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The Phony Case For Electric Cars

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Posted By: RockyTCB, 6/1/2019 9:46:55 AM

In an editorial published last week, Bloomberg (the news site, not the former mayor) declares that the only way cities can “dramatically improve air quality and extend lives shortened by pollution” is to follow the lead of places like Amsterdam and “ban (non-electric) cars.” “Cities should offer up-front incentives to buy zero-emission cars, for instance, as well as non-financial benefits such as parking vouchers. Higher taxes on petrol and diesel cars — whether via congestion tolls or at the pump — will encourage drivers to switch and offset some of the costs of the transition,” the editorial board says.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Marjbaldwin 6/1/2019 9:58:10 AM (No. 88338)
The minute electric cars become the dominant brand, the Greens (Reds) will begin screeching that electric cars are bad for the environment and are contributing to catastrophic climate change. They don't want "sustainable" technology, they want no technology.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Cindiana 6/1/2019 10:01:51 AM (No. 88340)
It's infuriating to see these vehicles plugged in where others foot the bill. I saw one in my elderly mom's senior facility in the parking garage. That means my mom, who has no car, is absorbing the cost. Also saw a hybrid plugged into an auditorium loading zone area of a State university complex. That means taxpayers are absorbing that cost. I'm beyond fed up with this hypocritical nonsense.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: southernboy 6/1/2019 10:05:07 AM (No. 88346)
Everyone knows the air in cities is self-contained and electric cars will indeed improve air quality. Now if the air in cities was just part of the atmosphere......not so much. Spit in the ocean, so to speak! s/
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Reply 4 - Posted by: franq 6/1/2019 10:09:56 AM (No. 88350)
My company is banking on this farce. In fact, I designed a die to stamp contacts that go into charging cables used by Tesla and soon Ford. Wish I could say I was enthused...
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Reply 5 - Posted by: john56 6/1/2019 10:31:04 AM (No. 88373)
And where does that electricity come from? Primarily fossil fuels. What a bunch of maroons. Hybrid cars aren't a bad idea but purely electric cars are pretty dumb.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: HotRod 6/1/2019 11:21:46 AM (No. 88432)
The over-populated, congested, big cities tend to suffer more air pollution, and may benefit from small electric city cars, but the rest of America has clean air and more miles to travel. The trouble is that if the cities were to go all-electric vehicles they may clean up their little bubble, but it would just transfer the problem to the areas hosting power plants. Those plants would have to produce even more electricity to feed the hungry cities. If every big city would build it's own nuclear power plants, they could solve their problem. The Navy uses small, compact nuclear power plants in submarines and ships, and have for many years. Every borough in New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles and the rest of the big cities could have their own.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: GO3 6/1/2019 11:54:16 AM (No. 88464)
You’re wrong #5. Everyone knows electricity comes from the outlet.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Starboard_side 6/1/2019 11:59:20 AM (No. 88473)
Of course, the best possible user of electric vehicles is the United States Post office, where their delivery vehicles all run in short, condensed routes. They could install the charging stations at each post office too. However, they are purchasing new gasoline powered trucks. Go figure. And, that purchase decision was likely made years ago. Wonder why they didn't go electric?
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Reply 9 - Posted by: DVC 6/1/2019 12:07:32 PM (No. 88481)
Current cars with catalysts are extremely clean, put out very, very, VERY little pollution. The electric car scam is just that, a scam.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: aasilver 6/1/2019 12:11:17 PM (No. 88486)
One of the most stupidest ideas ever. Tourism will disappear in those cities and businesses will leave those cities and the cities will be left with the homeless and no tax base. Liberalism is truly a mental disorder.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter 6/1/2019 12:46:16 PM (No. 88526)
Imagine the generating capacity required to power a nation of electric vehicles. Twice today's capacity? Three times? Ten times? California already forces businesses to reduce power consumption during the summer, which brings to mind another vexing scene - the company I work for turns out lights and moves some production to the back shift while the EV drivers are allowed to continue plugging in to the side of the building. It makes no sense. And I don't buy that UM study that equates CO2 from coal burned to power an EV with emissions from a 29-MPG vehicle. In terms of energy, a gallon of gasoline is comparable to about 8 pounds of coal but that's before the losses incurred (and they're huge) converting the heat produced by the burning coal to mechanical energy to generate the electricity needed to run an EV. Internal combustion is much more efficient.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: bad-hair 6/1/2019 1:03:49 PM (No. 88547)
Hang on. You guys are getting too wound up. Don't you realize that everybody will recharge their car at night? Oooops, no solar. This is getting complicated, so let's just leave it up to government experts.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: JHHolliday 6/1/2019 3:05:45 PM (No. 88614)
I have a friend who bought one of those little 'Smart Cars'. He says he likes it but just found out battery replacement is $24,000. It's also tiny....not much bigger than a golf cart. Hit anything substantial and you will have to be buried in zip-lock baggies. The energy used and pollution emitted in manufacturing the batteries probably exceeds any benefits those things produce. One of these days technology may make EV's a rational choice but it's years away.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Ronaldus Magnus 6/1/2019 3:53:17 PM (No. 88651)
Last summer I witnessed one of my favorite electric car scenes. One of the expensive $100,000+ Tesla's was driving near me on a Sacramento California freeway. It was about 100° in the afternoon, and this Tesla had ALL THE WINDOWS down. More than likely they could not use the air conditioner, as that would use up the precious energy BEFORE they arrived home. When my wonderful gasoline powered car needs more energy, I just find one of thousands of stations to 're-energize' my car! What a concept!! A few years ago I witnessed the same phenomenon in a town near Palm Springs. Down there it was 120°, and a large Tesla had ALL the windows down as it raced down the street at, at least, 90 mph. At 120°, unless the driver was trying to experience a sauna, I believe he probably could not turn on the air conditioning and make it home. When they state 300 miles per full charge of the batteries, they do not mention that the mileage per charge reduces SIGNIFICANTLY when one turns on, well, just about anything. The lights, radio, moving the windows up & down. The grand energy sucker of them all has to be the air conditioning. God bless hydrocarbons!
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Reply 15 - Posted by: bad-hair 6/1/2019 4:26:22 PM (No. 88664)
Zacklt #14 And it works the same way in COLD weather. Every 10 degrees below zero cuts you range in half and that's if you're NOT running your heater. Then again there's a sucker born every minute and lately I think their being born in batches.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: bad-hair 6/1/2019 4:27:46 PM (No. 88667)
OOOPS hate it when that happens. They're being born etc.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: janjan 6/1/2019 5:36:13 PM (No. 88711)
Not only do these cars require electricity which is produced from fossil fuels but they also run on lithium batteries. 90% of the worlds lithium supply comes from China.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly 6/1/2019 5:39:25 PM (No. 88713)
#1 The minute electric cars become the dominant brand there will be an outcry to tax drivers by the mile because of the lost gas tax revenue.
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