New York could ban doctors from
‘virginity checks’ after TI controversy
Independent (UK),
by
Dave Maclean
Original Article
Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk,
11/30/2019 11:00:42 AM
New York - Doctors could be banned from carrying out so-called ‘virginity checks’ in New York State, days after rapper TI was criticised for claiming he makes his daughter undergo the procedure.
The New York State Assembly introduced a bill that would prohibit any procedures designed to determine whether a woman has had sexual intercourse.
Offenders would be subjected to professional misconduct penalties and possible criminal charges. (Snip) It also notes that virginity is not a medical term but rather a “social, cultural and religious construct - one that reflects gender discrimination against women and girls”.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Northcross 11/30/2019 11:28:03 AM (No. 249190)
A potential wedge issue between liberal fruitcakes and orthodox Muslims?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
columba 11/30/2019 11:40:07 AM (No. 249197)
This could be used as a legal ploy to arrest any Priest who is also an MD fro hearing confessions from women.
New York is truly leader in calling evil good and good evil (and the bill shows that none of the supporters waited until they were married to have sex.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
LadyVet 11/30/2019 11:48:08 AM (No. 249205)
Will they also do away with statutory rape laws meant to protect very young girls? What kind of medical proof would be available to use to support a legal case?
Someone has not thought about the consequences of such a law.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
poliposter 11/30/2019 11:53:48 AM (No. 249212)
I raised 4 daughters and what this rapper said was abhorrent. #3, being a virgin is not discriminatory but there is no way to prove a male's virginity, so why would we need to prove a female's? #4, I highly doubt that statutory rape is proven by a 'virginity check." Good lord, people, it is nearly 2020. Take your misogyny back to the 1950s.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
kono 11/30/2019 12:22:18 PM (No. 249234)
virginity is not a medical term but rather a “social, cultural and religious construct -
In common American usage, that may be the case. But one of the biggest reproductive worries for men is being fooled into responsibility for another man's offspring, and a woman whose hymen is still intact is considered by many to be certain not to have a pregnancy at marriage time. In that context virginity seems to be very much a medical term.
At the risk of further objectification of women, a broken hymen is kind of like an opened seal on a box of electronics -- it indicates what is inside is probably used equipment. And in most contexts, used is worth less than new / unused.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
MMC 11/30/2019 12:50:24 PM (No. 249248)
I have daughters.. would never have subjected them to this humiliation. Would prefer my girls had waited till marriage- however- I am not going to shame or guilt my girls!
How male domination continues in certain religions od peace- a girl is checked by some archaic method to determine if a virgin? What if she isn’t? Are you going to stone her to death? Also, why would you be doing this check on young girls?
I don’t know much about TI- not a rap fan.. but he best be talking about strengthening family, protecting our young children, don’t do drugs, and praising women instead of calling them “ho” and “B):;hs”
And- where is the Planned Parenthood crowd screaming to keep laws off our private areas!?
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
lakerman1 11/30/2019 12:53:54 PM (No. 249250)
And, #, the equipment may have been returned for being unsatifactory.;
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Smart11344 11/30/2019 1:25:25 PM (No. 249269)
Black is black. I want my baby black.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Peeps 11/30/2019 3:44:36 PM (No. 249346)
The government can stay out of my relationship with my doctor and my children. Not your job!
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
MuncsSister 11/30/2019 4:19:03 PM (No. 249368)
Thank you #5. I cannot believe this is even up for discussion and that people here actually believe the same medieval myths as washed up rappers and science denying mullahs.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Readaholic 11/30/2019 4:27:01 PM (No. 249372)
Weird and invasive, to say the least. Maybe they should bring back chastity belts.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
bighambone 11/30/2019 7:57:39 PM (No. 249480)
They will just create a black market in virginity checkers if they ban doctors from carrying out those checks. That’s what always happens when the government bans something or a service.
There is no way that a doctor, or any other sort of virginity checker, can tell if a girl has been sexually active, by way of an examination unless she has an STD or admits to having sex, as there are many reasons, other than sex, that can make a girl appear physically not to be a virgin. Parents who require their girls to go through such an examination are wasting their time and money, as it is too late. And what will be will be!
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
preciosodrogas 11/30/2019 9:51:54 PM (No. 249534)
Make a law, why?I don't get it. Why go after the docs? They are licensed to examine and issue medical opinion. What have they done? If it is an issue for the parties then it's their problem. They are both adults - work it out or move on. If it's the father then the father is an idiot and the world is unfair - doesn't last forever as she will soon be of majority. I can sort of understand (w/o necessarily agreeing with it) . For example if a father is wealthy and has eligibility rules for getting a piece of the pie on down the line ... then okay, maybe - his money, his rules. This law "could" as they say, turn docs into cons. Where is the state-wide harm?
We voters really need to pay a little more attention when pulling that lever or punching that chit.to
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I'm NOT a parent, so will kindly stay out of this discussion. On the legislative side, The New York State Assembly sure was quick to introduce this bill. So many "more" other important items the people need.