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Key witness in trial of killer
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Posted By: Ribicon, 10/6/2019 9:40:12 AM

A key witness who testified for the prosecution in the trial of killer Texas cop Amber Guyger was shot to death in an ambush outside his apartment, according to a report on Saturday. Witness Joshua Brown, a neighbor of Guyger’s victim Botham Jean, was found on the ground, his body riddled with bullets, Friday around 10:30 p.m. outside his building in a Dallas neighborhood, The Dallas Morning News reported. He was taken to Parkland Memorial Hospital, where he died from his injuries. There was no suspect information available. Witnesses told police they heard several gunshots and saw a silver sedan speeding away

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Sounds like that apartment complex really was a dangerous place and that Amber Guyger had good reason to be keyed up.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: ROLFNader 10/6/2019 9:43:10 AM (No. 199118)
Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Toby Ten Bears 10/6/2019 9:46:48 AM (No. 199121)
Well... There ya go...
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Reply 3 - Posted by: smcchk 10/6/2019 9:51:04 AM (No. 199126)
This is awful! Tragedy upon tragedy. I pray the killers are brought to justice though now two young lives lost for no reason.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: jntsrgn 10/6/2019 10:09:12 AM (No. 199149)
Referring to this woman as a killer cop seems a very unnecessary bit of sensationalism.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 10/6/2019 10:12:43 AM (No. 199154)
If he were targeted because he was a witness, they would have killed him before he managed to give his testimony. It served no purpose for him to be killed with this trial already completed. This makes no sense at all.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: susieq1 10/6/2019 10:22:56 AM (No. 199160)
Somehow, I think there is more to the story.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Ribicon 10/6/2019 10:24:32 AM (No. 199162)
This could easily be a case of mistaken identity or circumstance, the same as what led to Officer Guyger to shoot Botham Jean. But whereas Guyger thought she was defending herself, the killer in Brown's case may well have been avenging a drug or a gang beef and picked the wrong person. The former spurs outrage in the Community, while the latter will be met with silence because in all likelihood, the killer was also black.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: JunkYardDog 10/6/2019 10:30:49 AM (No. 199165)
Black men commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime compared to the rest of the population. A drunk cop enters the wrong apt thinking its hers and sees a black man in it. She was certainly wrong to kill the man, but cops can't be faulted for their behaviors based upon experiences they see every single day of their lives. And what we see is...a black man being killed by another black. Like the cops see every single day.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Tallgrass Palms 10/6/2019 11:03:45 AM (No. 199190)
Bet he wished he wasn't so "key" as the bullets flew.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Chuzzles 10/6/2019 11:10:52 AM (No. 199193)
As Arsenio Hall used to say on his talk show, things that make you go Hmmm.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: earlybird 10/6/2019 11:25:24 AM (No. 199204)
The article I read earlier (most of which came from civil rights lawyer Lee Merritt who is representing Jean’s mother) said that Brown had “witnessed” all that he testified to through the peephole in his door down the hall. This article says he lived next door. You could not see activity at an apartment next door through a nextdoor peephole. Brown had just met neighbor Jean earlier that day. He subsequently moved to another apartment house. “Attended college” in Florida, was unsuccessful at football, had a number of varied jobs, most recently had been managing Air bnbs in Los Angeles, Atlanta and Dallas. Feared for his own life, which may have been a general remark or something specific. He was shot in the mouth and the chest. That sounds like execution. Merritt is trying to tie him to Jean’s death. I am wondering if Brown had troubles of his own. While they are trying to turn this into a civil rights issue. I believe someone had a beef with Brown.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: earlybird 10/6/2019 11:27:58 AM (No. 199208)
I would want to know for whom he managed those air bnbs in such spread out locations. We are finding out that air bnbs are often just popup brothels and drug operations.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: earlybird 10/6/2019 11:34:23 AM (No. 199212)
Excuse additional post. Here is what CNN reported: The night Guyger shot Jean, Brown said he was down the hall when he heard the voices of two people who sounded like they were meeting by "surprise." Then gunshots followed "right after," Brown said. Soon later, Brown said, he saw Guyger enter the hallway from Jean's apartment. The officer was the phone. She was "crying, explaining what happened, what she thought happened, saying she came in to the wrong apartment," Brown testified. Through his peep hole, Brown said he also saw the former officer "going back, back and forth on the phone." "And then, I think she went back inside, then came back out," Brown siad. https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/us/botham-jean-neighbor-killed/index.html All through a next door peephole? Our front door has a peephole that sort of works like a fisheye. If we were on an apartment hallway, there is no way that it would pick up all that detail from an apartment door next door. He was not just the “key” witness; he was the only witness.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: DVC 10/6/2019 11:36:32 AM (No. 199216)
