the 1000's of killing each year in NYC of black individuals dying at the hands of other blacks each year. Selective outrage. Also, I thought one of the groups most seseptable to Covid was minorities. So now they are out there getting contaminated and going to bring that back home to parents and grandparents. Fools.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Gnana1 6/2/2020 3:19:00 PM (No. 429858)
Well, well, well. Things are rarely exactly like they appear. However, no one deserves to be restrained in the manner that George was.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: singermom9 6/2/2020 3:19:32 PM (No. 429859)
So let me get this straight. Mayors are arresting barbers and salon owners and congregants but these groups are allowed to destroy cities with NO retribution?
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Reply 20 - Posted by: dobst 6/2/2020 3:22:09 PM (No. 429862)
I hate to say this but with that record he is just the average Black guy. It’s a terrible thing to say but its mostly true; that’s what should be worked on. There is way too many justified stops of young Blacks guys and White Policemen, which means there is a chance of something going wrong.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Heraclitus 6/2/2020 3:27:01 PM (No. 429870)
Nothing mentioned justifies, nothing could justify, anyone choking the life out of another human being. I don't think Kroll was insinuating that, but he clearly resents Floyd being elevated to sainthood. Let's just be real about the man. This would mean that the leftwing media (i.e., virtually all of the media) would have to stop romanticizing him. won't happen. Nevertheless, the whole truth about Mr. FLoyd would not excuse the unjust judge-jury-executioner cop from his depraved indifference.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: GoodDeal 6/2/2020 3:27:13 PM (No. 429871)
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone ok. He was just a man. Maybe he committed crimes but who is to be the judge jury and executioner in his life? The cop put a Kapernick on the guy's neck. The man was handcuffed behind his back laying face down on the street. The moment the cuffs went on the fight was over. There was no more need for the knee to the neck. It was total negligence and incompetence and apparently lack of training that played a part in his ultimate death. You can be sure the family of Mr. Floyd will collect millions from his wrongful death. Once they get their hands on all dat muhney you know his momma will be rolling in a brand new Cadillac to church on Sunday and his brothers will be looking for a new crib in the part of town where those rich white folks live. Gold chains new gold teeth with diamonds, a new custom whip, and women lined up like it's a free car wash with free bbq.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna 6/2/2020 3:39:51 PM (No. 429883)
I've fired employees and been fired without 'due process' many times. No trial required. It's called 'losing yer job'. If the boss isn't happy......yer gone. As it should be.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: sw penn 6/2/2020 3:51:13 PM (No. 429894)
What Mr. Floyd did or did not do 11 years ago in 2009 is completely irrelevant to what happened during the last 10 minutes of his life. And what did happen during the last 10 minutes of his life is not permission to burn the world down.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: singermom9 6/2/2020 3:51:43 PM (No. 429895)
"There is way too many justified stops of young Blacks guys and White Policemen, which means there is a chance of something going wrong." I agree let's pull ALL police from the inner cities and let them fend for themselves. Never stop a black person just let them all go around and let them do as they please . I am sure THAT will solve the problem. s/o
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Reply 26 - Posted by: gramma b 6/2/2020 3:52:36 PM (No. 429897)
#23. Private employers are not required to provide "due process" unless they stupidly create some kind of due process expectation with their employee handbooks or contracts. Government employers are, however, required to provide due process.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Grounded 6/2/2020 4:54:14 PM (No. 429964)
If Officer Chauvin ever gets his day in court, rest assured that the jury will be shielded from any mention of George Floyd's violent criminal past.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 6/2/2020 4:55:05 PM (No. 429966)
According to reports on the autopsy, George Floyd had Fentanyl and methamphetamine in his system. Fentanyl suppresses breathing and meth speeds up the heart. The policeman went too far, but it wasn't intentional murder. As an occasional watcher of "Live PD" on Friday and Saturday nights, I know that people in handcuffs do and say all kinds of things that are probably false most of the time. This was one of those tragic times when the perp was telling the truth.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: lakerman1 6/2/2020 5:03:14 PM (No. 429974)
the policwe officer, Chauvin, is represented by a police union. I'm certain the labor agreement will have language mthat looks like this - no member of the bargaining unit shall be disciplined, demoted, or discharged, without just cause. The term 'just cause' means, first, good reason. just cause also contains due process protections, known as the Daugherty seven tests of just cause in arbitration. the tests can be condensed, as follows: 1. Did it happen? (as an arbitrator, I have tried cases where nothing happened, yet the grievant was disciplined.) 2. Did the grievant do it? (I have tried cases where something happened, but there was no proof that the grievant did it.) 3. Did the grievant know it was wrong, or should have known it was wrong? (employer training records are important in this area) 4.Was there a full and neutral investigation? 5. Was the grievant given the opportunity to tell his side of the story? 6. Did the disciplinary penalty fit the offense? 7. How were similarly situated employees treated, and was the grievant given the opportunity to change his behavior? (this introduces the concept of progressive discipline, depending on the nature of the offense.) you might ask why a union would go to arbitration in a case that appears to be so clear-cut. the answer resides in a U.S. Supreme Court case, Bowen v. Postal Service, 1983, and your question will be answered. Bowen preempts a 1945 supreme Court case which created 'the duty of fair representation' for a union.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: Newtsche 6/2/2020 5:19:04 PM (No. 429987)
