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No, Trump is Not Crazy for Suggesting
UV Light and Disinfectants to Treat Covid

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Posted By: Maryland_Patriot, 5/1/2020 10:46:42 AM

Journalism is a long-lost art, once used to inform people, reporting news in an unbiased manner, offering reasoned opinion in a balanced way. Now the singular goal of most American journalism is to make President Trump look bad, parsing his words or taking them completely out of context. (snip) The rest of the media joined in, with headlines like, “Trump’s disinfectant ideas horrify doctors and academics.” His comments were described as “musings”, another way of saying “thinking outside the box”, a concept unknown within the Washington DC bureaucracy.

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UV light has a long history of being used for disinfecting. Before antibiotics, ultraviolet blood irradiation was used. When antibiotics became available, UBI was shelved. Bad move. Now e have all these antibiotic resistant bacteria, and few if any antibiotics in development.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Words have Meaning 5/1/2020 10:56:22 AM (No. 397457)
My brother just told me about "blue light therapy" for jaundice newborns Maybe it will work for Covid-19 cases and just maybe Trump was on to something.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Lawsy0 5/1/2020 11:09:27 AM (No. 397474)
Rush Limbaugh has a picture of such a light on his website. (The free side.)
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Reply 3 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 5/1/2020 11:15:53 AM (No. 397487)
They are already being used against CV19. Friend just told me about an article detailing what happens at Hong Kong airport. Each person entering the airport steps into a disinfectant booth for 40 seconds. People are being sprayed with disinfectant. Robots with UV light are being used to clean restroom areas. This may well be the wave of the future for airports, arenas, and stadiums. Maybe even smaller places like movie theatres. Wait and see.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: IowaDad 5/1/2020 11:17:29 AM (No. 397489)
With respect, disinfectants by their nature destroy all live forms -- bacteria, viruses, fungi and multicellular organisms like you and me. Trump's stream of consciousness speaking about this topic was absurd. He gets about 10% grossly wrong, But I forgive him completely, because the other 90% is vastly more valuable than any other leader. MAGA!
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Reply 5 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 5/1/2020 11:22:03 AM (No. 397495)
Another point regarding disinfectant. It does not get rid of what's inside your body. A person would still be a disease carrier.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: NHChemist 5/1/2020 11:57:50 AM (No. 397537)
Note that chlorine gas is not a nerve agent. Chlorine gas causes edema (fluid) in the lungs causing the victim to drown in his lung secretions. If the victim survives the initial attack, pneumonia may kill days or weeks later if the damage to the lings is too great.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: NHChemist 5/1/2020 12:01:22 PM (No. 397540)
Make that "if the damage to the lungs is too great."
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Reply 8 - Posted by: hammondb3 5/1/2020 12:20:50 PM (No. 397553)
A biomedical firm has rights to a device that delivers UVA into the airway to kill pathogens in the upper respiratory area. Aytu Biomedical I think it is. YouTube has been removing their links...
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Reply 9 - Posted by: earlybird 5/1/2020 12:31:04 PM (No. 397563)
This is a new device which incorporates a UV light on the end of an endoscope. Can be run through a trach/ventilator in order to treat insides of lungs in persons on ventilators. Developed at Cedars Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, it is called Healight. Yes, I believe Rush featured it.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: montwoodcliff 5/1/2020 12:48:20 PM (No. 397587)
The big point of this article is that anything Trump says is to be discarded as lunatic ravings. He doesn't have Democrat Immunity. Several days ago I commented about Trump's remarks. I said he was brainstorming, a technique used by engineers and advertising people--throw anything against the wall, no matter how outrageous and see what sticks. Dr. Joondeph calls it musings. Whatever, Trump is stimulating discussion. You never know what may turn out to be helpful. As far as I'm concerned, I do not believe anything in the MSM about Trump or anything else, unless it comes from the horse's mouth. And everything Trump said about disinfectants has been distorted. There is no truth detector except for the Conservative Media and Rush.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Starboard_side 5/1/2020 1:10:59 PM (No. 397623)
Watch the press conference when he brings up the UV light comments, and it's clear he's been briefed on some of the treatments that people are either working on, or have developed. Maybe like the #9's comment about the Healight that Cedars Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles uses. The mention of bleach was another topic, and referred to the use on surfaces. It was two Democrat activists who heard something else, and tweeted comments about ingesting disinfectants, or as Nancy commented, Lysol, specifically. Showing she's either too dumb to know the difference, or purposely provided false information.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 5/1/2020 1:23:16 PM (No. 397639)
Don't forget that Nasty Pelousy walks around with a faceful of botulism toxin. She seems to think that is OK.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Pete Stone 5/1/2020 2:14:00 PM (No. 397679)
Sodium hypochlorite solution ("chlorine bleach") is called "Milton's solution" in the medical profession. It is usually diluted to about 100 parts per million as active chlorine, or less, when used as an antiseptic, although it has been used at the 400 ppm level to treat burn victims. In those cases the patient is bathed in a 400 ppm solution. The reason is that severely burnt people have suppressed immune systems and have eschar (scar tissue) in place of skin in their burnt areas. Eschar is no barrier to bacteria, and even normal environmental bacteria can be lethal to a patient with third-degree burns. Four hundred parts per million chlorine is bad for bacteria but not bad for burn patients. Got that, MSNBC and CNN?
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Reply 14 - Posted by: mathman 5/1/2020 3:58:40 PM (No. 397743)
It is unfortunate that the reporting on UV light and disinfectants lacks scientific and clinical support. Things made of long-chain molecules (like viruses) stop being active when molecular bonds are broken. Disinfectants are chemically active and break molecular bonds. That's why they are called disinfectants: they kill infectious cells and viruses. UV light is made up of photons which have a relatively large energy: these photons have enough kick to break molecular bonds. The effects of UV and disinfectants has been known since a) the discovery that bacteria can cause disease and b) the discovery that sub-cellular molecules (viruses) can also cause disease. Of course there is also heat: the autoclave is found in all places where medicine uses instruments; the autoclave is a pressure cooker capable of destroying viruses and bacteria. So these three: UV light, disinfectants, and heat are all used regularly in medical establishments. The issue of destroying viruses and bacteria within living beings is more subtle. Animals have mechanisms for doing this; white blood cells (bacteria) and the immune system (T-cells) (virus). Disinfectant and UV are not applicable, generally speaking, inside the body. It is because of the known capacity of UV and disinfectant that nurses are yelling at full volume for protective gear. The virus is sub-cellular and mobile, and will slip through the smallest gap in protective gear. And this particular CV-19 appears to slip in and reproduce with alarming speed. It is just part of the "get Trump" narrative of the Lame Stream Media.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: MickTurn 5/1/2020 4:53:38 PM (No. 397789)
What horrifies me is the total incompetence and BIAS of the Lame Stream Media JERKS. Didn't the govt. expert say the virus lasts about 1.5 minutes in a hot environment and 15-20 minutes in a cool/cold environment? What about keeping the infected in warmer areas to slow the virus and kill it... Yes, different wavelengths of light kill bacteria and virus'...get over it MSM Jack Weeds! Oh by the way MSM, maybe you're reporting would be lots better if you drank a can of Draino every morning...
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Reply 16 - Posted by: EQKimball 5/1/2020 6:49:15 PM (No. 397868)
Musing and thinking outside the box may be fine in a room of close advisers. Doing it on live national television regarding a life and death topic with a hostile media sitting there ready to pounce on anything, well, what in the H-E-double-hockey sticks is he thinking sometimes? It doesn't matter if his supporters can make a good argument in his defense. As a wise man once said, "You never have to explain what you meant by what you don't say."
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