IIRC, a black male is 17 times more likely to be a murderer than a white male. And that ratio is probably pretty similar on the receiving end of bullets, too. It is interesting, and from the little bit of his testimony that I read, I wonder if his job of railroading a police officer by counteracting her defense is done, and somebody wanted to be sure he didn't get cold feet and recant at some future time. He said he heard the victim singing and never heard her orders to him before shooting, both, if believed, blow big holes in the defense case. My theory is that she made a terrible mistake, but MIGHT HAVE gotten off with a lighter charge and lighter sentence, but somebody paid this guy to knock the slats out from under her already shaky defense case, and he was now a potential liability. After the totally fake railroad job on George Zimmerman, I am pretty skeptical in this sort of "white shoots black" cases that there isn't a LOT of interest in the black grievance and money grubbing industry of making sure to "get whitey", and to hell with the truth.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: mc squared 10/6/2019 12:19:42 PM (No. 199261)
I haven't seen this news item anywhere else, unlike the furor when the white cop shot the black man.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 10/6/2019 12:23:48 PM (No. 199265)
The apartment complex confuses me. A person can use the key to their own apartment to open the door to another apartment? Do the doors lock? What is the point of having doors? This place sounds like the type I would move away from as fast as possible. Even more so now with the shootings.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: DVC 10/6/2019 1:17:16 PM (No. 199326)
#16, I wondered the same thing. Apparently the key point is that the door was ajar. I know that if I came home to my house and the door was ajar, I would enter with gun drawn. I do NOT leave my door ajar, and burglars frequently do, and cops know this. I am sure this played a key part in 1) letting her get into the wrong apartment and 2) triggering her to imagine that she was walking in on a burglary in progress. But, fortunately for me, I live in a single family, detached home in the suburbs and there is zero chance of getting the wrong house, I have more cars than drivers, always a car or truck in the drive, easy to be sure where you are. In these rabbit warren apartment complexes, not quite as easy. OTOH, who in hell leaves their apartment door ajar at night? EVER??
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Omen55 10/6/2019 2:12:31 PM (No. 199386)
What are the odds?
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Reply 19 - Posted by: PatInTexas 10/6/2019 2:25:45 PM (No. 199393)
This young man was not shot outside HIS apartment...according to the Dallas Morning News article. "Updated at 5:30 p.m. with the victim's identity A key witness in Amber Guyger's murder trial was shot and killed Friday evening at an apartment complex near Dallas' Medical District, authorities said. Joshua Brown, a neighbor of Botham Jean's and Guyger at the South Side Flats apartments, was slain about 10:30 p.m. in the 4600 block of Cedar Springs Road."
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Lawsy0 10/6/2019 2:50:10 PM (No. 199417)
I wonder if there is more to this story than we are being told?
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Reply 21 - Posted by: caljeepgirl 10/6/2019 3:18:54 PM (No. 199437)
According to reports I've seen, the door was not locked...evidently very slightly ajar.....hot night?
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Rumblehog 10/6/2019 3:45:39 PM (No. 199450)
Well, there's one witness that won't be around for the appeal trial...
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Reply 23 - Posted by: earlybird 10/6/2019 5:14:30 PM (No. 199511)
I too wondered about how she would have been able to get into Jean's apartment with a key until I read that the door was ajar. That would imply that he was expecting a visitor. Although the news never said a word, I can’t believe that her apprehension at finding her door open and ajar after having been at work for a 13.5 hour shift would not have caused her to enter with her weapon drawn. I once lived in an apartment building that was 9 stories high and every single hallway, every single door, looked the same. Identical. Not making excuses for what she did, but I do believe there will turn out to be much more to this story.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: earlybird 10/6/2019 5:17:04 PM (No. 199512)
Re #19, you provide no link, but did the DMN article include the information that Brown moved shortly after the Jean shooting? Was now living in an apartment complex about 5 mile away and was shot in that complex’s parking area?
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Reply 25 - Posted by: DVC 10/6/2019 11:01:07 PM (No. 199741)
Probably committed suicide, just like Epstein.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: PatInTexas 10/6/2019 11:26:17 PM (No. 199760)
Reply to #24 Here's the link to the DMN article. https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2019/10/05/man-fatally-shot-apartment-complex-near-dallas-medical-district-suspect-loose/
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