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Hungary prepares to end legal
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Posted By: Ribicon, 4/26/2020 10:47:15 AM

Hungary’s rightwing government looks likely to push through legislation that will end the legal recognition of trans people by defining gender as “biological sex based on primary sex characteristics and chromosomes” and thus making it impossible for people to legally change their gender. Trans people and rights activists say the law, which has been introduced into parliament as attention is focused on the coronavirus pandemic, will increase discrimination and intolerance towards trans people.(Snip) “In Hungary, you need to show your ID to rent a bike, buy a bus pass or to pick up a package at the post office. It basically means coming out as trans

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Draw a distinction between a dangerous mental illness that includes a 41% suicide rate and basic biological fact? Perfectly reasonable.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: JunkYardDog 4/26/2020 10:51:08 AM (No. 392110)
I agree with this. Mentally ill people need treatment, not cosmetic surgery. I feel pity for these poor tortured souls but the fact that surgeons even entertain the insane notions of mentally ill people shows me that even surgeons will do anything for a buck.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: LadyHen 4/26/2020 10:53:09 AM (No. 392116)
Chromosomes don't lie. Mental illness needs treatment not enabling.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: anniebc 4/26/2020 10:55:59 AM (No. 392119)
We can't convince enough people that abortion, the outright murder of babies in the womb, is not about a women's right to choose. Can you imagine trying this in America-telling people they can't change their sex? Praise God for Hungary. May the rest of the world become as sane again.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: DARling 4/26/2020 11:02:26 AM (No. 392128)
No matter what the law is, I will never utter the name, "Caitlyn Jenner." He's Bruce on the Wheaties box who took a weird turn. The Hungarian government is doing the right thing. Too many locations in liberal La La Land, USA want to issue tickets or make arrests for hurting the feelings of so-called transgenders. Saying the emperor is buck-naked is a hate crime these days. You can change your exterior appearance but you can't change your DNA.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: bad-hair 4/26/2020 11:04:49 AM (No. 392131)
All ten of them.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: USAdroit Editor 4/26/2020 11:35:36 AM (No. 392160)
This is the Guardian, so of course a legislative move that puts science above political correctness must be characterized as ‘rightwing.’ We Normals shouldn’t complain: It’s good for a political movement to be associated with reality.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Venturer 4/26/2020 11:36:40 AM (No. 392161)
Used to be these people were in institutions getting treatment, now they are on the streets and demanding we call them by the clothe's they wear and not by the gender they were born with.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Pete on the Coast 4/26/2020 11:38:26 AM (No. 392162)
One of the best things that President Trump has done was to strangle this sick baby in its crib as it related to the military. Obama left behind a policy that would have required the armed services to accommodate and promote this insanity. Trump's actions nullifying these policies at least slowed down our march toward civilizational eclipse.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: DVC 4/26/2020 11:44:19 AM (No. 392174)
Hungary is leading the way to sanity. We should follow.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: TJ54 4/26/2020 11:53:33 AM (No. 392189)
Rightwing government? LOL - I would call it a sane government, something the libtards at the Guardian need to become acquainted with
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Reply 11 - Posted by: hershey 4/26/2020 12:01:38 PM (No. 392199)
Hungary, on the leading edge...good for them...and as for the 'people', if you don't know what you are just stick your hand in your pants to find out...
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Reply 12 - Posted by: stablemoney 4/26/2020 12:23:28 PM (No. 392224)
I have no problem with allowing people to use id's with initials, and leaving the gender off the id. That way name changes are unnecessary. I support providing less information to any database, government office, thief, or attacker. Many people prey on women, so taking the gender off id's could help. Already many women use their initials in phone directories, or do not list at all. In the corporate world, some women have switched to initials to avoid presumptions, not as necessary as before. My own view is to leave people alone. There are a lot of different kinds in the world. I have a homeless person that lives under a bridge near me. He has no plans to work, loves his life, bothers no one. I will leave the judgments to God.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: udanja99 4/26/2020 12:31:38 PM (No. 392233)
#1, yes they will. I had an elderly family member with end stage COPD who fell and broke a hip. A surgeon operated on her and she died a week later. I asked a respiratory therapist friend why a surgeon would operate on anyone whose lungs were so severely compromised and she replied, “Surgeons like to cut.”
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Reply 14 - Posted by: planetgeo 4/26/2020 1:00:22 PM (No. 392270)
Hungary, the country of science.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: bigfatslob 4/26/2020 1:13:01 PM (No. 392284)
A reference to Bruce Jenner is correct just a male on a Wheaties box now a name change and female clothes, he's become Katlin. I challenge that even if he has mutilated himself he's still Bruce the cross dressing senior citizen with a mental problem. Hungary use science and doing the right thing.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: kono 4/26/2020 2:39:15 PM (No. 392347)
I cheer Hungary for acknowledging truth and being willing to base law on it, and regret only that the philosophy/religion of "Progressivism" rejects this truth in their foundational doctrine and will spin this as an oppression of their 'right' to choose their own biology.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Muncsdad 4/26/2020 5:27:59 PM (No. 392468)
We went to Hungary on vacation two years ago. Beautiful country. Safe. Great food. And 100 percent right on politics. Orban is a great leader!
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Peeps 4/26/2020 6:59:56 PM (No. 392526)
This is awesome! Common sense at last! Hope we can get the same in the US and put an end to all the LGBTQwerty harmful agendas and attacks on our kids.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Peeps 4/26/2020 7:03:56 PM (No. 392527)
Forgot to mention...hey, TV and Hollywood script writers...any show or movie you inject LGBTQwhatever into I DON'T WATCH. There is NOT a demand for this other than from the loud mouthed oddballs. God, I hope normalcy comes back. Maybe then I'll think about watching TV and going to movies again.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Maggie2u 4/26/2020 7:58:35 PM (No. 392559)
Poster #19, same here. I refuse to be a participant in the destruction of civilization.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Norway 4/26/2020 7:59:14 PM (No. 392560)
What? Trans people aren't courageous heroes who instantly deserve our applause, accolades, hormones and surgery? They might have mental issues? Oh the bigotry!
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Reply 22 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 4/27/2020 12:22:50 AM (No. 392697)
Didn't Hungary close their borders too ? It's a twofer.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: MickTurn 4/27/2020 8:23:11 AM (No. 392942)
Golly Gee it must be really hard going through life dragging a transmission around on a rope!
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