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Impeachment Drama Is Fraught
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Posted By: Pluperfect, 11/5/2019 4:50:35 AM

It is painful to take issue with my blessed friend Peggy Noonan, and also painful to read both that she has effectively joined the disreputable impeachers of Donald Trump and has invoked a disingenuous argument in support of that position. Writing in the Wall Street Journal on November 2, she asserted that it is clear President Trump used his office to ask the president of Ukraine to destroy Joe Biden politically and that he used U.S. financial assistance to Ukraine as an incentive, and the withholding of it as a threat to incite such activity. And she wrote that the only remaining argument is whether that constitutes an article of impeachment

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Reply 1 - Posted by: franq 11/5/2019 6:07:30 AM (No. 227449)
A friend of Peggy Noonan is no friend of mine.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: mathman 11/5/2019 6:14:01 AM (No. 227454)
Noonan ceased to be an objective observer many years ago. Her support for the Magic Negro was a case in point. Her announcement that she has joined the never-Trump Brigade illustrates her desire to remain part of the in crowd. She has no desire to lose her never-Trump friends. She is liked by many in the Deep State. She would be an outcast, like Limbaugh, Levin, and others, were she to support DJT. Why she remains at the top of the Journal remains a mystery. There was no quid pro quo. The transcript is clear. Sorry, Peggy. Your use-by date has come.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Rinktum 11/5/2019 6:20:29 AM (No. 227457)
Mr. Black is much kinder to Ms. Noonan than I would be because I believe she gives the Rinos and ruling class credibility when they are, in fact, the real problem in this country. It is the elites who have circled the wagons to protect their little fiefdom because President Trump offends them. They ignore the absolute corruption, power lust, and theft committed by their peers, both democrats and republicans, because they are in “the club” and this President wants nothing to do with their hypocrisy. He knows who has been running the country into the ground and means to stop it. While Ms. Peggy looks down her nose at Donald J. Trump, he is actually doing what the American people elected him to do. It must sting poor Peggy to know that he is accomplishing what her kind could or would not. God bless him for it. Peg and her contemporaries would let the democrats destroy this country if their leader had the approved temperament and bearing and we all know where that would get us. In other words, the American political caste system allows no outsiders regardless of their abilities. Only the ruling class is permitted to lead this country. A man of self-accomplishment and success without what they consider the proper temperament, history and decorum is disqualified. Thank goodness, the votes of people who hold this belief carry no more weight than any deplorable in flyover country and we are legion.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 11/5/2019 6:36:02 AM (No. 227470)
I suspect Noonan's vitriol stems from the fact that the Trump Administration apparently has no use for her. Woman scorned, and all that.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: F15 Gork 11/5/2019 7:11:19 AM (No. 227489)
Noonan & Pierre Delecto have a lot in common - both have fallen into the same rabbit hole....
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Flyball Dogs 11/5/2019 7:29:22 AM (No. 227506)
Nicely done # 3. But in addition to temperament, decorum etc., I believe his major flaw is his AGENDA and the fact he has exposed the corruption the Deep State/RINOS have created. I think I’ve known it all along. But it became an accepted way of life, and I couldn’t see any way to fix it. Until DJT. Only thing is: the more they hate him, the more we love and support him.. Pegs and her buds are dead to me and now serve no useful purpose other than to continually show how they duped me all these years.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: walcb 11/5/2019 7:53:25 AM (No. 227550)
Mr. Black has done an excellent job of analyzing Peggy Noonan. Does he have a degree in psychology? Well done Mr. Black.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Quigley 11/5/2019 8:50:20 AM (No. 227626)
Peggy, your friend Conrad has staged an intervention for you. If you continue on like you have been the next stop is insanity. Absurd analogies employing important historic events to cheapen American history because of your hatred of Trump put you among the lowest of the low.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: chillijilli 11/5/2019 10:09:01 AM (No. 227724)
I have an idea. From now on, when Noonan or any of the other anti-Trumpers or their media sycophants make accusations, Trump should STOP trying to defend himself. Their modus operandi has been to make dishonest accusations and then when Trump tries to defend himself they just change to a new, baseless accusation. They're succeeding in forcing him to be on the defense all the time. And he keeps taking the bait. Instead, he should just look the camera straight in the eye and say, "Look. I'm just trying as hard as I can to clean up all the corruption in Washington. I never had any clue how bad it is." Period. End of discussion. He should keep the focus right there with HIM on the offense. BOTH sides agree we have a corrupted Deep State, so in this area he really does have bipartisan support. When new accusations are made he should simply turn it around and say, "See? Other fake accusation to divert your attention from my attempts to expose the corruption." Unfortunately he lets himself be goaded into a defensive position. I think his fight-back would be more effective if he portrayed himself as Captain America, singlehandedly taking on the evil inside the Beltway. He's got to STOP defending himself.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: bighambone 11/5/2019 10:46:38 AM (No. 227758)
Nobody in Ukraine or the USA would be able to find legitimate “Dirt” or wrong-doing relating to Joe Biden and his son if there is no actual Dirt” to be found. That is unless the “Dirt” is manufactured, but that’s what the Obama Administration, the Hillary Clinton crew, the leftist and liberal Democrats, with help from foreign intelligence operatives, along with their fake news media allies are suspected of doing to President Trump during the run up tp the 2016 election, and after he assumed office. Clearly the Congressional Democrats are trying to project on Trump that past failed Democrat created plan without any credible evidence. Remember Trump asked the Ukrainians to cooperate with the US Attorney General on an official US criminal investigation relating to suspected politically based corrupt activities involving the shadowy Democrat entity known as “Crowd Strike” relating to the 2016 election that occurred both in Ukraine and the USA. There is nothing wrong with such a presidential request. If the Bidens were not involved in any wrongdoing they have nothing to worry about.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: earlybird 11/5/2019 10:52:30 AM (No. 227763)
Sometimes I just shake my head. It is possible to be someone’s friend for a long time, to even admire some of their qualities, without agreeing with their politics or their faulty take on history. Black does not let his feelings for his “blessed friend” get in the way of criticizing her roundly for for her attitude toward the Trump impeachment fiasco. After this essay, Peggy may decide she doesn’t want to be Conrad’s friend... I am not about to toss Conrad Black in the waste bin because he called Peggy Noonan his friend. He clearly does not agree with her… In fact he really takes her to the woodshed, in some detail, over her comments, particularly her pathetic analogy between FDR’s sending ships to the UK prior to the Pearl Harbor attack and the Ukraine phone call. I wonder how many read these articles. And how many, having read them, really don’t understand what the writer is saying...
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Reply 12 - Posted by: earlybird 11/5/2019 10:58:24 AM (No. 227773)
For those who haven’t read the essay, here is what Black thinks may be eating Noonan: Peggy Noonan rose to prominence when her marvelous English composition and phrase-making as President Ronald Reagan’s chief speechwriter united with that president’s almost hypnotic powers as an orator. We are all unlicenced psychiatrists and I have surmised that this president’s less gentlemanly, less kindly, and less philosophical traits have contrasted so vividly with her warm recollections of her close collaboration with President Reagan that this may have exacerbated her disenchantment with the incumbent. That would be understandable, but I had hoped that her recollections of how quickly much of the media assaulted President Reagan over the Iran-Contra affair and predicted, with some relish, that his administration would disintegrate, would cause her to have a little sympathy with this president over the Ukraine events, which on what we know, are less legally controversial and much less embarrassing to the president than the matter of cycling aid to the Nicaraguan Contras via Israel and Iran in contravention of pertinent legislation was to President Reagan.
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