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Beginning of US Slavery

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Posted By: Pluperfect, 8/28/2019 5:20:51 AM

The New York Times has begun a major initiative, the "1619 Project," to observe the 400th anniversary of the beginning of American slavery. It aims to reframe American history so that slavery and the contributions of black Americans explain who we are as a nation. Nikole Hannah-Jones, staff writer for The New York Times Magazine wrote the lead article, "America Wasn't a Democracy, Until Black Americans Made It One." She writes, "Without the idealistic, strenuous and patriotic efforts of black Americans, our democracy today would most likely look very different -- it might not be a democracy at all." There are several challenges one can make about Hannah-Jones's article,

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Reply 1 - Posted by: LaVallette 8/28/2019 5:43:00 AM (No. 164384)
Conjecture is not fact!
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Reply 2 - Posted by: F15 Gork 8/28/2019 6:34:36 AM (No. 164410)
Whole bunch of Black Patriotism going on up Chicago way. Get back to me when you want to have a go at civilization again...
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Reply 3 - Posted by: privateer 8/28/2019 6:45:45 AM (No. 164416)
The relationship between Black Americans and the dhimm party is enduring proof of the truth of Voltaire's quote: 'It is difficult to free a slave from the chains he reveres.' Thank hollyweird, the Teachsters' Union and higher edumacation for their continued fealty to the rat party.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: gusman1964 8/28/2019 7:53:46 AM (No. 164485)
From 1619 until the Treaty of Paris of 1783, America was under BRITISH RULE! In less than 80 years America would fight a bloody war to end slavery. So most of that time would be British Slavery, Not American slavery. Idiot Liberals!!
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Reply 5 - Posted by: mean Gene 8/28/2019 8:00:38 AM (No. 164490)
ALL of the workers imported between 1609 and 1640 were indentured servants, both blacks and whites. ALL of them were freed within 4 to 7 years with generous parting packages like acres of land, a larder full of food and cash. "Slavery" started later. Many of those freed black indentured servants were the 1st to own black slaves.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: JrSample 8/28/2019 8:09:42 AM (No. 164499)
This "1619" thing is getting old real fast. The Virginia colony was not the founding of this country. It was a for-profit business venture that was undertaken by the Virginia Company of London, a company chartered by the British Crown and open to investors to buy shares of stock. It's purpose was to colonize its' assigned area on the coast of North America to produce agricultural products and harvest raw materials for profit. The whole slavery business is a non sequitur. The slaves that they are referring to in 1619 were 20 in number and had been taken from a Portuguese slave ship by a British Pirates. Slavery was not invented by these colonists, but had been practiced by every civilization throughout human history. All the countries of Europe were engaged in the slave trade with 96% of the trade going to Spanish and Portuguese colonies in Central America, South America, and the West Indies. How come these liberal navel gazers are not pontificating about how Brazil and Spain's wealth is due to slavery? What was unique about the American founding in 1776 was the rejection of "the divine right of Kings" and rule by hereditary monarchies, which had been practiced for centuries. Unlike all other countries the US Constitution was based on recognizing men as autonomous individuals with rights and not subjects of a monarch.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: LadyChurchillUSA 8/28/2019 8:18:35 AM (No. 164506)
Gee Hannah, Didn't bother to read your article because apparently you do not know that we are not a democracy but a republic which is a very different animal. Perhaps you should read a book once in awhile, I suggest any written before 1950. Stop Googling and read the Federalist papers and find out how we got here.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Michaelus 8/28/2019 8:19:50 AM (No. 164511)
Baltimore was a nice city in 1865. It was even nicer in 1965. Then Obama started race riots to bolster his "democratic" election base. This is how democracies commit suicide.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Rumblehog 8/28/2019 8:57:01 AM (No. 164560)
Another woefully moronic black person speaks. The USA is a Republic, not a Democracy. All one need do is observe black history in Africa to see what it's like outside these shores. It's a pretty gruesome situation over there. Blacks got a better deal here than anywhere else in the world. Look at Liberia today to see what "freed slaves" made, when left to their own devices. Liberia is a pit of corruption and mayhem.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: harleynyc 8/28/2019 9:31:53 AM (No. 164604)
excuse my nyc public education, but wasn't the U.S. the first nation to not only end slavery, but had a civil war doing so costing the lives over 600,000 , and countless wounded and disabled ?
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Reply 11 - Posted by: StrikingViking 8/28/2019 10:53:55 AM (No. 164694)
Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past. George Orwell "1984" The NYTimes is Big Brother's Ministry of Truth.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: joew9 8/28/2019 10:55:37 AM (No. 164696)
It kinda sounds like the NYT is trying to make the case that slavery is what made America great. And it appears that the open borders crowd (Repubs and Dems alike plus the EU) want all the citizens of the world to be enslaved to a socialist government so obviously they believe it's what will make their countries great. But of course they are measuring greatness by how rich the very rich are. Notice how during the crash in 2007 the world was going to end if the big banks lost any money so the government had to bail them out. Their entire point of view was if rich bankers lost any money then the world was going to end. They could not conceive that it was only themselves that would lose.
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