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The Senate and Impeachment Dynamic…

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Posted By: earlybird, 12/6/2019 12:31:57 PM

As the House impeachment of President Donald Trump becomes more of a forgone political conclusion it’s worth considering what terms and conditions Senate Leader Mitch McConnell will extract in order to preserve a Trump Presidency.Most political pundits will not correctly outline the status of the possibilities, because most political pundits are willfully blind to the structure of the McConnell Senate. First, McConnell doesn’t care about holding a majority position in the Senate. Whether he is a majority leader or a minority leader doesn’t matter to McConnell. In fact McConnell’s political skill-set does better in the minority than the majority.


This will alternately fascinate and appall you. Politics isn’t pretty.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: ilovedogs 12/6/2019 12:34:37 PM (No. 254606)
This explains well why I do not trust the Senate to handle the impeachment correctly
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Reply 2 - Posted by: ho72 12/6/2019 12:39:07 PM (No. 254613)
McConnell is but one viper in a nest full.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: MFM 12/6/2019 12:48:01 PM (No. 254624)
McConnell, Sasse and Cornyn et al would go up in flames literally on election day..I have no doubt they will extract some type of deal but to outwardly support impeachment?? No way
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici 12/6/2019 1:00:12 PM (No. 254638)
While there is merit to this analysis, I think, and pray, that Mitch McConnell understands that if the Senate removes President Trump from office, the United States will become ungovernable. A large percentage of the population will not believe in the legitimacy of the the government.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Proud Texan 12/6/2019 1:11:01 PM (No. 254655)
Got a call from Cornyn's campaign asking for money. I not so, politely informed them that Cornyn's future rest solely on how the the impeachment trial works out. I don't trust the GOPe as far as I can throw them. They couldn't care less about their constituents.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 12/6/2019 1:12:02 PM (No. 254657)
If McConnell were to hang us out to dry, the pubbie party will die before the dim party does. As another commenter points out, our federal government would too die, and the societal chaos that the left has been pushing for would ensue as the prelude to the new world order. Difficult to believe that Turtle would kill America just so he can go back and operate within his comfort zone. There would be too many people looking for him.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: chance_232 12/6/2019 1:18:11 PM (No. 254662)
Does anyone doubt that when Schumer becomes Majority leader that he won't scrap the fillibuster?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: MDConservative 12/6/2019 1:28:01 PM (No. 254677)
FTA: "...with a Senate impeachment trial coming up, it’s not the 2020 campaign to hold a majority in the senate that matters to Mitch McConnell. If McConnell can rid himself of Tom Donohue’s nemesis, President Trump, and simultaneously return to his preferred and more lucrative position as minority leader, he would be quite happy." I believe this is incorrect. The GOPe will fight to keep a Senate majority having sold out the House in '18 to get to where we are now with "impeachment". Those judicial appointments, especially those that may be upcoming over the next four years, are too important to forfeit. Done right, they will be historic, and maintain the GOPe in power far into the future. The GOPe is bigger than Mitch. Getting rid of PDT is better accomplished away from the Capitol, keeping every GOPe hand clean. Impeachment was a bad idea predicated on PDT significantly losing support. It hasn't happened. (I anticipate a House censure.) So next will come a "name" challenger to foul primary season, not unlike Pat Buchanan in '92. If, as likely, PDT survives that onslaught and a rancorous convention there will be a "conservative" third party campaign, featuring another "name", like Ross Perot in '92, with PDT the central issue.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: lakerman1 12/6/2019 1:35:41 PM (No. 254689)
This article made my brain ache. When Dollar Bill Clinton was impeachment - the first elected president to suffer that - Trent Lott and Rick Santorum sold out the House republicans by agreeing to trial rules in the Senate (approved 100-0) which gave the prosecutor just one day to present a summary of the case, instead of calling witnesses. That allowed the Dimocrat senators, including the cowardly lio0n of the Senate, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, to vote against removal. I would hope, this time, to see a full array of witnesses, including the Bidens, on the stand.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: HotRod 12/6/2019 1:42:30 PM (No. 254704)
I think there is a different dynamic in play now. After what the democrats have done in the House, I don't think McConnel can count on the juice he had as minority in previous years. He'd better keep the majority or he will be steamrolled by the democrats.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: DVC 12/6/2019 2:56:33 PM (No. 254756)
We can hope that either Donahue or McConnell, preferrably BOTH step in front of a bus accidentally.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: john56 12/6/2019 4:17:53 PM (No. 254830)
I actually TRUST Harry Reid and Chuckie Schumer. I trust them -- and most, if not all elected Democrats -- to play dirty, lie, block, and do every evil thing they can. I don't trust Mitch McConnell. He's always seems to me as the guy who will slap you on the back, tell you he's on your side, and wants you to succeed. And once he's left, you find that while he was slapping you on the back, he was planting the knife there as well.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Salt5792 12/6/2019 7:34:06 PM (No. 254969)
Any GOP senator who votes for impeachment will live to regret it.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Trigger2 12/7/2019 1:22:51 AM (No. 255188)
If Piglousi's and Shiff for Brains impeachment goes to the Senate, you can bet your last dollar the drive-by media won't broadcast it. Or if they do, it'll be a delayed broadcast so they can bleep out any dirty laundry against the corrupt demonrat party.
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