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Posted By: Moritz55, 1/4/2020 12:30:59 PM

As the House and Senate continue their struggle over the coming Senate impeachment trial of President Trump, a federal judge in Washington issued an opinion that was largely lost in the crush of New Year’s stories. The opinion could loom large in the trial, however, and one line in particular may be repeated like a mantra by the Trump defense team: “The House clearly has no intention of pursuing” the witness.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: aasilver 1/4/2020 1:03:25 PM (No. 278688)
Turley and Deshowitz both focus on the constitutionality of the proceedings and both find the proceedings faulty. Both are Liberal Democrats. Is there a message there?
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Reply 2 - Posted by: planetgeo 1/4/2020 1:24:11 PM (No. 278713)
Where are the other "reasonable classic liberals" like Turley? Is he like the Last of the Mohicans? Should we put him in a protected exhibit somewhere so people can see what a genuine honorable liberal looked and sounded like. Where's National Geographic on this and why aren't they doing a 6-part series on the "Vanishing Species of Classic Liberals? Oh wait, it's because NatGeo has gone full ecofreak-communist too. Never mind.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Rumblehog 1/4/2020 1:26:39 PM (No. 278715)
The situation on Impeachment is like the person who only half bakes a cake for a party, and decides to finish it when over at the host's house... only problem being that the host doesn't have an oven. Nasty Nancy is expecting the Senate to do the work the House was supposed to do, and that ain't gonna happen. Nasty Pelosi is political roadkill. Steny Hoyer is licking his chops for the Speakership with its private jet perks.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: TJ54 1/4/2020 1:28:58 PM (No. 278716)
When the Dems have lost Turley and Dershowitz, they have nothing. The Dems only have the lying, evil, sack of manure media on their side.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Starboard_side 1/4/2020 1:49:15 PM (No. 278738)
More and more it becomes evident the Democrats rushed to judgement, and were sold another false bill of goods from Rep. Bull Schiff. They also owe the Republicans their 1 day of calling witnesses, per the House Rules. I realize Nadler stated there was not specific date they needed to allow this witness calling, but sure would seem like they should be required BEFORE they can issue the actual articles to the Senate. Otherwise, wouldn't they ALL have violated House Rules?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: lakerman1 1/4/2020 2:12:20 PM (No. 278758)
In the Lil Abner comic strip, back in the 1940s, there was a charscter named Joe Blfsxk. Joe had a rain cloud over his head, no matter how sunny the day was. The dimocrats are trying to put such a cloud over DJTs head, by using the impeachment process. Nothing more is involved.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: montwoodcliff 1/4/2020 2:31:11 PM (No. 278771)
Turley may be a great legal scholar, but when it comes to his stating that Trump could be impeached on his abuse of power and obstruction of whatever, I think he's full of crap. And when it comes to Ukraine not getting the money, whose money is it in the first place? If you are to borrow money, or be given money, it always comes with strings attached. It's given with a specific purpose (read the loan terms!). And Turley says that the Dems didn't call the witnesses. Do you have to guess why? Lawyers and prosecutors never ask a question to which they don't know the answer. The Democrats knew that Bolton et al. were not going to give them what they wanted to hear! It's starting to look like this impeachment stuff is over.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Enoch Powell 1/4/2020 2:31:22 PM (No. 278772)
I was asked by some kid yesterday whether I'd like to contribute to the ACLU. I told him, yes, if the ACLU were defending Nazis marching in Skokie... yea, sure, I'm a Nazi... but free speech is the bestest thing about our country. Sorry. I told him my reason for not contributing... he laughed. They get it, most of them.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: weirdone 1/4/2020 2:33:18 PM (No. 278774)
Pelosi has forgotten Alinsky's 7th rule, "A tactic that drags on to long becomes a drag;"
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Reply 10 - Posted by: montwoodcliff 1/4/2020 2:35:41 PM (No. 278776)
BTW No. 6. I read Lil Abner for many years. The character is spelled Joe Btfsplk. Your description of him is correct. The dark cloud of bad luck was always over his head. Have you ever seen a happy liberal?
