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George’s Floyd’s preliminary autopsy
raises the question: Was this
another rush to judgement?

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Posted By: Magnante, 5/30/2020 5:47:26 AM

Almost totally absent from the mainstream news Friday, as the violent insurrection in the wake of George Floyd’s death spread to cities nationwide, were the preliminary results of his autopsy. The report was part of the arrest warrant for Derek Michael Chauvin (snip) The brief mention of the autopsy suggests that the case against Chauvin, and possibly his three colleagues assuming they too will eventually be charged, for being totally responsible for the death of Floyd may not be as cut and dried as previously thought.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Saryden 5/30/2020 6:21:50 AM (No. 426061)
Individuals who mask up (or not) and rush in to loot, burn, and injure are criminal -- I am thinking some of them may in fact be terrorists set on destroying America. Where is the justice in using this sorry case to destroy businesses of those not even involved? Who is financing this mayhem... and how were so many cities so instantly ready to join in? The Enemies Within.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: JayD 5/30/2020 6:45:41 AM (No. 426074)
While the riots are obviously horrible, and really have nothing to do with protesting about George Floyd's death, the actions of the police were callous. Placing a knee on a person's neck is not an accepted technique of non-lethal restraint, and training materials actually warn against using any weight on the neck of a suspect in the prone position. The correct method is to put a knee on the back, but even then the weight needs to be lifted once the suspect is subdued and handcuffed. George Floyd should have been sitting in the back of a squad instead of being pressed into the concrete for eight minutes.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Lazyman 5/30/2020 6:52:51 AM (No. 426080)
I guess that instead of getting all drunked up and stealing in the afternoon he should have stayed home and quarantined. Instead he fought the cops for ten minutes and now the thugs say, " too bad about that guy but we get free stuff." The cop definitely overreacted and contributed to this but working in a slow motion riot on a daily basis can apparently cause this. The Urban Surrender response of course furthers the damage and loss of the neighborhood but what else can you expect from the Dims.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: TruthFetish 5/30/2020 6:54:04 AM (No. 426081)
Nothing new here, other than attention to the coroner's boilerplate reference to "potential intoxicants" as contributing to Floyd's demise.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: gwholmessr 5/30/2020 7:17:20 AM (No. 426101)
Of course there is. The officer has a history of violence. They covered for this man before. They worked together and now he’s dead. What did Floyd know that was worth his life.? He’ll get off through time, good police officers will end up being looked at as the same as this piece of garbage and we will be one step closer to a 3rd world country.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 5/30/2020 7:32:11 AM (No. 426111)
Not a judgment, an opportunity.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: franq 5/30/2020 7:37:38 AM (No. 426115)
My initial take on the information I trust: the cop was dirty. This was a bad thing. My Spidey sense is looking at timing and developments though. Start with the WuFlu. Wife tells me that in Sept/Oct 2019 Dr. Faustus was stating "Trump is not ready for a pandemic." Tick, tick, boom. Then we have the Ahmaud Arbery event. Now the George Floyd event. Summer isn't even here yet. Just sayin'.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: jinx 5/30/2020 7:39:38 AM (No. 426117)
This gave the Communists/Antifa mobs to take over cities and destroy. They are paid protestors and we need to know who pays them. George Soros comes to mind. They do it in the name of Racism which is the catalyst that stirs the pot. It is evil overcoming good. Satan is alive and well in America.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: ARKfamily 5/30/2020 7:42:04 AM (No. 426119)
Both of these people were wrong. George Floyd (if guilty) should not have been involved in a forgery act and the police officer should not have had his knee on this person for 8-9 minutes. The riots and damage is brought on by the same type of people. Faithless. They are not acting in accordance with God's ways. If you believe all of this stuff is okay, you are living earthly ways. If you are in a position of authority and think any of this okay, you are leading with earthly ways. This is all disgusting.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: ARKfamily 5/30/2020 7:42:53 AM (No. 426120)
and sad. . .
