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Fraud in Higher Education

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Posted By: M2, 12/4/2019 7:08:44 AM

This year's education scandal saw parents shelling out megabucks to gain college admittance for their children. Federal prosecutors have charged more than 50 people with participating in a scheme to get their children into colleges by cheating on entrance exams or bribing athletic coaches. They paid William Singer, a college-prep professional, more than $25 million to bribe coaches and university administrators and to change test scores on college admittance exams such as the SAT and ACT. As disgusting as this grossly dishonest behavior is, it is only the tiny tip of fraud in higher education.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: chance_232 12/4/2019 7:51:23 AM (No. 252241)
Ive been hearing for years that the first 2 years of college is basically remedial high school. Which may explain the college education requirement for just about every job that isnt driving a hammer or paint brush. Its because the high schools are graduating barely functioning young adults. It amazes me that one can graduate after12 years and still be an idiot. Then there is Ocasio Cortez. A degree in economics that qualified her to be a bartender.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: John C 12/4/2019 8:09:35 AM (No. 252261)
Common Core is still followed blindly by state after state. Disbanding the Dept. of Education would be a good start.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: paral04 12/4/2019 8:22:59 AM (No. 252275)
The real crime is the myth that everyone needs to go to college. It is a question of supply and demand. Train young people earlier for a career and take out the politically tainted curricula in the lower levels and teach them history and politcal science in grammar school. We don't need to know about gays in Kindergarten or how to put on a condom. They can learn that later if need be.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Clinger 12/4/2019 8:29:51 AM (No. 252281)
And public education is one thing I hear people cite as an example of something government does well. Not only do we graduate dunces they don't know they are dunces. Worse yet these dunces think they know more than older people who were educated when education meant something and on top of that acquired life lessons. Hence we get the Gretas and of the world.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Old Army Vet 12/4/2019 8:34:16 AM (No. 252283)
Many years ago I read a book dealing with the NEA. I am sorry that I don't remember the title, however, it was clearly stated that the goal of the NEA was and is to control the political system through the education system. So far I see that the left is being somewhat successful. Children are being indoctrinated by the government schools. My Daughter homeschooled all three of her children. What we now have are three well educated, well read, productive citizens that know what is going on. Thinkers that don't just accept what is thrown at them. They find out what is going on and are capable of making a decision based on all of the facts, not just what they see or hear in the media, print or broadcast. I'm proud of them and my Daughter for seeing it through and making them ready for life.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: lakerman1 12/4/2019 8:47:32 AM (No. 252295)
My first post was interrupted by an ad about women's clothes. That kind of interruption is becoming as annoying as those damnable telephone calls offering car warranties and lowering my interest rate on my credit cards. That said, allow me to speak as a retired professor, on the subject of grade inflation. The viet nam war/ military draft was the beginning. What kind of inhumane professor would want to give a bad grade, causing a student to lose his draft deferment, and go to fight a bad war? Selective Service put enormous pressure on schools, expecting them to evaluate cannon fodder. The federal student loan program, begun under the Nixon presidency, put large numbers of unqualified students in college. Professors felt pressure by administrators to keep those students from flunking out. Pell grants also played a part. Student evaluations became popular beginning in the 1970s. And the students weaponized those evaluations, being extremely critical of professors who maintained normal grading standards - a bell curve, if you will. (One professor Davis at my university became labeld D minus Davis by the students.) A young professor, starting his or her teaching career could be denied tenure and promotion with bad student evaluations. When I applied for promotion to full professor, I had to include five years of student evaluations. I had had two students rate me below average during that time span, and I had to sort of apologize for that. Finally, affirmative action played a big part of grade inflation. If I had an affirmative action admit in class, there was enormous pressure to pass that student no matter what, and that, in turn, boosted the grades of white students. And the affirmative action students were taught how to pressure the professor. Even at the doctoral level. My lecture is over. As Kamala Sutra would say, the truth is before you.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: JackBurton 12/4/2019 8:58:23 AM (No. 252304)
You want fraud? How about gerrymandering 'adversity' and 'diversity' into valid criteria along side grades and intelligence tests as requirements for college admission? And paying millions to come up with enough double talk to make that seem useful. How about dumbing down the SAT with the same junk? How about teaching hatred of this country and its people? Fraud.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: BarryNo 12/4/2019 8:59:13 AM (No. 252306)
Uneducated people can't make educated decisions, and become victims. They are ripe to be controlled, manipulated into following all sorts of truly disasterous policies. They give up their freedom. Khrushchev said to Kennedy, "We will BURY you." And those plans are still in operation, even if the Soviet Union is dust. Why? Because it is the philosophy of control, their agents taught our education system. they aimed at Science. They aimed at Law, they aimed at Religion. They took aim at those areas that had the greatest influence on Freedom, and seduced the educators with the promise of power. And those educators only promoted to follow them, only those who would not outshine them, yet still follow the path of greed and power. Thus education was diminished and warped to what we have today. If we want to save Ameica, first we must save the children from the people we have foolishly left in charge of education. There are lots of good teachers out there. But they are restrained and limited by those politicians within their ranks who are in positions of authority. We have to clean house in far more areas, than politics.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: montwoodcliff 12/4/2019 9:03:06 AM (No. 252310)
