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Posted By: Imright, 4/30/2020 2:43:43 PM

President Trump was interviewed on the coronavirus crisis by Reuters on Wednesday. But he also offered an interesting quick take on the Navy's official release this week of three videos showing U.S. Naval Aviators intercepting UFOs in 2004 and 2015.“I just wonder if it’s real, that’s a hell of a video," Trump said.That might seem like a lighthearted comment designed to shut down further conversation. And it is. But Trump's particular choice of words should pique our curiosity for other reasons.First, he is reinforcing the fact that the U.S. military and intelligence communities cannot explain what these objects are.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 4/30/2020 2:56:40 PM (No. 396672)
So - - let me understabd this. A brilliantly intelligent species - - invests huge amounts of wealth - - to develop a technology which allows for the immense distances of interstellar travel. They manage to find our planet - - which they can tell contains sentient creatures - - us - - by detecting our electronic signals from millions of miles away. They react to this astonishing phenomenon - - by hovering their incredibly expensive, incredibly high-tech vehicle over a swamp in Georgia - - and then whiz away without any effort to contact the intelligent life forms - - which they have invested so much time and wealth to reach. Yup - - alien visits from another solar system seem plausible to me!
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Reply 2 - Posted by: curious1 4/30/2020 3:05:44 PM (No. 396675)
#1: 1) They may not consider us particularly intelligent. We maybe the stupid kids in the neighborhood. 2) It may not be all that difficult to appear at a S/T loci far removed from your present location. See pt. 1. 3) They mostly seem to be doing things that are obscure to us. See pt 1. 4) Even if you sent an F22 back in time to WW2 - we couldn't reproduce it or even keep it flying. And that's less than a century back.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: czechlist 4/30/2020 3:07:42 PM (No. 396678)
So, Ida Lou, you are suggesting this "intelligent species" thinks like you? Pretty arrogant.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Urgent Fury 4/30/2020 3:19:19 PM (No. 396688)
Our planet is probably the interstellar equivalent of a comedy club for them to visit.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: obdurate 4/30/2020 3:26:11 PM (No. 396696)
If you saw the movie"Men in Black" they are Here!
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Reply 6 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly 4/30/2020 3:27:24 PM (No. 396698)
It not that U.S. military and intelligence communities cannot explain what these objects are, it's that they're not going to explain it to everyone. Black projects are just that. Unidentified doesn't mean from outer space.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: hershey 4/30/2020 3:37:29 PM (No. 396708)
Perhaps we'll finally get some truth about UFO's from Trump....but then again, maybe aliens have landed and taken over liberals..that might explain things...invasion from within...remembering the SF movie about the guy that found the sunglasses that allowed him to see which 'humans' were really aliens...they were probably all liberals... And wondering about all the 'scientific' advances since the 40's and Roswell...I know our military stole secrets from Hitlers rocketeers and actually put them to work here at home (Von Braun), so what makes one believe they haven't 'recovered' advances from an alien ship or three???
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Reply 8 - Posted by: EQKimball 4/30/2020 3:43:53 PM (No. 396719)
My great grandparents would not have believed a television broadcast was possible. If they had seen one, they would have wondered how people could get inside a television set. Maybe we are seeing images of real objects that are transmitted with sufficient atomic signature to be viewed and detected by radar and laser. My guess is that these structures are transmitted from ground stations and distant airborne platforms, such as military aircraft. The purpose would be deception and even public panic during a world war.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Catherine 4/30/2020 3:58:59 PM (No. 396738)
# 1 - excellent comment. My thoughts exactly. I found it odd it looked exactly like movie versions of flying saucers.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Strike3 4/30/2020 4:04:15 PM (No. 396743)
While the technology to create holograms, trick photography, etc. can be measured in decades, UFOs have been sighted for hundreds of years. We used sound recordings and fake plywood tanks to trick the Germans in WW2 so the idea has been in use for a "while." I remember the first time I saw an SR-71 Blackbird take off before the plane was general knowledge and I was thoroughly amazed. The stealth bombers and fighters revealed in the first Gulf War were a total surprise to most people so I'm guessing that the advanced militaries of the world are at least 20 years ahead of common knowledge in experimental equipment. If UFOs are mostly unmanned drones, then the rapid movements they make are believable.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: worried 4/30/2020 5:02:18 PM (No. 396793)
What always amazed me is that, according to some alien abduction victims, that they would travel billions of miles to pick up and probe someone named Cletus. You would think they might want to talk to our leaders, but no, they want information from the Beverly Hillbilly types. Aliens may be smart in some ways, but they sure can be dumb!
