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Armed citizen puts a stop to fatal
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Posted By: DVC, 11/20/2019 12:41:49 AM

Thank goodness the Duncan, Oklahoma Walmart is not a “gun-free zone.” Because an armed citizen happened to be doing his shopping Monday morning and spotted a gunman shooting, victim fatalities were limited to two people. Brandon Curtis of Concealed Nation writes: A shooting incident occurred in a Walmart parking lot this morning where a man and woman were shot and killed as they sat inside a vehicle. Immediately after, it is reported that an armed citizen, who was in the immediate area, drew his gun and put it to the head of the suspect and told him to stop shooting.

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Good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun. Lives almost certainly saved. Lots of time and money saved, too.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 11/20/2019 12:49:48 AM (No. 239867)
The great equalizer. Good job.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Janylou 11/20/2019 1:35:04 AM (No. 239879)
Sounds like Wal-Mart needs to reevaluate their no gun policy.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: SALady 11/20/2019 2:37:30 AM (No. 239901)
This whole story is just making me mad!!! From all I have read, this was a domestic crime of passion -- ex husband shooting his wife and her new boyfriend. Sad, but hardly national news. Yet because it involved a shooting that just happened to be in a Wal-Mart parking lot in flyover country, the brain-dead lie-berals are using it as a shouting point to call for more gun control!!!!! Many more people were killed by gang bangers and thugs in Chicago this weekend. But because that doesn't meet the left's criteria for the right type of perpetrator, the silence is deafening!!!!
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Catherine 11/20/2019 2:39:59 AM (No. 239902)
I live in Oklahoma. I listened to the reports on this story on local news. Nowhere did anyone say a citizen carrying a gun stopped the shooting. This is the first I heard of this, here at this site.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Strike3 11/20/2019 2:50:09 AM (No. 239906)
Risky move, I would have probably dropped the gunman.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby 11/20/2019 4:44:32 AM (No. 239920)
Agree with #4 First I've heard of it too.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: MDConservative 11/20/2019 6:16:29 AM (No. 239941)
If this was indeed a "crime of passion", what evidence is there that the bad guy was going to go on a shooting spree after dispatching ex- and boyfriend? And where is the evidence that the shooter was "clearly mentally disturbed"?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Rinktum 11/20/2019 6:51:25 AM (No. 239959)
Seems we are getting more of the left’s propaganda than facts. They need these shootings to fit their narrative, therefore, the news is packaged in a way that it will benefit the all guns are bad zealots. OP got it right.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: BeatleJeff 11/20/2019 7:00:41 AM (No. 239965)
Democrats would have preferred a massacre so that they they could exploit it as a campaign issue.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Mekkkk 11/20/2019 7:23:12 AM (No. 239974)
Perfect!
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Red Jeep 11/20/2019 7:24:50 AM (No. 239976)
Meanwhile 2482 have been shot so far this year in Chicago, over 82% are/were Black, the Media doesn't report, but one parking lot shooting at Evil Walmart must be reported, leaving out that a good guy with a gun stopped the shooter.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Lawsy0 11/20/2019 7:28:48 AM (No. 239983)
Agree with #s 4, 6, 8 and others who know a real man with a gun confronts a jealous man with a gun and saves lives. THAT does not fit the narrative of ''we are coming for your guns'' the Democrats and other liberals need to tout. The gunman did the right thing (for him) since now the community will not have to finance a lengthy trial and incarceration.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: udanja99 11/20/2019 7:57:00 AM (No. 240010)
#7, I would submit that anyone who responds to being divorced by shooting up his ex and her boyfriend in a Walmart parking lot is mentally disturbed. Sane people don’t do that.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Mizz Fixxit 11/20/2019 8:37:00 AM (No. 240057)
Twelve died in 3 separate shootings in California over the weekend. The stories were dropped because all the incidents involved shooters of color. This shooting is deemed newsworthy by the corrupt media because of red state location, and the bad guy is white.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: gone2pot 11/20/2019 8:45:46 AM (No. 240068)
Actually INSIDE the Walmart is gun-free, here in Oklahoma, home of the I'm Drawing Mohammad Ranch. However, we just passed the concealed carry law. Yep, we're packing in the parking lot and it's legal to conceal it now as well. Can you guess why the murderer wasn't able to murder more people in the parking lot, Californians, New Yorkers, Illinoians? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