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Enoch Powell 1/4/2020 2:38:18 PM (No. 278777)
Turley and Dershowitz should be given medals.Especially D. He is fantastic. A liberal who really respects our system. I actually grieve for him. He has, at his age, taken the right course. Tribe is obviously a political whore. Amazing. I hear nothing much about Warren. HLS got taken to the cleaners. Sad sad.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: ToryWhite 1/4/2020 2:48:35 PM (No. 278784)
Turley's a lot like Pelosi. He's saying, like a good lib Dem lawyer, that of course Pres Trump would've been properly impeached, if the Dems had only taken the time to properly do it. Whereas, Pelosi is now saying, of course Pres Trump will be impeached, if the Senate only follows, lockstep, in our footsteps to do it. Both are dead-on wrong. And both look similarly stupid (gee, can both politicians and lawyers look almost identically stupid? hint: LOL).
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Reply 13 - Posted by: davew 1/4/2020 3:28:50 PM (No. 278805)
For all his smarts, Turley, like a lot of well meaning liberals, is unable or unwilling to accept the obvious. The Democrats know there is no evidence of any wrong doing or any impeachable offense. This has all been a political charade to try to take down Trump by any means necessary and the Democrats are playing the country for the same fools they did with the Russia Hoax, Kavanaugh hoax, Mueller report hoax, and Horrowitz whitewash. The entrenched bureaucracy and liberal MSM don't care about Turley's astute legal arguments or other niceties, they only care about covering up their very real crimes and protecting their power. The rest is just noise.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: stablemoney 1/4/2020 3:42:13 PM (No. 278815)
Two can play impeachment games. Democrats can expect a return in their faces.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Venturer 1/4/2020 3:53:04 PM (No. 278823)
No.3 I doubt Hoyer would be elected to take Pelosi's spot if she left He never had an original thought in his long long long career on the Government teat. He spends his time brown nosing Nasty. The jet doesn't mean much to him he lives 40 miles outside Washington DC in Maryland, where he keeps getting elected by his PG County peeps.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: doublesharp 1/4/2020 3:56:10 PM (No. 278827)
GOP play rough to win... bwahaha. That's a good one. PDJT is basically on his own.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 1/4/2020 4:00:28 PM (No. 278832)
Turley makes 2 assumptions without basis. First that the courts will force testimony when there is no evidence of any wrongdoing to justify it. Second, that these people have any evidence to give of wrongdoing. The dems have had numerous people to testify, promising bombshell revelations. NONE, I repeat NONE of them has given ANY evidence of wrongdoing. In fact, many have verified Trump's right to act as he did. Them not liking it carries ZERO weight. Turley is still searching for a pony in the pile of dem manure.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: bad-hair 1/4/2020 6:20:24 PM (No. 278902)
I keep hearing words like impasse and struggle as if the house has something to struggle over. Present your articles or shut up. No impasse until then.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Strike3 1/4/2020 6:38:03 PM (No. 278915)
But wait, wait. Trump just committed a war crime by killing an enemy. It's a good thing he didn't take a selfie with the pieces of the corpse, and probably would have if he could find any, so let the democrats re-open their endless investigation. Thanks, #10, that's a great trivia question for when we run out of stumpers in the "difficult" round.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: MDConservative 1/4/2020 9:29:19 PM (No. 279008)
FTA: "...the House refused to wait just a couple months to build a much stronger case to remove Trump." A couple extra months would move this mess into primary season. No one wants to be caught away from home and not campaigning, especially those in swing districts. And, there's this sticky notion that nobody wanted to actually see a trial - the bloody shirt of "impeached" would serve the purpose in an election year. The trial notion took a big hit with the exposure of the Biden and Kerry families on the take in Ukraine, and who knows who else. The UNIPARTY can't deal with exposure like this, especially if the corruption seeps into the public's view. What's killing them is PDT's growing popularity, and the disregard for all this skullduggery. Watch for more flying kitchen sinks as primary season comes, the convention, and a "third party" candidate announces going into November.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: tom7 1/5/2020 7:10:43 AM (No. 279174)
Professor Turley again demonstrates his considerable skill at talking in circles.
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