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Horrific Reports From Bahamas in Dorian
Aftermath – A Topography Changed Event…

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Posted By: earlybird, 9/7/2019 10:57:41 AM

Steve Harrigan reports from Abaco Island in the Bahamas as search and rescue efforts continue. The scale of the devastation is incredible; everything is gone, and worse yet the topography has changed removing the ability of deep water ports to be used in/around most of the northern Bahama islands. The anticipated death toll is expected to be dramatic. (Snip) The equipment needed, and the fuel to make the equipment operational, is not able to reach the Islands because the underwater topography has changed. Deep water channels and port routes need to be remapped. Most previous ports in/around the Northern Bahamas are no longer feasible for use.

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What used to be deep water is now shallow water. Ocean vessels have been warned to stay clear of the Northern Bahamas… Video.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: earlybird 9/7/2019 11:18:00 AM (No. 173837)
I just watched the video report by Steve Harrigan (Fox). He is an excellent reporter. Just tells it like it is. There is no need to enhance reporting on this dreadful scene. One wonders how they will ever begin to come back from this. The area he is in is very poor. There are no signs of life. There are dead bodies and parts of bodies still unattended to, although morticians are said to be on the ground in some areas, embalming, as there is no refrigeration. He says that he could see the efforts to remap the harbor going on, but for now no fixed wing aircraft can get in and large vessels cannot come there. And except for the U. S. Coast Guard, it appears that these people - believed to be mostly Haitians - were too poor for anyone to even know they were there. No one is searching for anyone...
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Reply 2 - Posted by: whyyeseyec 9/7/2019 12:27:41 PM (No. 173884)
It looks like anywhere in the mid west after a tornado hits a populated area. Rebuild an stop whining.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Smoolie 9/7/2019 12:30:20 PM (No. 173888)
Isn't this part of the British "Empire"? The U.S. sending help is one thing, but England needs to be taking the lead, and bearing most of the cost, not my taxes. Also taking in survivors as needed, not the U.S.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: earlybird 9/7/2019 1:11:16 PM (No. 173940)
No tornado in the mid-West has stayed for three days, with constant 185mph winds gusting up into 200+mph. And in all my years as a news watcher, I have never heard of a tornado that left bodies lying around for 6 days, too many to deal with, and arms and legs sticking out of the rocks. Have a look at that video. Listen to the report.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: RenoVet68 9/7/2019 2:04:33 PM (No. 173996)
Wonder if the Clinton's will start a PAC to "help" the Bahamians as they did to help the Haitians?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: DVC 9/7/2019 2:17:01 PM (No. 174007)
Some parts of Elbow Cay, one of the larger of the eastern-most cays, were 75 yds wide, and very low lying, perhaps 10-15 ft above the high tide line, and exposed directly to the open Atlantic, other parts were 200 yds wide and similarly low lying. North of it were Green Turtle and Great Guana Cays, perhaps slightly higher, maybe 18-20 ft max and 250 yds -400yds wide, and their eastern shores exposed directly to the open Atlantic. Do these islands even exist any more? Are they bare sand bars now?
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Reply 7 - Posted by: DVC 9/7/2019 2:17:46 PM (No. 174009)
#2,that is ridiculous, and callous comment, the GROUND doesn't go away in a tornado.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: earlybird 9/7/2019 2:43:12 PM (No. 174031)
Something for the drivebys to ponder. (Do you really believe they ponder?) Satellite images of Grand Bahama before and after Dorian: https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/03/weather/hurricane-dorian-bahamas-before-and-after-wxc-trnd/index.html
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Nevadadad46 9/7/2019 3:07:27 PM (No. 174051)
Wow. Looks like a hurricane came through. Looks like the aftermath of Hurricane Charley of 2004, or Hurricane Andrew of 1992, or Hurricane "superstorm" Sandy, of 2012, or Hurricane Camille of 1969 (no one ever knew exactly how fast the wind speeds were becasue all the weather measuring stations were destroyed!), or the unamed Hurricane that leveled Galveston in 1900 and killed more than 2000 people! In other words- hurricanes kill. They are and always have been huge, deadly storms not to be taken carelessly. They are deadly, serious killlers!
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Reply 10 - Posted by: DVC 9/7/2019 4:42:54 PM (No. 174104)