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Reply 16 - Posted by: bubby 11/20/2019 8:50:47 AM (No. 240077)
My wife used to think it was silly that I would conceal carry all the time. Now when shopping at Walmart I can no longer wonder off I have to stay close. I honestly believe if more sane people exercised their God given 2nd Amendment right to bear arms there would be fewer mass shootings and fewer dead. But the left has so demonized guns that most Americans are scared to death of them. With proper training and practice the fear of guns can be overcome. Agree with the above this wasn't a mass shooting but domestic violence in a Walmart parking lot.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Strike3 11/20/2019 8:54:04 AM (No. 240084)
Anybody who reports on, witnesses, or makes an arrest in a shooting involving people of color will be pronounced racist. If the cops fire any shots in the arrest it will be police brutality plus racism. Better to ignore it and not offend anybody. This was not a "Walmart shooting" it happened in a parking lot near Walmart. The store's name is mentioned several times in every article. Is a car crash involving a Camaro a "Chevrolet crash?" The press saves their sensationalism for a white man wearing MAGA clothing and using an AR-15 before they make a big issue out of it. Random killings of Chicago children do not even make the papers any more.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: BillW. 11/20/2019 8:58:08 AM (No. 240089)
And this guy saved lefty op-ed scribes from having to wax eloquent about additional gun control. KAG2020
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Reply 19 - Posted by: DVC 11/20/2019 8:59:52 AM (No. 240090)
#4 and #6, many news media outlets have decided not to publicize when an armed private citizen stops a crime because they are antigun and do not want to permit any facts which support being legally armed to "get out there". More of the propaganda operation, nationwide, which they pretend is "news", but is very slanted. Used to be just a bias in the reporting of the facts. Now "inconvenient" facts are deleted from stories. or entire stories are just not covered - effectively, they never happened.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 11/20/2019 9:01:45 AM (No. 240093)
I would believe the armed citizen's account of what happened any day as opposed to the msm's spin. Good work by the citizen.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: DVC 11/20/2019 9:02:19 AM (No. 240094)
Actually, #15, concealed carry with a permit has been legal in Oklahoma since 2012. The new law is just constitutional carry, where no permit is required.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Hazymac 11/20/2019 9:11:42 AM (No. 240099)
#7 is incorrect. Sane people don't settle domestic disputes with murder. As Professor Ernest van den Haag (longtime friend of WFB) wrote in his seminal Punishing Criminals (1973), passion is not a distinct homogeneous quality; there are degrees of it. Some crazy people are amenable to reason, at times. In fact, the shooter himself maintained enough self awareness to stop shooting others--to pause--when the Army veteran, Mr. Helton, pulled his weapon and put it to his head. That the killer proceeded to cap himself with his final round just saves Oklahoma taxpayers the expense of having to try him for double murder. #9 is correct that the Left positively salivates over a multiple shooting prefatory to more Democrat public lies about the dangers of firearms in friendly hands, and those who carry them legally. The Left don't care if you live or breathe, especially if you voted for the Bad Orange Man. They'd be perfectly willing to see you two dimensional and dead if they could damn the NRA again. Incidentally, despite the mentally disturbed claims of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors (who unanimously declared that NRA members are violent terrorists), you never hear about NRA members or concealed carry permit holders--the most law abiding American citizens of all--committing mass shootings. Despite the fervent wishes of the Left, that just doesn't happen in reality. If the worst happens to you, and a violent criminal singles you out and attacks you with deadly force (whether with a gun, knife, or any other implements of destruction), the police will not be nearby. Your only effective defense is a firearm, especially if you are physically small, elderly, or infirm. The gun is the equalizer. Nothing else will suffice, even if your martial arts skills are at or above fifth degree black belt level. Some "programmed" firearm carriers who dress around their guns each morning regard their legal weapons as Karl Malden regarded his AmEx card: "Don't leave home without it." Finally, most law enforcement officers are fully supportive of civilians with firearms, knowing that the civilian sheepdogs who carry to defend their own lives would not hesitate to come to an officer's defense if the officer was under attack and in trouble.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Rumblehog 11/20/2019 9:14:16 AM (No. 240104)
Our Constitution WORKS!