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Reply 11 - Posted by: RuckusTom 5/30/2020 7:53:17 AM (No. 426129)
Choke the guy out with a knee to the neck, and then say he had high blood pressure or some other condition - is that the defense you're going with here? How 'bout completing the picture - a unionized, public employee - paid by taxpayers - murdered the guy by strangling him to death ... just following orders.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: franq 5/30/2020 7:55:53 AM (No. 426132)
Also believe the autopsy is just CYA for Klobuchar. She's complicit in this by not dealing with the cop.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Muguy 5/30/2020 8:02:01 AM (No. 426139)
What if Mr. Floyd had just been any other human being who had been subjected to what transpired? Would there have been the same reaction? What makes this different from other instances where there are physical restraints from law enforcement and something tragic happens? Praying hard that the protests of righteous indignation will remain peaceful. We must find the Martin Luther Kings of today who would not approve of the lawlessness, burning, looting, and violence which does nothing to make the situation better.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: BarryNo 5/30/2020 8:03:37 AM (No. 426141)
Check the cop's voting record. The more I see of this the more I think this was planned by the Dems, because Covid was going away. I personally suspect a lot of the school shootings are planned or instifated, to create these 'crisis' Democrats love not to go to waste. 80% - 90% of school psychologists are liberal, with a huge percent social justice warriors. How easy would it be to push a disturbed student over the edge "for the Greater Good"? Notice most of these students are also liberal, with liberal parents, yet still wind up with access to some pretty heavy firepower.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: MDConservative 5/30/2020 8:19:01 AM (No. 426158)
There’s this thing that you take situations as you get them. Floyd may not have been choked to death, but he died of underlying causes...which means his apparently rough handling by police killed him. Many will dismiss the findings as a coverup - like those covids deaths that aren’t. And the rioters and agitators don’t care.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: spacer 5/30/2020 8:35:20 AM (No. 426167)
Lots of conspiracy stuff going on here. My two cents. Cop is a thug. Mr. Floyd was a crook. There are reports he and a couple of his buddies were doing a bunch of funny money shopping. None of the pillaging has anything to do with the dead crook.I believe the autopsy. Will wait for the drug test to come back.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: RedWhite&Blue2 5/30/2020 8:44:18 AM (No. 426188)
Burn the police station down? And get away with it? Burn CNN headquarters? And get away with it? Loot and destroy a Target superstore? And get away with it? Burn businesses owned by innocent ones? And get away with it? “Burn this mother down”—Ferguson They got away with it there. It’s THEM again... Always THEM... Always violent and angry and criminal. They prove themselves as societal failures. As uncivilized agitating feral THUGS Always reverting to hateful angry violence.. This sad experiment needs to end. We put the wrong people on reservations.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: edgar 5/30/2020 8:53:01 AM (No. 426212)
Rush to judgement? There is no one who stick up for what the police officer did. If it was not the direct cause of death (murder), it was a major contributing factor (manslaughter). The 'protests' on the other hand are another story. You would think the FBI could be able to identify the groups behind the organized 'chaos', but apparently the FBI is more focused on Trump Administration phone calls with foreign diplomats. The FBI has lost its way.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Jebediah 5/30/2020 8:58:35 AM (No. 426221)
Baloney-------I have had counterfeit bills passed to me in grocery stores etc. on more than one occasion, and in any case this was, even if intended, a non-violent crime. MOST significant is the fact that Floyd's vital signs were nill and yet this cop kept his full weighted knee on the man for a full 2 minutes 47 seconds afterward. THAT is premeditated murder, and any martial arts trainer will tell you that a knee, full force, to the carotid artery can kill you!!!!!!!!
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Reply 20 - Posted by: TCloud 5/30/2020 9:19:42 AM (No. 426246)
Every Fire has a point of origin.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: montwoodcliff 5/30/2020 9:33:21 AM (No. 426265)
I don’t care what Floyd died from. That officer is still responsible for that man's death regardless.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Urgent Fury 5/30/2020 9:37:08 AM (No. 426272)
Even if, in the unlikely event that 200lbs of cop on his neck didn't at least contribute to the guy's death, the optics are unbeatable. There's just no way to defend what happened, especially to the Mobs.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Chuzzles 5/30/2020 9:38:20 AM (No. 426275)
That is why it is always good to wait at least 24-36 hours before forming a hard opinion anymore. These riots are indeed to hide behind, for there is a real agenda at work here. Has been for a very long time. The media is very careful to censor stories that accidentally let that truth out too.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Ditto1958 5/30/2020 9:46:13 AM (No. 426291)
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Reply 25 - Posted by: stablemoney 5/30/2020 9:54:24 AM (No. 426310)
