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Posted By: earlybird, 10/31/2019 3:54:14 PM

I have a confession. I behaved badly recently, and I’m just going to admit it. As a guest at a dinner party in Georgetown, I stormed in and started bossing everyone around. First, I demanded that the foyer be painted a different color and wainscoting be added to the dining room. Then I had my hosts assemble their children so I could give them all different names. Before making my exit, I grabbed two legs of turkey off the entree platter and stuffed them in my purse. I have a second confession. None of that happened. But if it had, I would be exactly like Lt. Col. Alexander S. Vindman.

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Keep reading. Ann never did start off a column in conventional style… This is the Best of Coulter, IMHO.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: earlybird 10/31/2019 3:55:09 PM (No. 223211)
For the doubters, another bite or two: Now he is the top Ukrainian adviser on the National Security Council. Of all the people who could look out for the U.S.’s interests vis-a-vis Ukraine, we got someone who was born there. As such, Vindman was permitted to listen to a phone call the president of the United States made to the president of Ukraine — a completely unnecessary, pro forma task. So, naturally, when he had a policy disagreement with President Trump pertaining to the country he was born in, he thought he had a responsibility to agitate for removal proceedings against the duly elected U.S. president, just as I might have taken issue with the carpets in the Georgetown townhouse. Now, read the rest. It’s worth it.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Rumblehog 10/31/2019 4:16:30 PM (No. 223222)
Quite true, as usual with Ann. I love having bomb throwers like her on our side. The opposition loathes her.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Rumblehog 10/31/2019 4:18:11 PM (No. 223223)
Ann is spot on here. It's always nice having a "bomb thrower" like Ann on our side. The opposition loathes her.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Rumblehog 10/31/2019 4:19:07 PM (No. 223225)
sorry for the double post... couldn't tell if the first one stuck or not.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Lawsy0 10/31/2019 4:37:50 PM (No. 223240)
Both the OP and the 2nd reply are people I follow on the threads and both are respected responders. My question is this: did I miss several other opportunities to learn that Vindman and his twin were born in Ukraine? Another part of the question is how many other non-native people who come to the US, join our military services and THEN become highly placed operatives within our government?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: earlybird 10/31/2019 5:04:45 PM (No. 223279)
Re #5, if you mean was it not common knowledge that Vindman was born in the Unkraine, at the time that he was born it was still part of the USSR. Some article say he and his twin were born in the USSR, others say Ukraine in the USSR. I’m not sure where you were going with that question. I don’t know the answer to the other question, although it seems odd that these twin brothers would have ascended to such high positions. I never thought the USSR was exactly trusted, no matter how young a person was who came from there. There were three brothers. All three ended up in the U. S. military. I believe Brennan and Obama may have had a lot to do with his WH position, but I haven’t checked that.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Enoch Powell 10/31/2019 5:17:52 PM (No. 223288)
Regarding his divided loyalties (if that) I would like to see his bank account. His Swiss bank account (and that of his brothers).
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Reply 8 - Posted by: LittleRedHen1 10/31/2019 5:37:17 PM (No. 223305)
Why was he allowed to work at the NSC? How did he get or keep a clearance that permitted him to work at the NSC?
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Reply 9 - Posted by: DVC 10/31/2019 5:42:30 PM (No. 223310)
How about deep Russian plants? Put in the family, raise up the kids in the USA, but teach them from childhood what their REAL loyalties should be, to Russia. Here is a pair of Ukraine (Soviet Ukraine) born brothers, in positions of power in the US Army, and now one is helping to push a coup attempt against an elected President. Am I the only one who thinks that this stinks even more because I don't trust this Vindman guy is an actual loyal American?
