How a Police State is Born
American Thinker,
by
Steve McCann
Original Article
Posted By: Magnante,
4/1/2020 5:09:31 AM
The United States and much of the western world, by utilizing the most draconian of tactics, is plunging many nations into potential economic and societal chaos as they attempt to stem the tide of the Chinese Coronavirus (snip) The nation is choosing to plunge millions of people into depression, heart attacks, suicide and unbelievable distress, though they are not especially vulnerable and will only suffer mild symptoms or none at all.
This is what a police state is like. It is a nation in which the government can issue orders and edicts or convey preferences with no legal authority.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
JonR 4/1/2020 5:31:29 AM (No. 364618)
I truly believe that this over reaction is fueled by the democrats desire to destroy the Trump presidency! They really don’t care if the country is plunged into a Great Depression! Moreover, the police state described in this article is necessary to complete their social engineering and leftist agenda! The suspension and eventually the elimination of the constitution is an objective of communist left!
Friends and neighbors, the republic is in dire straits and President Trump is probably the only person standing in the way of the implementation of a communist police state!
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Flyball Dogs 4/1/2020 5:39:02 AM (No. 364619)
Must Read, please.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
franq 4/1/2020 5:49:53 AM (No. 364623)
More than anything, we need the truth. I pray daily that the Lord will smash the lies and sensationalism, strengthen and direct President Trump and his administration. Who knew something like this could bring our country to a standstill so quickly?
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
WhamDBambam 4/1/2020 6:45:27 AM (No. 364665)
I am certainly willing to go along for a while for the greater good. God help them if this turns out to be a hoax (severity and communicability).
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
chumley 4/1/2020 6:50:01 AM (No. 364672)
I fear this far more than the stupid virus.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Urgent Fury 4/1/2020 7:12:35 AM (No. 364679)
The Deep State is creating the Sheep State.
The Enemedia at first: yay! Crisis! Sell papers! Clicks! Lots of viewers!
Then somebody realized maybe if we jack this up enough and hey look, the market is tanking, we can bring down Bad Orange Man. Wrecked economy? Meh, collateral damage or part of the strategy.
Now, that somebody is building a scared populous willing to rat on their neighbors for going outside. Can Trump stop it? He hasn't yet and we don't have all summer.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
4freedom 4/1/2020 7:18:57 AM (No. 364682)
You can call me crazy but I'd like to see the NSA cough up all the phone calls between Pelosi and Schiff to the Chinese for the last eight months, I'd bet it would be very illuminating.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Rather Read 4/1/2020 7:27:03 AM (No. 364687)
I'm 69 and taking reasonable precautions. I'm not scared a bit. There have been 14 cases in my county and no deaths. I want to go to church again, I want to go to a baseball game, I want to walk on a trail in my local park. I want to go back to work. I'm sick to death of the phrase social distancing even though I do it. But most of all, I am so sick of the media - I hated them before and now I loathe them.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Urgent Fury 4/1/2020 7:49:59 AM (No. 364709)
@6 "scared populace" not populous. Dang it.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
dst4life 4/1/2020 7:59:21 AM (No. 364720)
FTA: "Governments never give up power once attained. They only seek to normalize it and now they have in their toolbox the knowledge that the citizenry will meekly acquiesce to any national emergency being declared an existential crisis which requires government to unconstitutionally impose its will on the people. " Most important sentences in the entire article.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
bigfatslob 4/1/2020 8:03:32 AM (No. 364725)
There's a video going viral of a man walking alone on a street and taken down by police in Italy. It's not pretty that's what a police state is. He could have died from his injuries from police so why worry about a virus, right?
The communist are knocking at our doors and this is part of the hoax/virus. The governess of our state is shutting down all gun shops and going to use state police to enforce it. This is a step she's been wanting to take along with gun confiscation next.
Blame everything on the virus but I'll blame the left and the media.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Bluefindad 4/1/2020 8:04:49 AM (No. 364726)
The best thing that can come of this is the fallacy of taking extreme actions based on extrapolations from computer models. Global Climateers have been trying this for some time. Fortunately, they've been unable to tie computer predictions to any measurable consequences. In this epidemic, we have an example of computer models that can be validated by real results, but are based on unverifiable premises. If we don't know the probability of transmission and the actual infection rate, we cannot accurately predict the results!