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Bohallx 4/30/2020 5:09:00 PM (No. 396799)
For anyone interested, they are homing in on PLANET #9 ~ which, if it's just a normal planet, would likely be in between the size of Earth and Neptune ~ At the same time it appears to have every characteristic of a small BLACK HOLE.... Sufficiently advanced civilizations have likely figured out how to use black holes to facilitate travel around the universe... If so, there's one of your choices for why "flying saucers" could fly so far to visit a primitive backwards third-sun planetoid of very little consequence. They aren't visiting ~ just joy riding ~ and it's rather like checking out the vagrants hanging around a intercity bus station. BTW, that explains why they are all different.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: red1066 4/30/2020 5:19:26 PM (No. 396806)
According to some in government insiders familiar with this stuff, there is some secret government organization or unit that operates inside the Pentagon that has produced these vehicles that not even the President is kept informed about. Well I don't know about that, but The Pres can't know about everything going on. These things have gone from 28,000 feet to sea level in about eight tenths of a second. They certainly aren't operated with a crew, but what possible information could aliens gain by operating these craft the way they appear in these videos. Any civilization that could build these things wouldn't need to operate them in that manner to gauge our military capability.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: DVC 4/30/2020 5:25:22 PM (No. 396812)
The Examiner is a NeverTrumper paper.....so at the end, the obligatory - "Trump is a liar, really a deep stater" BS is slathered on, so the reporter can keep his job.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: DVC 4/30/2020 5:28:02 PM (No. 396814)
If we went to a distant planet, and the 'people' there were very much behind us technologically, would we do anything beyond study them and try to stay out of their way, and not screw up their development path? Probably not, unless the ChiComs were in charge, or Pelosi.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: DVC 4/30/2020 5:31:30 PM (No. 396818)
If it is something that humans made, not piloted, the necessary G forces would wipe them out....unless the drive is some sort of gravitational drive which can eliminate inertial effects as desired. Now THAT would be cool. Seems plausible that these are extra terrestrial, and just looking around, trying not to make too many waves.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Videodrone 4/30/2020 5:43:30 PM (No. 396830)
Having looked at the same stuff for 3 years now with a video engineer with experience in effects, editing and animation and pilot - while I can't tell what text information page on the side but none of the numbers move, they are at a 45% bank if they were typical nav or targeting functions at least some of the would be changing - I have my doubts... Besides, I could have duplicated those clips in a day or two - back in the '80's!
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Rumblehog 4/30/2020 6:09:28 PM (No. 396855)
And were these images only seen on an optical camera or radar? If so then they might just be some electronic artifacts.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: DVC 4/30/2020 6:17:25 PM (No. 396865)
#18, seen by pilot's eyes, optical cameras, (I think in visible and infra red, may be wrong about the frequencies of the cameras) and radar from multiple close in fighters, and long distance ground and/or airborne radars.....pretty damned hard to fake all of that at the same time, IMO. That is what has everyone scratching their heads. Fool one radar....sure, very doable, we have aircraft that specialize in that. Fool two radars, near each other, same distance, same design....sure, doable, no doubt, not surprising. Fool a radar AND an optical camera....getting a lot harder but MAYBE. Fool multiple radars of different types, different ranges, different viewing angles, optical and thermal cameras and multiple pilots eyes...... OK, I don't see how it wasn't SOMETHING actually there being sensed by probably four or five different spectra of electromagnetic radiation, with electronic, optical and living sensor systems. Hell of a trick if it is a trick.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: chumley 4/30/2020 6:57:53 PM (No. 396898)
The whole thing for me can be shown with a simple timeline. 1940's. Piston engine propeller driven aircraft, subsonic. Jet engines had been fooled with but not practical. Vacuum tubes for electronics. Computers barely existed and didn't do much. Telephone was by wire. Radio existed but TV was still experimental. 1947. Roswell. 1950's. SR71 goes mach 3+. Bell labs invents fiber optics and transistors. TV invented. Computers still primitive but vastly more capable. Rocketry and satellites about to be introduced. They know. They just aren't telling.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Petronius 4/30/2020 7:10:24 PM (No. 396909)
They come from light years away in incredibly sophisticated spacecraft... to probe our butts.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: kono 4/30/2020 7:12:03 PM (No. 396910)
". . . intelligence communities cannot explain what these objects are. " Cannot explain? Or will not dosclose? There's always the possibility that the video showed experimental craft that can't be tested without the risk of being seen. And every time one is seen, some handwaving is required to get rid of the persistently curious.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Ketchuplover 4/30/2020 8:25:05 PM (No. 396955)
Here's a thought: Perhaps these are among the "signs in the sun, moon, and stars" that Jesus said will happen before His return.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: DVC 5/1/2020 3:27:41 AM (No. 397117)
#20, no technology jumps at all. Smooth, steady increase in capabilities. We had crude germanium diodes, which I used in the early 50s to make a radio. 1" diameter slab of germanium. Later packaged as tiny glass covered diodes, then we noted that they could be biased, with the right changes, turn in to a transistor-- which is an exact analog in germanium of a vacuum tube, so again, not any kind of a new idea, just growth. The more you know about the details of how that stuff was developed, the easier it is to know that there are NO tech jumps from outside sources, just lots of smart folks doing hard research. Hell, Edison invented every kind of battery that could be made with metals, the only thing new now is some conductive polymers making weights lower. Zero new batteries, just fine tuning. We got nada from aliens. A great Hollyweird story, but total baloney.
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