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Posted By: Big Bopper, 6/18/2026 8:49:58 AM

Donald Trump did the right thing in Iran, for a while. He buried their enriched uranium under hundreds of feet of dirt and rock. He destroyed for years their ability to enrich more of the stuff. He made a lot of headway in crimping their ballistic weapons. He showed others in and around the Persian Gulf that the Iranians are bad guys. But then he stopped. We’d already lost, um, just about no soldiers, but there was a possibility that we might lose some. He stopped because he believed, correctly, that Americans were tired of the war.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: mc squared 6/18/2026 9:13:56 AM (No. 2117934)
After Trump?
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Reply 2 - Posted by: bpl40 6/18/2026 9:14:40 AM (No. 2117935)
"..What Trump fails to understand is that the Iranians are principled thieves" I sincerely doubt that. Trump is a consummate politician. What he understand is that politics is the art of the possible. Look at what has been achieved. 1. Iran has formally agreed never to pursue or attempt to acquire a nuclear weapon. 2. They have agreed to unobstructed international inspections.3. They have agreed to opening of Hormuz. The 'opening' before the war was because Iran was being appeased and didn't need to close it.4. Their borders nad skies are open to US and Israeli air forces. Which was unthinkable before the war.5. All the benefits accruing to Iran are performance based. After the election Trump has no restrictions. And the Iranians know it. This is vastly different from the 0bama agreement.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: montwoodcliff 6/18/2026 9:20:41 AM (No. 2117937)
I have to part ways here with Glenn Beaton. I guess we should have wiped out 80,000,000 people. We can still do that though, if we have to. We could charge Iran reparations, like the Allies did to Germany in WWI. How did that work out? After WW2, we took a different approachand gained two allies. Eventually we won the Cold War. Trump knows this and he is looking far down the road. If those Muslim fools step out of line, they are doomed, unless we get some air head Democrat for President at some point down the road. In the meantime, enjoy your cheaper gas and coming low inflation.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: valinva 6/18/2026 10:01:45 AM (No. 2117945)
Yeah Glenn, losing the mid-terms and giving control of the Senate and the House is much better than putting boots on the ground and losing a couple thousand US soldiers in a war that would last for years. What Glenn and the others complaining about the deal don't understand is that Trump knows exactly who the Iranians are and that they will break their word at some point. That's why he reserves the right to bomb the hell out of them in future whenever they do break the agreement. He is also not giving them any money or releasing their assets immediately. They will be released as Iran proves that they are living up the agreement.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Quigley 6/18/2026 10:03:58 AM (No. 2117947)
I think it is too early to perform a postmortem. The MoU is not even a framework, not a first step, maybe not a preliminary step. I watch Mahyar Tousi on Tousi TV. Mahyar was born in Tehran, fled to the UK in 2003, and his father still lives in Iran. He seems to have a deep knowledge of the Middle East, and holds the strong opinion that the IRGC cannot survive but that it may take a year for its demise. It seems logical that the regime will not survive. I don't know what the USA's and the World's reaction would be if the regime starts wholesale murder of protestors. I don't know the power struggles and perhaps ideological struggles that may be going on inside the regime. Also, I'm of the belief that total decimation would have created too large a humanitarian crisis, and if the seeds of the regime's destruction have already been sown, why do that? And if that is in fact necessary, we should at least give the current state of facts time to play out, and wait until after the Midterms to bomb more.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: seamusm 6/18/2026 10:12:43 AM (No. 2117951)
Long-term success in this conflict depends upon keeping the Dims out of power. Any setback will allow them to loudly rally their sycophants to claim anew that the whole conflict was wastefully unnecessary. And setbacks should be expected given the nature of Iran's form of Islam - an especially malevolent form of the 'religion of peace'. We of the GOP MUST not allow our internal disagreements to open the door for a DimoTwit return to control of our US Congress.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: philsner 6/18/2026 10:12:53 AM (No. 2117952)
Trump constantly proves the scribblers wrong, but that was last week, right?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: simpleman 6/18/2026 11:51:40 AM (No. 2117991)
... plant a lemon tree in the middle of a lime tree orchard and eventually you get another lime tree ... Glenn's a conservative living out his life in Mecca for the elites
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Reply 9 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 6/18/2026 1:00:29 PM (No. 2118009)
I notice that many of the people complaining about the MOU wouldn't have sons, daughters, and friends slaughtered or maimed in endless ground wars like Afghanistan and Iraq. If the Iranian people want freedom, they need to fight for it instead of waiting for the U.S. to give it to them. Maybe then they'll appreciate it enough to keep it instead of handing it right back to the despots after we leave like they did in Afghanistan.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: J. Arthur Brown 6/18/2026 1:47:42 PM (No. 2118016)
As subsequent events in Vietnam proved, Lyndon Johnson's intuition that we should not be sending American troops abroad to do what the locals should be doing for themselves was correct. Iran's enriched uranium was a clear threat to the United States is now buried under several tons of rubble and any attempt to recover it will be damned obvious. Regime change would be nice for the Iranian people and Iran's neighbors to have but in the absence of any evident effort by those beneficiaries to accomplish it there is no reason to sacrifice American lives to achieve it.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: davew 6/18/2026 2:48:34 PM (No. 2118030)
The MOA is a realistic interim step in a process that will take years to complete. The central goal of stabilizing oil markets and lowering gas prices by "opening the Strait of Hormuz" was negotiated by allowing the Iranians to cash their checks from the Chinese. That's all it actually did. Everything after that is TBD based on payments for actual performance. All these critics expected this to be just a summer blockbuster war movie with a dramatic ending in which the good guys win the war, and the bad guys lose. That's Hollywood, not the real world. JD Vance articulated this succinctly and with tact in his news conference today. This is a process of tightening the economic screws on Iran to get what we want: access to the nuclear material and a permanent inspection protocol. Either Iran agrees, or the money dries up. The 60 days are how long we are willing to wait for a demonstration of their sincerity. My sense is that the real fighting has not yet started.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: FormerDem 6/18/2026 8:12:15 PM (No. 2118134)
He hasn't stopped. He has got 60 days for all those ships in the Strait of Hormuz to leave, and if they have any sense, never return. All those sailors go home. Price of oil drops for everyone and for much of the world that is really important. But he is hovering there and ready to start bombing again if the IRGC does not "implement" the MOU meaning inter alia discuss exactly about getting rid of their uranium. Ready to start again if they will not. Yes we could have bombed them into submission but we do want to kill all those normal Iranians. Trump is using carrot and stick both and has not forgotten the rest of the world, not forgotten those sailors, not forgotten the |Iranians. .... nobody else cared about that stuff but he remembered all of it..... And he has given up not one thing. Not actually. All of it depends on good behavior by the IRGC. If they won't, we bomb them again. We shall bomb them in their houses, we shall bomb them on their beaches...
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Reply 13 - Posted by: lakerman1 6/18/2026 9:31:11 PM (No. 2118149)
I am not comfortable with this deal. I have been uncomfortable with some of DJTs previous deals. Each time I have been uncomfortable, I have been wrong.I will wait to see what happens on this one. I'm sure there are favorable elements to this deal that have eluded me entirely.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: mifla 6/19/2026 9:23:49 AM (No. 2118321)
If Trump bombed Iran back to the stone age, he would be criticized for being a war monger and we would see pictures of orphans on the TV every night. If he stops the war and signs a peace treaty, he is criticized for caving into Iran. He is smart enough and confident enough not to listen to all the naysayers. Compared to all of his predecessors, he has worked miracles.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: anniebc 6/19/2026 10:24:19 AM (No. 2118356)
Hey Glenn, where are thine advisers?
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