California governor: Shrink prisons
to help cut budget
Associated Press,
by
Don Thompson
Original Article
Posted By: poster,
5/16/2020 1:36:51 PM
Gov. Gavin Newsom is proposing to significantly shrink the footprint of California's prison system, partly because of massive budget cuts prompted by the pandemic but also because of philosophy. The revised budget he sent to state lawmakers this week envisions closing two state prisons in the coming years; cutting nearly one in five of the 43 inmate firefighter camps; and eventually closing all three state-run juvenile prisons. He's also seeking unspecified increases to sentencing credits that allow inmates to leave prison more quickly. And he proposes to shorten parole to a maximum of two years, down from five years for felonies, and let ex-felons earn their way off supervision
Reply 1 - Posted by:
mc squared 5/16/2020 1:40:42 PM (No. 412875)
Not a great idea but force Newsom to relax California's gun restrictions to go with it.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
seamusm 5/16/2020 1:44:05 PM (No. 412878)
Reasonable proposals. Even a broken clock is right..... Were we to stop criminalizing non-violent drug offenses society might not need as much prison space and, more importantly, our minorities might not have so many strikes against them preventing them from legal employment.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
stablemoney 5/16/2020 2:04:35 PM (No. 412893)
Shrink Ca. state government to cut the budget! You don't need the $100K plus employees or the state unions. Let them go and get some less expensive guys to fix and clean the streets.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
earlybird 5/16/2020 2:19:06 PM (No. 412897)
He is insane. I hope you are all praying for us (not the CA Dems, but at least 5 million Republicans + others to chicken to admit it - we ride out hurricanes and tornadoes with you!) and will be around to cheer when he is Gavin the Gone...
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
earlybird 5/16/2020 2:20:47 PM (No. 412898)
Leave the prisons alone and stop supporting illegals, GN… That will help the budget a whole lot… And probably ease the load on the prisons as well...
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
JimBob 5/16/2020 2:22:29 PM (No. 412902)
I have an idea to fix the Califonia deficit....
Shut down the state government.
Yep, Abolish it altogether.
No Governor, No Legislature, No State employees. No Nuthin.
Poof- No more spending, and the Deficit disappears!
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Ah, the threat of releasing prisoners, huh?
Eventually you run out of other people's money.
The dirty little secret, they've been buying the votes of the public employee's for decades to cement their one-party control. They fattened salaries, benefits and mostly pensions.
A prison guard is considered law enforcement, and entitled to 3% per year pension, so after 25 years, they retire, maybe around 50-55 at 75% of their highest pay. Same with all LE in the State of California.
That's an obligation the state must fund, and anything the pension system (CALPERS) can't fund, MUST be paid by the general fund BEFORE any other state program.
Fully expect to see a lot of people close enough for retirement to do just that, and not decide to return to the classroom, or other agency, which the governor should be encouraging. They'd be able to hire a much lower salaried person, which would save $$$ in the budget.
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California Governor needs a shrink....
Fixed it.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Timber Queen 5/16/2020 2:54:16 PM (No. 412919)
The prisoners are not going to like life on the "outside". They have to shelter in place, but have no place to shelter in. They can't get a meal because the restaurants are closed. All the bars are closed. They can't be anywhere with more than 10 people. They can't go to the beach or a park. They can't take refuge in a movie theater. If they want a job, they can't have a job because no businesses are open. They can't burglarize homes because the owners are present. They can't steal cars because they are in everyone's garage. They can't pickpocket because no one is on the streets. Imagine how disconcerting a visual it is to see the rubes masked like robbers! What's the cache of being of criminal when a hair stylist in Texas has also served time?!
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
hershey 5/16/2020 2:57:47 PM (No. 412922)
Might as well, he's already let a lot of the jerkwaters out to wreak more havoc....
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
subal 5/16/2020 3:02:35 PM (No. 412928)
This is an outstanding idea!
Release all of them in Marin County.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
SALady 5/16/2020 3:11:16 PM (No. 412935)
Proof #857,329 that you cannot be a lie-beral if you have more than 6 active brain cells!!!!!
I am pretty sure that Gov. Newsom has about 2 active brain cells left.
Massively higher crime rates (from criminals knowing they won't be in jail long if they do get caught), combined with ever stricter gun control, will make the law abiding citizens of Cuba-fornia into victims at rates unimaginable. And I wonder how many of those lie-berals that think this is the greatest idea ever will feel the same when that crime wave hits them and their families???
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
doctorfixit 5/16/2020 3:34:52 PM (No. 412947)
Democrats will use any excuse to create social chaos, soften up the people for the police state, and reward psychopath predators.
If you think prisons are expensive, wait till you see the cost of letting them out of prison.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
edgar 5/16/2020 3:45:18 PM (No. 412960)
No jobs in CA, it is closed. Those released will have to go on the dole under other programs. What are the estimated savings vs.the risk to society? Just asking. Can this same risk/reward be assessed for opening the CA economy? Which has the better payback?
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
BigGeorgeTX 5/16/2020 4:00:22 PM (No. 412975)
I have a better idea... Tune up the gas chamber, and start using it!.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
dwa 5/16/2020 4:05:44 PM (No. 412978)
What a complete idiot. They can cut the budget easily by not supporting the illegals. But instead, supporting illegals is more important than keeping their citizens safe from criminals who present a danger to them.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
ronniethek 5/16/2020 4:16:14 PM (No. 412987)
Recall this butt hole.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
DVC 5/16/2020 4:21:42 PM (No. 412992)
Literal insanity.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
sw penn 5/16/2020 4:37:18 PM (No. 413002)
#PrisonersIn-IllegalsOut
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There used to be 100s of firecamps, but in the 1990s, between Clinton and California democRATs, they were greatly reduced. The dead undergrowth multiplied, becoming fuel for forest fires. When I studied archeology I learned that Native Americans would purposely burn out that undergrowth to prevent massive forest fires. Billy Boy Clinton even destroyed the forest firebreaks and fire roads that humans used to put out forest fires. My favorite example to the environmental wackos is the phrase 'I've never seen a squirrel pick up a hose and put out a fire.'
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
snowoutlaw 5/16/2020 8:57:52 PM (No. 413152)
Somethings never change. Its the same old story, in order to fool the voters into supporting higher taxes Democrats always cut the things the people want more of not less like schools and prisons at the same time increasing sending on things people do not want like welfare for illegals. Its the same old story been going on for as long as I have been paying attention which is over 50 years. Why stop most people are too stupid to notice.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Chuzzles 5/16/2020 10:37:21 PM (No. 413189)
Terrible idea. You know why the cops are not chasing down law abiding citizens for social distancing violations? Because they are too busy cleaning up the mess the early releases have already been making. There is no such thing as a victimless crime. You don't have to have violence to be victimized.
Previous comment has it all wrong. We need to deport all illegals, and that would help shrink the prison population and the cost. Would do the same for schools, and our healthcare system. And boohoo to the minorities who commit crimes and have problems when they get out. Nobody forced them to do the crime, and it is called personal responsibility to be a decent person. The blue state governors who have been killing the nursing home elderly, and letting criminals run amok need to be prosecuted right along side the criminals.
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