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Great Lakes Reveal a Fatal
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Posted By: RockyTCB, 6/10/2019 5:05:07 AM

Lake Erie and Lake Superior — two of the five that make up the Great Lakes — broke records for water levels this May. Lakes Michigan and Huron could follow suit. Naturally, climate change is getting the blame. “We are undoubtedly observing the effects of a warming climate in the Great Lakes,” says Richard Rood, a University of Michigan climate scientist. But just a few years ago, climate scientists were insisting that a warming climate would cause water levels to decline. In 2008, Science Daily reported on a study that attributed the decline in Great Lakes water levels to global warming.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: NancyD 6/10/2019 6:52:05 AM (No. 94813)
We boat on the Great Lakes, the levels right now are the highest we've seen, 5 years ago they were the lowest we've seen. This ebb and flow has remained constant for as long as I can remember. I don't think it has a thing to do with "climate change" but it does have to do with the weather. When it rains the lake levels rise, when it doesn't, they lower... Go figure. Ha!
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Reply 2 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 6/10/2019 7:07:44 AM (No. 94820)
The climate Alarmists have missed their window to grab the narrative and get what they are really after, global control, power, and money. The chance they had was to force panic and unthinking action. The longer we look at their "theory" the worse it holds up. This article is only one data point but it repeats a pattern. When they started, the Alarmists took a snapshot at the time and proposed that changes would happen extending "problems", i.e. weather events, that were happening at the time. They claimed their "theory" models confirmed it. The problem is, the weather, as it is guaranteed to do, changed. Droughts turned into floods. Hot turned into cold. Little snow turned into lots of snow. And every time, the Alarmists had to pivot and claim that their "theory" covered the new weather as well. But the longer this goes on the more Alarmists have to claim that "Climate Change" causes ALL TYPES of weather. If so, what is the predictable trend? When weather proceeds in every direction, how can you know how it will end up in 100 years? How do you really know what is driving it? TIme is the enemy of climate change theory. It's already well past its sell by date.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: philsner 6/10/2019 7:25:08 AM (No. 94834)
There is zero science in liberalism.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: udanja99 6/10/2019 7:38:45 AM (No. 94841)
Absolutely, #3. The same people who continuously screech that “climate change” is settled science and is dooming us to oblivion will tell us that one’s chromosomes are “fluid” and that an 9 month gestation human baby in utero is not a human baby.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 6/10/2019 7:47:20 AM (No. 94848)
I love it when God shows them who's in charge by having a freak snow storm during a global warming conference. If fact that is one of the reasons they changed the narrative to climate change. The ones pushing the narrative know exactly what they are trying to do globally, but the useful idiots who follow along don't realize that the climate has been constantly changing since the flood, which resulted in an incredible ice build up.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: America Rising 2020 6/10/2019 7:50:10 AM (No. 94850)
The righteous hate what is false, but the wicked make themselves a stench and bring shame on themselves. Prov 13:5
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Hermoine 6/10/2019 8:24:49 AM (No. 94884)
One would think, at this point, that these so-called scientists would be embarrassed, but the author is right, it is a religion, so the faithful press on.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: seamusm 6/10/2019 8:35:08 AM (No. 94897)
Non-scientist or rather anti-science types have only a minimal clue that all measurements have intrinsic and inescapable variability whether beccause the measurement tool is itself slightly imprecise or the thing being measured has its own moment to moment or year to year ups and downs. We are taller in the morning - heart rates and blood pressure vary from minute to minute. We have dry years and wet years and while we think we have some clue as to why (El Nino vs La Nina ocean temps) the truth is our understanding is still a science in infancy and NO ONE truthfully knows why some years are El Nino and others aren't. No honest scientist believes that climate predictions are anything more than yet unproven hypotheses. Now for the sake of employment and academic funding some will with fingers crossed pretend they know why - but sadly others are enmeshed in political arguments using science as a pawn.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: starboard 6/10/2019 8:38:56 AM (No. 94901)
The so-called scientists are paid well to support climate change.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: bpl40 6/10/2019 8:42:40 AM (No. 94907)
Lived on the beach in Rochester NY for a few years. As anyone who sees the lake every waking moment knows (a) lake level rises and falls (b) the rate of this rise and falls also varies - you can detect this by sight and comparing to major dates such as Memorial Day, 4th July etc.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: bubby 6/10/2019 8:44:56 AM (No. 94914)
FTA "Climate scientists can blame anything they want on global warming. The climate models are imprecise enough that no matter what is happening they can point to it as proof that man-made climate change is happening. Too much rain, too little rain, bitterly cold winters, mild winters, more snow, less snow, rising water levels, falling water levels — they can attribute “climate change” as a cause of it all." Exactly! The water level of the Great Lakes like our climate are not static, never have been never will be! There is climate change but man has absolutely no demonstrable effect on it. This is the biggest scam since the 1970's global cooling scam!