The difference here is that large portions of the islands appear to have been literally washed away, but the information is not yet anything like complete. I wish I had a current sat image of the outer eastern cays of the Abacoes now.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: earlybird 9/7/2019 4:45:30 PM (No. 174107)
How and where they measure hurricane winds and other data: While satellites, radars and computer models can help meteorologists understand the atmosphere better, they are not much help figuring out the specifics on whether a tropical disturbance has become a tropical storm or even a hurricane. In order to do that, someone has to actually enter the cyclone to learn about the barometric pressure and wind speeds within. Known as Hurricane Hunters, these brave people fly into tropical cyclones to gather needed data. Using specialized, instrumented aircraft, the pilot and crew perform reconnaissance on storms. Investigative missions are usually done during daylight in the morning or early evening. Once a storm has a circulation, the missions are conducted every 3-6 hours. Temperature, pressure and wind are recorded as the flight occurs and sent back to the NOAA National Hurricane Center (NHC) by satellite. In stronger hurricanes, dropsondes are released into both the eyewall, to measure the wind, and the eye, to measure the pressure. More here. https://blog.weatherops.com/how-are-hurricane-wind-speeds-determined
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Reply 12 - Posted by: pros7767 9/7/2019 5:07:10 PM (No. 174115)
#3, they were but are now an independent country. Steve Harrigan went on and on yesterday about no one getting the bodies. The First step is rescue survivors! The Coast Guard has their hands full just doing that. Then comes the recovery! With no ports and no airfield, all of the above are next to impossible to do expeditiously. Thank you U.S. Coast Guard!
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Reply 13 - Posted by: LoneVoice 9/7/2019 5:38:31 PM (No. 174139)
Send the Marines in LCACs. Those hovercraft would be perfect for bringing in tons of supplies in short order.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 9/7/2019 5:59:52 PM (No. 174160)
A topography changing event? Yep. Hurricanes can do that. Btw, our coastlines have changed over time. The Bahamas will need help. Wonder if its possible to evacuate an island if its going to be hit by a cat 5 hurricane.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: chance_232 9/7/2019 6:49:41 PM (No. 174182)
Thus the hazzards of living on an island in a hurricane prone area of the world. Destruction like this is inevitable for most islands and coasts in the Gulf, Caribbean, and east Atlantic coasts. That doesnt make it any less heart wrenching.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: BillW. 9/7/2019 7:48:29 PM (No. 174205)
Only President Trump can do the right thing here. And the progressive haters will rip everything he does apart. Item by item. Piece by piece. MAGA
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Reply 17 - Posted by: DVC 9/7/2019 8:29:06 PM (No. 174231)
In 1964, Hurricane Dora hit Jax Beach, where we lived. We had huge oak branches, 18" diam by 25+ft long in the front and back yard, but neighbors had a tree into the house, power out for a few days. A friend asked us to come up to Ponte Vedre, north of Jacksonville on the coast. He had a vacation home "on the beach". He needed some help with some damage cleanup, fairly minor, but require many hands for lifting. After helping, we walked down to the beach, which was over a low dune from his house, then over a higher dune, and then down, about 200 yds to the water from the second dune. As we got to the top of the second dune.....the surf was about 50 ft away. Several hundred feet of shore was GONE. At the water's edge looking north and south, the coast line was straight as a string, no local erosion, all gone for MILES AND MILES. I tried to ponder how many million truckloads of sand had been moved overnight by that storm....just "AWAY". Gone. Now if your sandbar of an island home is 200 ft wide from east to west.......that is pretty ugly, at least potentially. This is why I fear for the smaller cays of the eastern line of the Abacoes, which I have visited several times by boat, and greatly enjoyed the diving there. I hope they still even exist.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: DVC 9/7/2019 8:33:23 PM (No. 174232)
Oh, and Dora had 115 mph winds when she came ashore. Dorian had 185 mph and stayed 36 hrs on the Abacoes. Wind force is proportional to the square of the wind speed so Dorian winds packed 2.6 times the force of Dora's winds.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Zarin 9/7/2019 10:06:45 PM (No. 174281)
Yah! Those poor people. There is a difference in being stuck on an island during a hurricane and being onshore a continent.
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