Hopefully the public will become more skeptical of public policy as a result of this computer models and that will harden their skepticism of global warming, as well as other hysteria-generating events in the future.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
udanja99 4/1/2020 8:18:39 AM (No. 364742)
Here’s what continues to give me hope that all of this will end and we’ll get our country back to normal - we still have our guns. And we have a president who insists that the gun stores stay open. And we have a president who will order the military to protect us if necessary. And we have a military who loves this president and will obey his orders.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
msjena 4/1/2020 8:23:00 AM (No. 364747)
I am mostly amazed by how passive people are about arrests and fines based on nothing more than a governor's--or mayor's--edict. What law gives a governor the right to break up gatherings of X number or people or shut down funeral services or arrest a pastor for holding a church service? All of these things may be good for the purpose of containing the virus but the authority has to come from law. Have any of them sought authority from their legislatures? Or have they cited any law that gives them this sweeping authority? Do civil liberties and democracy go out the window in a crisis? Apparently.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Strike3 4/1/2020 9:10:13 AM (No. 364789)
The writer is also guilty of stoking the fear. We have little dictators in various liberal spots but their threats are, for the most part, meaningless. Shut down a church forever? Come on. There will be some arrests and some fines awarded but most will be thrown out in court. Most people here in flyover country are doing what we think is proper under the circumstances without any government mandates. Closing restaurants for dining in makes perfect sense but the government needs to speed up the subsidies to keep them from closing for good. We need to do our part and use their take out and delivery service at the same rate we used to dine in. Some of the more idiotic orders have been ignored or retracted, like the closure of Interstate highway rest areas. Power-hungry little Napoleon-wannabes are outing themselves and will pay dearly in upcoming elections.
The main thing to keep your eye on is challenges against the 2nd Amendment. None have been successful and none will be. If you have not purchased firearms before now it is your own fault but the rest of us will cover you in time of need. That's the American way. I can't see my nearest neighbors from my house but we keep an eye on each other daily.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Hermoine 4/1/2020 9:11:32 AM (No. 364791)
These mitigation efforts are crazy. They keep talking about the modeling and the inputs. To get to 100,000 - 240,000 deaths, you would have to have a HUGE spike in deaths per day. Let's just look at it over a 30 day period...to get to 100,000 deaths, you'd have to have 3,333 die DAILY and to get to 240K, you'd have to have 8,000 die daily. Now, spread that out...if you spread it out, you don't have hospitals that are overwhelmed, you also have new treatments coming out and now testing that takes less than 10 minutes. This has GOT to end by the end of April. The numbers are not going to bear this out through April and people are going to demand that end this madness.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
stablemoney 4/1/2020 9:18:48 AM (No. 364800)
Trump was intending for a tax reduction in his second term. With the Care Act, Trump has returned most of the $2.2T to businesses and the people, effectively a tax cut, which is why I think he may have gone along with it. The Governors chimed in with police state tactics, and I hope they are held accountable at the ballot box for it. I also hope Pelosi and the Democrats are held accountable for the pork added to the Care Act, and thrown out of office. Don't assume voters are sheep, and will accept this assumption of power by these boobs, as a reckoning is coming in November 2020, when the left should be removed from office. The media also deserves a confrontation, and so do the owners like AT&T, Comcast, and others. My hope is that the liability suits filed by Nunes and others are successful, and the media, and their corporate sponsors, have to pay huge settlements.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 4/1/2020 9:41:25 AM (No. 364831)
The most compelling statement made by McCann is that the American citizenry succumbed to the msm's hysteria and rolled over quietly without questioning anything. The government now has the knowledge that we Americans are submissive and will cower when told to.
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Let's stop with the Democrats this, communists that...it's politicians of all political stripes that are usurping rights left and right. I understand there are people being pulled over for health checks crossing into Florida, for example. What Communist governor ordered that? If you are entering Texas from Louisiana you are "required" to self-quarantine. Again, what Communist governor ordered that?
#1 is on the right track...except it's the UNIPARTY that is again willing to blow up the nation to regain its power. They're not Commies - they're pure profiteers bought and paid for by special interests for their own profiteering. Trillions are at stake in this latest "crisis" and there is no one letting that go to waste.
And what's saddest is the American public showing what sheep they are, thrilled to be getting a government cheese check. The tough guys talk about guns and freedom...the vast majority think otherwise.It amazes me that government provides reason after reason not to be trusted for anything...yet, HERE is where the government experts have taken us. It's all "settled science" and it will be re-settled tomorrow as necessary.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Catfur27 4/1/2020 9:51:59 AM (No. 364849)
Joseph Goebbels ( Patron Saint of today's media) famously said : "Repeat a Big Lie often enough, and people will believe it". We are seeing that happen right now.
I see the faces of people at the grocery store ...absolute FEAR ...thanks to the media's unending drumbeat.
The Govt and media have decreed that The Constitution does not apply in the event that you MAY catch a cold.
And it is amazing to me that so many Americans readily sacrificed their rights .