As such you'd think the fool would have learned how to act with the cops.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: PostAway 6/2/2020 5:52:56 PM (No. 430038)
#24, simply and beautifully put.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: watashiyo 6/2/2020 5:57:32 PM (No. 430044)
Floyd, a 6'6" giant, was under the influence of uncontrolled sub., violent criminal past, an ex-bouncer, and was resisting arrest until he had to be subdued on the ground, AND he wasn't wearing a MASK! The police officer had to do what was best in SELF DEFENSE. Remember? Floyd could have been infected with COVID-19. And it was the Liberal Media, the Democrats and the CDC stating Blacks were the predominant victim of COVID-19. So, how else would an officer subdue a giant? Besides, a HALF a knee in the back of the neck instead of directly against the THROAT is not choking! They can still breathe! Conclusion: If he entered the shop to buy a dozen of eggs and paid in legitimate U.S. currency, he would still be alive and could've pursued a career of Ministry.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: DVC 6/2/2020 5:57:41 PM (No. 430045)
I politely disagree with your first point, #24. His violent, combative nature, combined with his use of "intoxicants" (as yet undefined) had EVERYTHING to do with what happened to him at the end of his life.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 6/2/2020 5:59:54 PM (No. 430049)
I don't see how this makes a difference. Floyd was in handcuffs when he died.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: NYbob 6/2/2020 6:31:56 PM (No. 430092)
Floyd was superman. It took 4 cops to control him. Your cops are worthless, pal. They had the guy face down and cuffed, but that wasn't enough for the idiot who put his body weight on Floyd's neck for NINE minutes. Your affirmative action Asian cop who sort of watched it all happen was also worthless. Were they too weak to put him in the back seat of a patrol car? Obviously they were too stupid to think of a way to contain him, other than killing him. 4 vs 1 handcuffed prisoner and they couldn't handle it. Were the other two cops women? That is another bright idea the political class came up with. Women cops on street patrols makes as much sense as women firefighters or women in combat. They can not handle the physical aspects of the job, and neither could your big, tough, kneeler and his Asian partner. There are many police forces with the officers who are up to the job, physically and with the training to subdue a suspect. Especially if there are more than one of them. Maybe check them out. Learn something. BTW, all the write ups on the killer weren't worth filling were they? Floyd was terrible and a giant, but your 4 officers failed miserably and there really isn't an excuse for that. Because of how badly they handled the situation, at least 2 other, better, officers were murdered and thousands suffered because one moron couldn't let up during the NINE minutes it took for him to kill a handcuffed suspect.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: red1066 6/2/2020 7:58:33 PM (No. 430166)
Well, of course he had a criminal history. However, the cop had no business kneeling on his neck like that for such a long time. Especially when Floyd is saying, " I can't breath." while cell phones are recording every moment. Meanwhile, three other cops are right there watching everything, and not doing anything to stop it. No wonder cops all over the country are taking a knee. These four a--holes caused this and put every other cop life in jeopardy.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: enemyofthestate 6/2/2020 10:04:06 PM (No. 430271)
"violent criminal history" is of course the dirty little secret that does not fit the extremist left-wing narrative.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: watashiyo 6/2/2020 10:43:16 PM (No. 430298)
3 cops were there for crowd control until reinforcement arrived. Maybe the cop should've taken a shot at Floyd's leg, as Biden had recommended. Or maybe the cop should've sucker-punched Floyd to restrain him, instead of the knee. Sigh, so busy doing the "Monday Night Quarterbacking." So sad to witness all the looting and violent chaos throughout America on account of one undesirable death from the mother who never cared and now sees a financial opportunity from this national crisis.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 6/2/2020 11:35:40 PM (No. 430330)
Seems like deja vu all over again. Another saint created and more cities burned.
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Reply 40 - Posted by: my2sense 6/3/2020 1:16:39 AM (No. 430406)
Unless that violent history was somehow manifest during Floyd's arrest and murder (not even as far as I could tell during the time he was allegedly passing a fake $20 bill) , I'm not sure how it relates. Gideon and Miranda were also criminals. But they were still entitled to their rights. And that guarded the civil rights of every American. It could be the chief was trying to make some kind of point as to why Floyd was at fault or mitigating the guilt of the police offiers involved but it didn't come through in the article...I would naturally expect the police to back their officers, at least to the point that they are convicted, because, like it or not, they too have rights that have to be upheld. But
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