Can the Reiner family tragedy ever be explained?

Yes, if you believe the Bible. Not a popular idea, I know.

Yoga at age 8 with the family? And he was "disriptive"? Seriously...? That was a sign of what he was going tg become? 8 year old boys are not known for being happy doing yoga. I don't believe he was the misfit.

FTA: "Is there a lesson for us all within this horrific familial catastrophe?" For most of us, thank God, no. I can't speak for dysfunctional celebrity/political leftist Democrat families.

Irony or chickens coming home to roost?

No loving parent "gives up" on a troubled child; but it occurs to me that the Reiners were listening to the wrong advisors. At some point (18 times in rehab????) "helping" becomes "enabling." Nick needed to be cut loose. If he was truly brain damaged, it would have become readily apparent. If not, he might have straightened himself out. This is sad on so many levels.....

He obviously should have been in an institution. Are there even any out there anymore? Some people are mentally ill with no cure. He seems like one of those. We have a big problem in our country with this. Most of the people like him are on the streets now.

Poor parenting. Next question?

Since this double murder happened, I have been haunted by it, not being able to understand it. The Reiners did everything they could for wayward son Nick. Eighteen unsuccessful trips to rehab would seem to be insanity by pointless repetition, but what else was available? Prison? Kidnapping and forcing into rehab like a mafia chief's son? Most parents wouldn't go for that. The Fifth Commandment tells us to honor our father and our mother. Most of us, who love (or loved) our parents without reservation, wouldn't dream of harming the two people who loved us the most and brought us up. Rob Reiner's politics, particularly since the advent of the political Trump in 2015, were especially odious. His hatred of Trump was palpable. He openly slandered Trump at every opportunity. I didn't like what Trump said after Reiner's death, but, like Ms. McCarthy, I understand. Trump's been figuratively fired at, literally fired at, and actually hit. At some point, enough of that! But after what happened to Nick's parents, it's not politics that we're down to. It's something much more personal than that. Nancy Grace pointed out that Nick planned and carried out the crime, making it first degree murder. Two murders in California make it murder with special circumstances. Even a very creative lawyer (which Nick has) will have a tough time arguing for insanity. Nick wasn't insane, just evil. He won't be back.

First of all, I don't understand why this is repeatedly being referred to as a tragedy. It was deliberate cold bloodied murder. Tragedy suggests fate was a player. It wasn't. Secondly, has there been a frank airing of the possibility that the Reiners' extreme Left, woke world view played a part in how they brought up their children and THAT perhaps had something to do with it?

People on heavy drugs can be violent and unpredictable. I have family experience with this but thank God a much better end story of healing and redemption. And yes, it can happen even with good parenting. I have no idea what the Reiners’ actual family dynamics were, but it is still a horrifying tragedy. Politically Rob Reiner was poisonous and I had no respect for him but I would not wish him dead.

If you have enough money, you can cover for a lot of failings. If Nick was not born to wealthy parents, he might have overdosed years ago and well, no more problems for Nick and his parents. Or not having access to the family wealth, he would be living on the streets like so many others who lack his financial resources. I don't recall Rob Reiner ever commenting on social media about the tragedy of all the fentanyl, etc flooding this country and how President Trump was trying to stop its entry into the US. Sorry but no sympathy from me for the Reiner family.

Rehab 18 times? I have not read anymore that Nick Reiner spent any time in a mental facility. There are long term facilities, but you have to have money. The mental asylums that we knew of are long gone. Maybe the Reiners didn't like the stigma of one of their sons having a mental illness and preferred the more accepted drug addiction diagnosis. Oh, and you can't cure a mental illness with yoga techniques but that's Hollyweird for you.

For some people, treatment just makes them feel more positive about themselves and their disorder.

#9: That, and chronically referring to evil deeds as "accidents", is the way the Media Left constantly tries to separate people from their accountability.

frankly ,ALL parents are not in shock ..something to ponder , yes .But , not shock .

He “disrupted their yoga sessions”? I think a couple of swift kicks to his backside would have been in order. Maybe some judicious corporal punishment in his younger days would have straightened him out. That, and giving him a choice between drug use and having a family to support him. “Difficult child”, my arse. He had a fool for a father. They don’t deserve any sympathy.

Explanation? The trial should spread some light.

I get the impression the Reiners "did everything they could" by throwing money at the problem, to hire experts to determine what the problem was. This is typical Hollywood Leftist pandering. They hire all the right people to say all the right things and find all the answers they want to hear.

Rumor that family had child abuse for at least 2 generations. I thought it was odd how Carl Reiner kissed Rob on his lips.