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 4/1/2020 10:01:41 AM (No. 364863)
So - - let me get this straight - - - -
We're taking the healthiest, least vulnerable people out of action - - in order to protect the least healthy, least productive people - - who are already out of action.
Is that about right?
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
bighambone 4/1/2020 10:12:29 AM (No. 364878)
If you want to stop the kind of dirty tricks politics that the liberal and leftist Democrats have been using, just never under any condition vote for a Democrat. One of the worse political tactics that the Democrats have used is to vote to send the US military into battle, and then when the going gets tough to abandon them when they are still on the battlefield, the Democrats did that during the Vietnam War and then again in Iraq. That has been my political rule of thumb since I was lucky enough to return from Vietnam in January 1969, in one piece, after spending more than a year in country. Anytime I come in contact with a Democrat politician I just flat tell him or her that he or she is wasting their time with me, because I will never vote for a Democrat period.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Quigley 4/1/2020 10:16:12 AM (No. 364881)
I wonder when the jim acosta-plenties of the world will begin the theme that trump overreacted, that none of this was really necessary, and that trump destroyed the economy for no reason, that he panicked.
If few deaths and few cases emerge, they won’t give him credit for the success.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Paperpuncher 4/1/2020 10:37:17 AM (No. 364903)
Number 8 is the comment of the day! I am 68 and am very pleased that I live in a rural county in fly over country. Our county has 9 known cases and 2 deaths both in nursing homes. Besides #8's wish list, I would add golf and fishing. The state has closed all the golf courses as non-essential and our lake is flooded and I can not launch a boat. Just want to do something outside!!
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
fayebeck 4/1/2020 11:31:31 AM (No. 364981)
Folks we have been preaching to the choir. Having a contest to prove that I'm the smartest conservative in the group if you will. I just am waiting for my check from the really smart people.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
RuckusTom 4/1/2020 11:39:07 AM (No. 364998)
"... when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws."
Atlas Shrugged
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Blue-Z-Anna 4/1/2020 11:42:23 AM (No. 365009)
Long time L-daughters may recall my repeated advice going back......way back....'Get rural !'.
Why be a prepper in the burbs when you could be a 'farmer/rancher' in the woods ?
A $250,00.00 average house can be converted into a whole lotta acres in Deep East Texas.
It's not too late.
Fear only The Lord and dread naught.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
weejun 4/1/2020 11:45:05 AM (No. 365014)
#16 has hit on the crux of the issue. So far, the highest single day death toll was yesterday - March 31 (895). The death total went up by 75% from March 30 (511 to 895). Even if that rate of increase continues, I don't see how we can get to even 100,000 deaths by April 30 (and at one time I believe Fauci said we could see up to 200,000 deaths by April 30). As #16 states, the daily death toll would have to be 7-8,000 to do that, and it is hard to see from the data (plus the experiences in other countries) that we could get there in 30 days. In essence, it requires the coronavirus "season" to be extended probably into July to get to those numbers. Maybe this virus can do that, but experience says that warm/not weather will dampen its transmission and kill it out. The next two weeks should be very revealing.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 4/1/2020 11:58:31 AM (No. 365035)
Why wasn't China held accountable for this release? This is more than bumbling Communist stupidity, this could be considered an act of war. How will the world react next time when China releases something far deadlier and using their New Silk Road (read: Hammer & Sickle) initiative can spread it far and wide?
If Richard Nixon had never opened the "Bamboo Curtain" we wouldn't have this problem.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
marbles 4/1/2020 12:02:22 PM (No. 365044)
Frightening, disconcerting, altogether stressful. Re #15 and the 2nd amendment. Trump supports, backs it and defends it. "They" , the dems and progs know that the "deplorables" are armed and ready for whatever evil comes their way. So, while they are behaving themselves , they dont blindly accept. Thats what the unarmed dems do.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
Chuzzles 4/1/2020 12:36:13 PM (No. 365087)
If Trump doesn't override those 'experts' in a couple weeks after seeing with his own eyes that the doomsday is not happening, this could legitimately be all put on his scorecard. He says that 'people cannot be replaced' yet his own experts he follows are causing death by the lists in the article, simply because the media has convinced them that they are doomed by losing their job.
How are you going to fix that Mr. President? because when folks figure it out, the media will start using those numbers to beat him down with, after the virus cudgel no longer works. Medical experts should never be trusted, not when their so-called models destroy an economy, and people's lives for real.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
Timber Queen 4/1/2020 1:24:12 PM (No. 365155)
I agree this overblown reaction to The Virus is the illegitimate child of the Uniparty and Deep Staters. A last ditch effort to "Get Trump!" It was their Katrina Moment to discredit a supposedly "conservative" presidency. It worked with "W" because his middle initial stood for "Wuss" and he was really just another Uniparty apparatchik that was in on the scam; a way to erode our freedoms with our consent. The Patriot Act did more to harm our freedoms and way of life than The Virus and the Uniparty governors are imposing. Its been happening for 20 years. TSA anyone?