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Reply 24 - Posted by: MDConservative 11/20/2019 9:27:05 AM (No. 240119)
So, #s 13 & 22, you would agree then that this parking lot killer is not responsible for his crime due to his insanity demonstrated in committing the acts. Is that right? People do evil things, acting rationally from their viewpoint. That their acts may be "insane", doesn't mean they are.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Hazymac 11/20/2019 9:30:41 AM (No. 240123)
Re #24: Don't put words in my mouth. You're a contrarian.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: walcb 11/20/2019 9:34:40 AM (No. 240130)
I would contend that anyone who drives around Chicago shooting innocent people is "clearly mentally disturbed", yet they are not described that way. Which was likely the point of #7. Why is this deranged person identified as "clearly mentally disturbed"?
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Reply 27 - Posted by: bigfatslob 11/20/2019 9:56:34 AM (No. 240167)
First of all I would never be in the mindset if I had to present my pistol in a situation such as this to be so close to put a gun to the assailant's head then speak to him to "stop shooting". The citizen took a grave chance in doing that but it turned out alright. A friend of mine shot an intruder wounding him with a shotgun blast (hunting birdshot, stupid) the police when they arrived asked him why he didn't warn the perp? My friends response was "you are trained to do that but I'm not I'm protecting my family first not chatting with the intruder".
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Reply 28 - Posted by: rmsimms 11/20/2019 10:15:24 AM (No. 240197)
Don’t know what you’re talking about, #15.......I live in IL and you can carry concealed in Wal-Marts here.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: TJ54 11/20/2019 10:27:22 AM (No. 240219)
Will Walmart demand that the good guy with the gun be arrested?
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Reply 30 - Posted by: udanja99 11/20/2019 11:48:30 AM (No. 240322)
Ditto, #25.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Smart11344 11/20/2019 12:06:02 PM (No. 240340)
Never, ever put your life in the hands of a snowflake democrat. You will LOSE.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: MDConservative 11/20/2019 12:13:08 PM (No. 240349)
#25 - Who said, "Sane people don't settle domestic disputes with murder."? This guy did. #30 - Who said, "Sane people don’t do that."? This guy did. Whatever...
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Reply 33 - Posted by: DVC 11/20/2019 12:36:06 PM (No. 240384)
Words mean things and "insane" can be used as a legal defense. I prefer to call people who do great evil as evil people or evil doers. Do they make choices that I would never make? Yes, definitely, but is this actually "insane"? One can make the case that all violation of law is "wrong thinking", but this can be a slippery slope into "he's insane, and not responsible for his actions", which is NOT helpful. IMO, the entire point of laws and law enforcement is to protect the 98-99% of normal, non-violent, non-criminal people from the 1-2% of violent criminals. Getting distracted by "why" someone did their violent misdeed isn't helpful to prevent them from doing it again, and can lead to turning loose some violent offenders "due to mental problems, which they have recovered from". This puts the 98% back at risk, and IMO, is unacceptable. "Why" someone is violent rapidly becomes a theological question, and a distraction from keeping people safe. I don't go there much. Be armed, be safe.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: Kafka2 11/20/2019 5:20:41 PM (No. 240648)
You have to ask yourself, how many people are alive today that would have been killed if the Democrats had already had their way and taken all of the guns away from law abiding citizens.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: Rumblehog 11/20/2019 6:03:11 PM (No. 240689)
#7, sane people don't blow their brains out.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: Salt5792 11/20/2019 6:20:15 PM (No. 240711)
The killing ended because the shooter shot himself. The story about the good guy is just a fiction.
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