In addition to No.6, I would add that Colleges and banks make a bundle on the interest on student loan money. The college may as well be a bank. There are those who do repay their loans. It’s cruel what they do to these kids and parents by charging exorbitant tuition. Then they give them courses in race and feminism so that they can go out and become activists. I will also submit that many of these state universities are merely an extension of high school for a majority of students. After reading this article, one gets to understand the stupid people on those man on the street interviews conducted first by Jay Leno and now Jesse Waters.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: DVC 12/4/2019 9:05:45 AM (No. 252315)
Like Lake Wobegone, colleges have devolved into places where "all the children are above average". FTA: "They found that 45% of 2,300 students at 24 colleges showed no significant improvement in "critical thinking, complex reasoning and writing by the end of their sophomore years." If these "students" (and even using the term is a fraud) were taught actual critical complex reasoning, they would immediately see that the lefts indoctrination was garbage and come out of colleges as conservatives. But, then again, if the people who have jobs as 'professors' (frauds, too) were actually able to use complex, critical thinking, they wouldn't be leftists, either. And how in hell can someone incapable of complex, critical reasoning possibly TEACH it? I took an engineering path course of study starting in the late 60s, and finished my grad school work in the middle 70s, so I got onto the tail end of "when colleges actually taught something useful". But even then, you could take a course of study which was mostly smoke and mirrors. THIS is how the country is destroyed from within, by a lack of actually educated people to run it, to vote and to make everything work.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: MDConservative 12/4/2019 9:37:35 AM (No. 252367)
Higher education sells a "brand" and cache - the difference between Chanel #5 and Dollar Store's toilet water. They both smell nice...for awhile.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: FredLuff 12/4/2019 10:07:22 AM (No. 252412)
When I was going to college in the mid-seventies, teachers used to post grades outside their classrooms (albeit without names). I noticed that there were very few grades under a "B", even for the difficult advanced math classes. Feeling that this made all of our grades rather meaningless (unless you received a "D" or "F" of course), I complained in person to the dean of the California state college I was attending. The condescending reply I received was well, not to worry, because at some point the job market will sort it all out. I was aghast for all the reasons the reader can easily come up with. I can only assume that what was true then is only more so today.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: msts 12/4/2019 10:07:51 AM (No. 252413)
The problem goes deep. Imagine if you will a twelve year old kid. He/she cannot read. That is a can/cannot, absolute statement. At what point does that kid realize he/she can't read and knows its wrong. When that kid does nothing we blame everyone. But at some point, its the kid.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Strike3 12/4/2019 10:11:17 AM (No. 252420)
Any place where there is an exclusive product, not enough seats and massive profits invites fraud and many succumb to it. Our system of higher education needs rebuilt from the ground up or maybe we should begin with the Publik Skool System first. The descriptive word here is Failure and the nation's academics. heartily backed by the government, are responsible for it.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: your other brother 12/4/2019 11:44:04 AM (No. 252539)
Fake credentials for a fake education - sounds like a fair deal to me and if it is not who is the victim? As the saying goes you cannot cheat an honest man and here we see scamming parents meeting scamming colleges. They deserve each other.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: your other brother 12/4/2019 12:00:46 PM (No. 252567)
What business other than an elite college or university that was turning away 95% of its paying customers would neither expand nor open new locations? And what exactly is their product? Education? There is not an ioata of empirical evidence that you will learn any more physics or economics or history at Harvard after four years of an undergraduate education than you would at a state school with a compass point in its name, assuming you apply yourself of course. No what Harvard offers that Western Nebraska College of Mines and Sheep does not is the ultimate affirmation that you are special. Not just special but the specialist person anywhere ever and if anyone doubts it you can show them this piece of paper we give you after four years.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Strike3 12/4/2019 1:05:09 PM (No. 252626)
#16's comments are spot on. Schools like Harvard continuously espouse their superiority over other schools and the elites in the business world help them propagate this myth by hiring only graduates of the elite schools. The average graduate of any school retains approximately 17% of what the school has taught him and many absorb far less. The difference is that the elites think they can stop learning after graduation because they are "special." That's why we have so many unyielding idiots in the business world and most inovation comes not from a superior education but from imagination and superior talent. A perfect example is IBM who only hired "the creme of the crop" but were subsequently trampled from the early 1980s onward by those who may or may not have had a four year degree.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Foghorn 12/4/2019 4:57:01 PM (No. 252771)
The efforts to get kids into college was predicted when they passed laws that gave precedence to minorities getting into college. There is competition with college entrance, especially in the top colleges of the country. I would probably have sent my kid to Oxford or a foreign college as they would be better suited for a top education.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Trigger2 12/5/2019 2:44:31 AM (No. 253071)
In demonrat and teacher union thinking, scoring A+ is sex education, how to rumble and create terror, and acing 2+2 = 5 are the only things that really count. I ran into a teacher who told me that whenever she has to teach a lazy student who never does homework and fails every test with an actual score of about 30 or 40, she automatically raises his score and overlooks the non-submitted homework and automatically passes him/her on to the next grade. This in a rural school system. It permeates everywhere. That's the real public education your kids aren't getting and tells you how incompetent parents, single or otherwise, are.
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