The big difference this go-around is President Donald J. Trump. He saw the trap and our VSG is using this crisis, the Uniparty's favorite tactic, against them to implement the MAGA agenda under their very eyes and noses. He is harnessing private industry, cutting red tape and throwing regulations aside. He is holding federal bureaucracies accountable for results. He is refusing to "nationalize" and allowing the individual states, through their governors, to address the crisis as they see fit for their people. Federalism in action. If people don't like the actions of their governor or state legislatures they can make their voices heard in November.
This is our Battle of the Bulge, facing a depleted and corrupt regime mounting a final big push that is suicidal in nature. I'm not minimizing the danger our Republic now faces. I am instead confident that Goodness is finally engaging Evil and will prevail. God is at work in the world...and Donald J. Trump is His builder.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
doctorfixit 4/1/2020 3:37:23 PM (No. 365267)
Never let a good crisis you manufactured go to waste when you're implementing totalitarian socialism
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
cor-vet 4/1/2020 4:14:38 PM (No. 365316)
Hello from the newest police state in South Louisiana. There weren't too many people out and about during the day, and a few at night. Then by the power invested in him by our democrat governor, Adolph Bel Edwards
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
cor-vet 4/1/2020 4:21:49 PM (No. 365323)
Hit post by accident. Our sheriff has now basically imposed Marshall law on the Parish. We're under curfew from 9:00pm until 5:am, vehicular and on foot. We've had only a couple of deaths and a handful of cases, but when you get the power, I guess you have to use it. There are getting to be too many tin-pot dictators in this country and for anyone that thinks that when the SHTF, the local law enforcement will be on our side, I have a high rise bridge in Arizona I'll sell cheap. They probably won't come to help if your threatened or you call for help, but venture out and see how fast they will respond.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
red1066 4/1/2020 5:12:00 PM (No. 365375)
Deep state is dug in deep at the CDC, and directing the country into a Socialist dream.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
Talega 4/1/2020 5:26:52 PM (No. 365387)
Mark my words. At some point in April, May, or June it will be revealed that New York has plenty of respirators, New Orleans was irrresponsible for Mardi Gras and hospitals have plenty of beds, Washington DC has plenty of masks, Michigan has plenty of doses of hydrocloriquine but denied trial usage, Connecticutt and New Jersey lied about adequate equipment, etc. Just like plenty of empty buses were available for evacuation after Katrina under Nagen, plenty of water and provisions were delivered but stored in warehouses for Puerto Rico, and before the Clintons stole millions in aid, Haiti was recovering after the hurricane. And what do all these cities and states have in common? A coordinated effort by liberal politicians to deliberately crashed the economy.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
vinegrower 4/1/2020 5:44:49 PM (No. 365410)
I am 68 yrs old and I am dumbfounded at how quickly we Americans became a nation of sheep. I am not frightened of the virus but I am now completely afraid of how easy we have backed down from our govt. What really scares me the most? The terrorists around the world are now completely surprised and energized by how easily this nation of snowflakes will acquiesce. We gave up way too many freedoms after 9/11 and we have gotten so used it that we just easily hand over a few more on a continual basis. Such a shame.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
franq 4/1/2020 5:50:49 PM (No. 365415)
We are being played, big time. My impression is that this past winter, and the entire spring, has been a very mild one for colds and flu. Until the WooHoo Flu. The media is still pulling everyone's chain. Big Brother will take care of you. Take out a $13,000+ loan in your name and send you $1200 to spend. Yay!
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 4/1/2020 6:25:06 PM (No. 365437)
The government is using the virus as smoke and mirrors to take over the economy while we sleep and forced to stay home. They just took equity shares in airlines. Why? They just took over the financial industry and no body even notices. They are spending money like drunken Marxists on spring break. They set it up to borrow money at zero interest. How nice. Note they can refinance all $25 trillion in debt that has interest on it. Zero interest means people will lose jobs. Banks will reap huge profits on loan points. Meanwhile the rest of the country is unemployed defaulting on credit cards and mortgages and going out of their minds.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
or gate 4/1/2020 6:55:29 PM (No. 365454)
I don think the left is hurting our President.
Maybe at first they thought Trump would say get tough America and use that against President Trump.
As far as going for a walk. You are not walking for exercise you are going to get groceries.
Trump knows why they are milking the virus
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 4/1/2020 8:23:12 PM (No. 365510)
Well put, #32. Trusting that TK and TQ remain in good health, too?
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