I do not know what happened before this video, and neither does anybody else. Judgments should be based on all the facts, and by chosen, impartial jurors, not tv and media jurors, after an adversarial trial before an impartial judge. I am tired of these media incitements that have gotten a lot of cities burned to the ground. The media should be put on trial. Resisting arrest could cause death, if a person has underlying health conditions. Why isn't that mentioned as a contributing factor? Is that because it doesn't fit the narrative? All these demonstrations, burnings, and violence are orchestrations by activists, paid for and organized by people from somewhere else, including Soros. It won't work. Frankly, the left can burn all their neighborhoods down, and I would not care. Now idiots, you don't have any place to buy the things you need.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Rumblehog 5/30/2020 10:31:18 AM (No. 426367)
Autopsy complete - he died of Coronavirus s/o
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Reply 27 - Posted by: DVC 5/30/2020 11:13:50 AM (No. 426427)
Yes. Clearly. I posted several times that we needed to wait to find out what he had in his system and what actually killed him. I did not originally, and still do not, believe that a knee on the BACK of the neck will significantly interfere with your airway, which is totally on the front, and is protected from the rear by the spinal bones and the very strong, large neck muscles on the back. Baltimore - all cops acquitted, by largely black juries. The city burned, riots for days, and it was all fake. Zimmerman -acquitted. Ferguson - no charges filed after investigation and presented to mostly black grand jury. The city burned, riots for days, and it was all fake. We have been played again by Ben Crump, and all the other black grievance thugs anxious to gain power and money by harming interracial relationships with their false narrative that the police kill black men for no reason. The hard facts are that police do NOT kill more blacks than whites, they kill more whites by a large margin, and the overwhelming majority of those are entirely justified cases for both races.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Strike3 5/30/2020 11:26:12 AM (No. 426451)
Regardless of the physical condition of George Floyd the cops acted stupidly and were filmed doing it. If you shoot at a person in the water and he goes under, did the bullet kill him or did he drown because he couldn't swim? Answer, it doesn't matter. The degree of murder with which they are charged does not matter to George, the man is dead and it was their negligence and excessive force that caused it. The destructive rioters are another story. Any of them who can be identified should be charged with a crime but mayor pretty-face won't dare do it. They might riot.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: john56 5/30/2020 11:26:36 AM (No. 426454)
Wair a minute. Yeah he may have died from a heart condition, but the acute event was perpetrated by the action of the officer or officers on the scene. Many years ago, there was a case where some young thug beat up a kid coming off a school bus. Kid died. Autopsy said natural causes but hey, yhe lid was alive before the thug beat him to death.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: Strike3 5/30/2020 11:37:36 AM (No. 426469)
#17, although highly politically incorrect by today's standards, has the best post here. We can't reverse it at this point but the battles are coming. Wait until they try this stuff in flyover country.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: MindMadeUp 5/30/2020 12:07:25 PM (No. 426503)
If true, the thug of a cop will probably only be convicted of negligent homicide, and a good attorney might even get him out of that charge. Expect months and months of riots, right up until the election is over. This gives even more reasons for Democrats to demand fraud by mail voting, since it's unsafe to go to a polling place while rioters are practicing unsafe social distancing nearby.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby 5/30/2020 12:12:10 PM (No. 426510)
And there's more. The cop worked a part time job. Guess who also worked at the same place as the cop? Yes, Floyd. The cops neighbors didn't know he was a cop. Does this seem a little fishy? There's more but I don't want to be one of those conspiracy theorist. And the guy with a face mask and umbrella knocking out the windows at the Auto Zone, he was outed. He's a St. Paul policeman.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: DCGIRL 5/30/2020 1:41:20 PM (No. 426604)
Let's all wait to see how he actually died. I still think that that police office was out of line. The knee on the throat was beyond what should have happened.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: HoneymoonGal 5/30/2020 4:50:28 PM (No. 426762)
My son is a radiology resident at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis. As part of his residency he works at the University Hospital, Hennepin County Medical Center, and the VA. He is very interested in seeing the imaging, especially his neck and spine images, because he thinks there is a very real possibility that his neck and spine were also damaged due to the pressure of a man's full body weight on his neck for so long. There were probably many contributing factors to George Floyd's death, but the fact the cop kept his full body weight on this man's neck for over 8 minutes was a huge part of it.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: formerNYer 5/30/2020 4:57:40 PM (No. 426768)
It was the knee on the neck. And abhorrent behavior. I hope he gets 15 years in prison. Reagan Republican here.
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Posted by fysammy 6/2/2020 9:05:02 AM Post Reply
This isn’t an internet tough guy post. This isn’t me flexing about my love of the 2nd Amendment and practice thereof. This isn’t about how well I can shoot, or what kind of guns I own. This is a legitimate warning about what will happen. Riots are popping up in cities over the murder of George Floyd, completely overshadowing the legitimate protests containing peaceful people making a valid point. Some of these rioters, namely those belonging to the group “Antifa,” have mentioned that they’re going to leave the cities and move their destruction and violence into the suburbs.
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