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All 6/10/2019 9:17:44 AM (No. 94946)
There is an old web site where somebody started collecting stories about all the predictions and such related to globull warming. The list is very extensive, and you can see where globull warming / climate change is listed as responsible for contradictory events, such as making the sea both more and less saline at the same time. It apparently has not been updated for some time. There is a note towards the bottom of the page where the original site creator admits that he is overwhelmed trying to keep up with all the fake news stories that are available. http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Rumblehog 6/10/2019 9:27:40 AM (No. 94955)
The Great Lakes' mere existence refutes Globaloney Science. There was a massive Ice Age at one time in North America then, without a single human occupied city being in existence yet, the ice began to melt. An ice dam that had built-up over thousands of years was over 200 feet high, and when it gave way, a torrent of water flowed from Indiana to Oregon. Ripples in the land can be seen from the air stretching over North Dakota and Montana. Boulders as big as small houses originating from the Midwest can be found along the coast of Washington. If scientists can figure out what happened then they could solve a real riddle that could predict our future... but today the crap they pass off as "science" can't even predict the noonday temperature in Tierra del Fuego tomorrow.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Clinger 6/10/2019 9:50:15 AM (No. 94980)
Yup just one more data point. We need to keep a running list, trotting them out one at a time doesn't do much. It's the pattern that tells the story as well as the pattern of behavior on the part of the eco-fascists who don't behave consistent with the beliefs which they are selling.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: HotRod 6/10/2019 10:29:34 AM (No. 95028)
The trouble with many believers is that they accept the results generated from models. Anyone familiar with statistics and models is aware that a desired result can be easily obtained. Manipulation of statistics is nothing new, and has been going on since recorded history began. People who want to believe in climate change will believe the fraudsters, without questioning their motives.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 6/10/2019 10:35:03 AM (No. 95031)
Indeed, #2, #3, and #4. There is more truth to the global control (new world order) idea than most people realize. George Karlin's skit about global warming puts it out there - "... tonight's forecast, dark followed by widely scattered light in the morning" and highlights the fakery of the lefts climate change schtick.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Strike3 6/10/2019 10:51:16 AM (No. 95044)
The many articles listed that cite scientists in contradiction to each other prove that these people are talking through their sphincters and are attempting to shock us into giving them more grant money. The lakes were getting lower but the ocean was rising. Now, horrors, the lakes are rising again. The Antarctic ice is melting but a research vessel became embedded in the ice for an entire season. These predictions are further proof that the more one lies the harder it is to keep the lies consistent and believable. It's even harder when the temperature keeps going up and down - like it has been for centuries. Admit it climate scientists, you chose the wrong field and now must resort to trickery to make a living.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Krause 6/10/2019 10:57:08 AM (No. 95048)
These lefty scientists keep tripping over their own ‘hockey sticks.’
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Reply 19 - Posted by: WesternTradition 6/10/2019 11:17:05 AM (No. 95068)
I don't follow Soviet Science, especially when it pertains to groupthink like AGW.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: NotaBene 6/10/2019 11:22:57 AM (No. 95070)
America has been the last bastion of truth in Global Warming. The Academies of Science, the Communist-organized Union of Concerned Scientists, the UN and even the Pope have been preaching false science for political purposes. Thank you President Donald J. Trump for withdrawing America from the disastrous Paris Climate Accord. He won my re-election vote just based on the Paris decision. MAGA
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Reply 21 - Posted by: ROLFNader 6/10/2019 1:44:14 PM (No. 95150)
Come and wake me up when NOAA can forecast the weather more than 72 hours into the 'future'.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: jlw509 6/10/2019 2:52:36 PM (No. 95197)
OP and #7, great article --- but don't be too quick in equating politically manipulated, Lysenko-level pseudoscience with "Faith" or "Religion." Real religion, like real science, begins with an honest reporting, called in religious literature "testimony": 1 John 1:1-3 What was from the beginning, What we have heard, what we have seen with our eyes, what we have looked upon and touched with our hands... We now proclaim to you..." Observation and the honest observer. What conforms diligently to this, is the basis of both Science and Religion, both of which have the same Author and both of which need an intelligent witness. What does not conform this is ideology, superstition, charlatanry--- current exhibit, Global Climate Crisis.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: franq 6/10/2019 6:15:34 PM (No. 95326)
The Great Lakes reveal a fatal lie in "Climate Science". Change your story; the lofos won't notice but we will. And we are stronger.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: MickTurn 6/10/2019 6:18:24 PM (No. 95330)
Using the same "Climate """Scientistscammers""" logic... if you spit in the ocean in N. Carolina it causes a TIDAL WAVE in Europe or Japan depending on the time of day, the Moon and lots of other stuff that has no relation to facts... Nuff Said!
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Reply 25 - Posted by: panther361 6/10/2019 7:45:58 PM (No. 95383)
When there are the number of harpies proclaiming allegiance to the climate doom of the socialists, with a lock on the lame stream media, it's tough to get the critical minds heard. I only hope they tire and self destruct soon.
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