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Starboard_side 10/31/2019 5:45:18 PM (No. 223315)
The odds of two brothers, twins, are able to end up in the same WH, across the aisle from each other, is likely astounding. What Vindman seemed to be most concerned with was the discussion from others poking around in Ukraine issues, and how it may affect the bi-partisan support Ukraine was enjoying (or was told they would not receive in a letter from 4 Democrat Senators who challenged Ukraine on just such support if they pursued certain topics). It seems more likely the current drama is more of a means to cover-up things that were going on in Ukraine, including the inability to account for $7.5 BILLION dollars of IMF money that is guaranteed by the United States, and the inability of person's trying to alert U.S. officials of 2016 election interference FOR Hillary Clinton due to the U.S. Ambassador denying travel visas. And, that Guiliani was poking around. He did not state there was anything improper about the call in July.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Newtsche 10/31/2019 6:39:26 PM (No. 223353)
fta - " ..it’s claimed that Trump’s conduct creates the appearance of impropriety." Ha ha!! "the appearance of impropriety", I remember when that was a thing. There I go, showing my age. **slinks off all red-faced**
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Reply 12 - Posted by: bighambone 10/31/2019 6:43:11 PM (No. 223356)
Since Alexander Vindman, I doubt that was his surname at birth, apparently was born in the Soviet Republic of Ukraine when that region was a part of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) which because the independent country of Ukraine when the USSR became defunct, and then came to the USA as a immigrant child, chances are under Ukrainian law he is still considered to be a citizen of Ukraine, as well as being a naturalized citizen of the USA, a status he would have needed to obtain a commission in the US Army. This matter has nothing to do with Vindman’s service in the US Army, and has everything to do with Vindman’s natural affinity for the country of his birth of which he obviously has a major special interest in seeing that Ukraine has bipartisan support in the US Congress and continues to receive as much US foreign and military aid as possible. Under the US Constitution the elected President of the USA has the authority to decide what US foreign policy with all countries will be, and in President Trump’s case, his “America First” foreign policy agenda towards Ukraine was bound to clash with Vindman’s special interest in assisting the country of his birth, Ukraine. Clearly Vindman has no authority as to decide what US foreign policy will be and has a clear conflict of interest in his current White House position where his mission is to carry out the foreign policy objectives of the President towards Ukraine. Vindman is a US Army commissioned officer who took an oath to carry out all the orders of the Commander in Chief, President Trump, on down through his chain of command. In that status Vindman had no business testifying for the partisan Democrats in the Congress concerning his opinion that he did not like the President’s foreign policy agenda towards Ukraine. If Vindman was able to gain access to the White House this morning and was allowed to return to his National Security Council position there, it is common sense that there is something very wrong there as when you get to the bottom line, the creation of US foreign policy decisions is the call of the elected President, and not people assigned by the DC civilian and military bureaucracies who are detailed to work in the White House. I would not be surprised if Vindman now retires from the military and takes a job working as a foreign agent for Ukraine in the USA. In general legal immigrants who come to live and work indefinitely in the USA, once they attain the status of a naturalized US citizen, many times also retain the citizenship of the country of their birth and are commonly referred to as being duel citizens or duel nationals. It depends on the individual if he or she holds their primary allegiance to the USA, or may still retain their primary or secondary allegiance to the country of their birth. Since that is a private matter for each individual you never know. Many of those people possess two passports, a US Passport that shows their nationality as being a US citizen, along with a passport of the country of their birth that shows their nationality as being the particular country where they were born. Those people use their US Passport to come into and go from the USA, and once outside the USA may use either passport to enter and leave foreign countries whichever is more personally beneficial to them.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: earlybird 10/31/2019 7:21:11 PM (No. 223397)
Re #12, very good Reply. His name at birth (according to Wikipedia) Aleksandr Semenovich Vindman. I was told that Bolton was responsible for his being assigned to the White House. KELLY: What did he do with that concern? MYRE: Well, he wanted to raise it, and he did have a confidant at the National Security Council he could turn to - Army Lt. Col. Yevgeny Vindman, his identical twin brother. KELLY: Oh, wow. MYRE: That's right. They both work in the NSC in the West Wing of the White House. His brother is a lawyer who deals with ethics questions. And Alexander Vindman raised this with the NSC's top lawyer. He said he'd often been encouraged to express his views and share his concern but was very proper about it, said it had to go through the chain of command through the proper authorities. He stresses he's not the whistleblower, but clearly, he's been in the middle of these Ukrainian discussions for the past year. https://www.nhpr.org/post/who-lt-col-alexander-vindman In short, he didn’t agree with the President. Or what he thought the President was saying. So he went to brother and then took brother with him to tell the chief lawyer for the NSC. All of this sounds odd, fishy, sketchy….pick a word.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: GO3 10/31/2019 9:38:39 PM (No. 223479)
Checking with the chain of command on raising his concerns is fishy at best. A service member detailed to a civilian activity has no civilian, none, zip, nada in his chain of command. I have been a uniformed officer working for a civilian, and a civilian with reserve and active duty officers working for me. As a uniformed officer, I cannot be ordered by a civilian, nor as a civilian boss can I legally order around any uniformed service member. At one point as a civilian, I had a three star boss and the same protocol applied. Now, we all worked together as a team and refusal to do work regardless of civilian/military status would result in very negative consequences, but not regulation wise from civilian authority to military or vice versa. I'm curious as to who Vindman thought was his chain of command, and checking with the lawyer doesn't count. Vindman wears the joint staff badge on his uniform. He has a military chain of command out there somewhere. Were they involved? Who did what to whom? IMO he was basically a free agent hiding behind his NSC access and his civilian clothes. Regardless, he messed up big time, because the civilian chain of authority and the military chain of command ends at one guy, and that's the POTUS. The question is, what military members in the chain of command were ever informed or approached on this matter, or as another poster said is the military bureaucracy covering for Vindman?
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