4-year-old Colorado boy dies from flu after
mom took Facebook anti-vax group tips

A very tragic death. No one is going to be more severe than the mother will be with herself. Perhaps all of us can have some compassion. This family and marriage may not survive this tragedy.

Getting an immunization does NOT mean you won't still get whatever it is. Drs also push a lot of useless medications because they get money to do so. All any parent can do is what they think is best for their child. I would not attempt to second guess this poor mother.

Has the mother been arrested and child protection services called?

The article itself says "influenza...caused anywhere from 12,000 to 30,000 deaths in the US between Oct. 1 and Feb. 1" and somehow this 1 death was caused by an anti vax group? It's silly fake news designed to keep the sheep from asking questions.

Just what in the hell is wrong with vaccinations? Sometimes libertarians just choose to be fools. Other times they seem like normal people.

I never see stories about deaths that happened even when they took the vaccine. There are are few of those stories out there too.

It's the new demonrat abortion rule. You can kill kids after they're born with no consequence.

The movie vaxxed links autism to vaccines. This of course is has the medical and pharmaceutical industry going berserk. Maybe it doesn't but how can they be so sure when they don't have an explanation for the dramatic rise in autism. We had far fewer vaccines in the sixties and I never even heard of autism till the 90s. Their extreme reaction has a very same feel as Those from the global warming fanatics. When there is many billions of dollars to be made science protocol and decorum go out the window. If you ask simple questions, they will Label You an irrational Nut Job.

the idea that this death would have been prevented by having a vaccination is guesswork at best. What was this child's health like prior to infection? What would be the comment if the child died from complications from the vaccine? Vaccines only guarantee you can blame someone else for any complications.

This is not so much about vaccinations or Tamiflu as it is about a generation of mothers who proscribe treatment for their kids through essential oils and think they know more than pediatricians. I've listened to my dil and her friends talk about which oils to give for whatever ailments their kids have. It's sickening and so presumptuous since none of them are in the medical field.

#6,#9- Aside from deaths due to flu vaccines, there is an excruciatingly painful side-effect called polymyalgia rheumatica (PMR) that can occur in some individuals can last for a year or longer, go into remission, and recur unexpectedly. #8- Although there may be medical and/or pharmaceutical reasons for autism, perhaps today’s foods, environment, and/or lifestyles might be influences or causes. Some households make it a point to eat healthy, but others do not; with today’s processing of foods, including usage of preservatives and, fertilizers where applicable, there may be some impact on the human body.

I bet they were all on a vegan diet and gluten free and only drank almond milk. The boys probably never had a haircut since they were born and more than likely had names that were sex neutral. Jean Adrian Lyndsay etc.

Could the seizure have caused the little boy’s death? We may never know, but certainly need to pray for this family’s comfort and healing, for God’s Glory.

Original poster... Tamiflu isn't that effective. You should do some reading about it. It's purported effectiveness has been controversial for years. If the death was completely preventable, why do so many people die of flu every year.

Maybe this tragic death will shine the spotlight on Tamiflu again. Because the local news reported the story about the mother, it doesn't necessarily mean it is an accurate report. This link goes to WebMD from 2012 in a discussion about what Tamiflu does....... it isn't a cure for the any flu :https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20121114/does-tamiflu-work-questions-continue#1

Tamiflu only reduces the duration of flu symptoms by a day or less. Elderberry has been shown to be more effective than that in at least one study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15080016

Brilliant! I’m coming here for my healthcare from now on. What the world needs now is more anecdotal tales of conspiracy , rumors from some internet hoaxer or delusional true-believer, peddlers of essential oils and elderberry juice, not controlled studies, scientific evidence, and medical expertise. Poor, poor gullible mama, falling for utter nonsense unquestioningly, and not, when the hoodoo stuff went poorly, hastening to emergency care, but that would mean caving to evil, greedy doctors and evil, greedy big Pharma, and so many other bogeymen obviously out to get them. It is appalling how stupid and willingly snookered people can be. And how reluctant to find out the truth. It has been common knowledge for years that the vaccine-autism link was a hoax, and even the hoaxer has admitted as much, but no, bad stuff happens, so somebody obviously is out to gitcha. There is “more” autism, dear people, because it’s now more readily recognized and treated as such, rather than lumped in with many other neurological and behavioral problems found in children as “slow,” “retarded”, “minimal brain disfunction,” “spoiled,”or many other trashcan diagnoses meant to say merely that “that kid ain’t right.” T’was ever thus, only now we can help those kids, beset by known genetic anomaly. Sad case. Influenza is a serious disease (or family of them.). It can still kill, especially the young and the elderly. Vaccines do help, but even so, they aren’t perfect. But to reject modern medical advances in favor of unfounded conspiracy rumor, snake-oil nostrums and silly old-wives-tales, long proven false, is so very, very wrong. And people, even here among the l-dot enlightened, are still peddling that idiocy. Just stop it!

Lots of callousness here... It is hard when you are overwhelmed with medical stress and inundated with health information to know what the right path is. That is why it is so important to have doctors you really trust and be willing to take their advice. For the chronically ill, it is an agonizing choice between trying something natural and possibly slowly poisoning oneself with long term drugs. I think in this age of information overload, people lose sight of the difference between acute and chronic illnesses when deciding on treatment. Having access to pharmaceutical research and people’s experiences so readily online is a mixed bag. Everyone here has probably asked the highly esteemed Dr. Google for medical advice, what this woman did was not much different.

Seizures are indicative of a fever 103+ which is out of control. This requires immediate hospitalization to deal with the runaway fever , not so much the flu which caused it. I get flu shots for one reason only. As a child in the 1960's my Grandmother took me for a walk in a Boston cemetery where her husband was buried. While there,she showed me the rows and rows of headstones of the victims of the Spanish Influenza which swept the U.S. and Europe after WWI. The number of children's graves in particular, was heartbreaking. Needless to say, it made quite an impression and so, I get the shots to avoid passing on a treatable virus to others.

The mother's hesitation to give her child Tamiflu may not have been all that contrary to medical opinion. I found this on the St. Louis Children's Hospital site: "...we have to consider whether or not a child is better off by simply managing his or her symptoms with fever reducers, rest, and plenty of fluids rather than introducing the potential for nausea, diarrhea or vomiting. Minor side effects from Tamiflu are common, but there are also rare but more serious side effects to consider when deciding to treat." It goes on to say “Tamiflu is not routinely given to prevent a person from getting the flu,” says Dr. Sterkel. “In some cases, if a child with flu-like symptoms lives in the same household as an adult or child at high risk for influenza complications, a physician may prescribe Tamiflu. However, the CDC does not recommend widespread use of antiviral medications for prevention because of the potential for antiviral resistant viruses to emerge." https://www.stlouischildrens.org/health-resources/pulse/tamiflu-and-children-clearing-confusion So if she had consulted another MD, she may well have been advised to just treat the symptoms, like she was trying to do. I think the media are piling on this mother because she was on an anti-VAX site, even though vaccines have nothing to do with this incident.

There are no winners here. However, why bother going to the doctor if you aren't going to listen ? Not a fan of essential oils or home cures.