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Posted By: Pluperfect, 4/7/2020 4:56:14 AM

I’m trying to picture how far the media would turn up the outrage meter if President Trump governed like Lyndon Johnson, and I can’t do it; my imagination isn’t expansive enough. In Great Society: A New History, Amity Shlaes presents a deeply researched, briskly told account of an era of tumult that was promoted and in many cases even funded by the federal government. If you want to be reassured that we of the Trump Era enjoy the privilege of relatively placid times, this is the book to read. Johnson once said, of Martha’s Vineyard, “we ought to blow up that goddamned island.”

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Reply 1 - Posted by: nucsubmariner 4/7/2020 6:33:31 AM (No. 371165)
Paywall.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 4/7/2020 6:46:43 AM (No. 371177)
I know others who share his opinion about Martha’s Vineyard.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Pluperfect 4/7/2020 7:41:24 AM (No. 371228)
There is not a paywall, #1. Perhaps you saw the "invitation" to subscribe. Click the No Thanks button. But, here is the same article from Outline.com. https://outline.com/RWpVMV
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Reply 4 - Posted by: F15 Gork 4/7/2020 7:52:08 AM (No. 371238)
LBJ murdered the better part of 58,000 Americans in Vietnam - may he rot in hell.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: volksford 4/7/2020 9:42:18 AM (No. 371378)
" All The Way With LBJ "....pretty catchy huh ? Unfortunately just a slogan from an administration that fought a war half way and cost fifty thousand lives.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Chuzzles 4/7/2020 10:42:23 AM (No. 371457)
While I share LBJ's opinion of that island when it comes to being a nest of elitists, I still believe that when it comes to destruction in this nation, LBJ inflicted major damage on the black community social structure with his family destroying welfare legislation. We are still seeing and dealing with the aftereffects of his evil legislation. We all know his quote on the signing of that legislation, and it just proves what an ignorant thug, bully and bigot he truly was. He really was the worst of Texas. Now with governor Abbott and Lt. Gov Patrick, we are seeing the best.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Chuzzles 4/7/2020 10:50:32 AM (No. 371468)
With regards to the Vietnam war, while he was indeed CiC, most of the blame should be given to Walter Cronkite for that debacle. Cronkite lied through his teeth nightly on television, something which surprised the General of the VietCong greatly. He said in his autobiography that they were within 6 weeks of surrender, and Cronkite and his lies gave them a morale boost which helped the North win this. The lies LBJ saw nightly had to have influenced his actions, because he was led to believe that the Vietnam war was beyond our reach to win. When it was anything but. Thanks to Cronkite, that victory was stolen from our boys. And thanks to Kerry, they were treated like dirt when they came back home. The book about the Swift Boat guys that came out during the 2004 campaign and exposed Kerry for the world to see talks all about Cronkite and how his lies contributed to that loss. How many know that Kerry's portrait is hanging in the Hanoi Hall of Heroes?? Ironic thing is, that book was written by an honest democrat lawyer named John O'Neill, who happened to be a Swiftie himself. He just could not stand by and let Kerry get away with his own lies.
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