Terrible no matter how you look at it. Nick Reiner did not attack randomly or attack his friends or siblings. This tells you all you need to know. No one goes to rehab 18 times without emotional consequences. Nick Reiner’s journey is all too common, but they don’t end in homicide. Something was going here,

I have a nephew like Nick. Even as a child he was scattered brained and always running about. The summer he was sixteen he was "hired" to help Grandpa with the yard work. (I think my sister paid him to help Dad.) I was visiting one day when the nephew was "helping" and asked Dad how it was going. Dad rolled his eyes and said, "He's hopeless." At that moment we both saw him trying to get the ladder out the side gate, without propping open the gate first. It was like a Laurel and Hardy routine. He went through Cal State Chico drunk and stoned but ended up with a degree in Geography. He grew pot in his dorm room for the entire four years. He was totally drunk and stoned on his graduation day. He decided he wanted to be a fisherman and got a job working the squid boats. The pay was good, and he did two seasons. With that money he began renting a series of houses where he grew and sold pot. He had an endless stream of girlfriends. When they legalized pot in California, he was out of business. My sister began to subsidize him, paying the rent on a house for him. He had a psychotic episode two Christmas' ago. He was arrested and sentenced to rehab. It didn't work. He began living with my sister and becoming more erratic. One night during a fight with her he swung back his fist, but instead of hitting her, he hit the kitchen cabinet next to her head. My sister still allowed him to live with her, until she had a stroke a year ago and is now in assisted living. He squatted inside my sister's home for seven months. He wouldn't leave until he got his "inheritance" out the family trust. My niece and my sister's lawyer had to do some back-flips to give him $7,000 to leave. Over the last year he keeps popping up; even breaking into my sister's house and ransacking it when my niece was fixing things up to rent it...in order to pay for their mother's assisted living. I got an email from him one day that he was at my subdivision's highway gate. He wanted me to come and let him in. I replied that he was not welcome here. As a Thanksgiving gift to his sister, he made a police report accusing her of elder abuse. The Monday after the holiday she had two plain-clothes detectives knocking on her door. It didn't take long for them to confirm my sister's residence in a (very high-end) assisted living facility. The Reiner family tragedy could have been/be my family. Despite Rob's toxic political rhetoric, he didn't deserve to die at the hands of his own son. Our society has to seriously confront the issue of long-term, chronic mental illness. We need asylums again.

It is really quite simple. Meathead was an out of control Leftist, as was his wife. That HATE was obviously fed to their son every day, week, month, year of his life. Once Meathead went ballistic on his son, all the HATE Meathead put into his son's head exploded, and he took out his parents. Any Questions? As far as I'm concerned, the Son should get a Medal for taking care of his Twisted Leftist Parents! Those of you that show 'respect' for Meathead and Wife, you're wasting your sympathy. Wake up and realize those people were NOT worth any sympathy.

It's called mental illnesss. If he had used a gun to shoot them, the leftist mod would be screaming gun control. We all know people kill not guns. This mentally ill person used a knife. If we still had mental institutions, maybe the Reiners would still be alive. If they had taken their children to church, maybe they could have really helped him. Instead, they raised him in a wealthy, greedy, self motivated community where celebrities lived and spent most of their time on liberal causes and trashing Pres. Trump.. He was raised to hate anyone who did not agree with the left Socialists. Go figure.

Not likely, he has a VERY high-priced attorney who will control the narrative and access. The ONLY reason the death of Rob Reiner is getting the news coverage it has, he was VERY politically connected. Ever since his Prop. 10 passage that helped funnel 50 cents per pack onto cigarettes that helped provide massive amounts of funding for "the children". Afterwards every major Democrat was clamoring for his attention and help (he had a large donor list). He became an influential power broker in Democrat circles. He helped finance the TDIP (The Democracy Integrity Project) that essentially pushed stories to congressional staff and journalists simply to keep the story alive in the media. This despite him likely aware, due to his political connections and position, knowing the Russia collusion story was bogus but it was part of the "get Trump" scheme. As a result, Congress wasted countless hours, large amounts of time and millions of dollars.

The story is not that uncommon. The killing is, but with the self-absorbed people who put their careers and their public persona above their family, it is not. The Reiners had the bucks to put their kid into a long-term mental healthcare facility, and did not need a state-run asylum. I imagine it had more to do with parental image than the lack of a facility. These people build themselves up by casting their families into roles to be played (intentional.) Think of the numerous celebrities who, and their children, have suffered from these same issues. There is virtue and sympathy to be gained for celebrities from having children in the crisis of the times, such as drug addiction. Mental illness, as the psychologist suggests, runs in the bloodlines, a not-so-glamorous defect. Look at the current crop of trans children, now that's something that will get you into the most elite clubhouses. I feel for Nick, he didn't have a chance.

The kid was a psycho drug addict. End of story.

There is no cure for real mental illness. There are lots of meds that can control a person and if they take it as prescribed, they function okay. It's those who 'hate the way it makes me feel' that are the problem. They don't like taking them and some are so far gone they doubt they need them. Nick was mentally ill and his dad wasn't too normal either. A recipe for disaster. And all the bibles and tough love in the world can't fix it. Instead of putting him in a mental facility, and the best of course because they could afford it, they played the rehab game and it was obvious it was never going to work. I did not like Reiner but no one deserves to be killed like that by their own child.

Betcha they never spanked him. Spankings certainly kept me in line as a child.

I am afraid that there are small number of children who were just wired wrong from birth. Sure, good parenting and good treatment can help but sometimes even that doesn't work. Nobody is really aware of what went on in the Reiner household. A kid with mental problems combined with the availability of mind-altering substances with plenty of money to buy them, can rapidly go off the deep end. I know a couple, a very decent, intelligent couple who tried most everything for their son. The son eventually got sent to prison for a short stay for selling drugs. A couple of days after his release, he fatally overdosed. It's why I delight seeing the narco boats lit up like roman candles. I know it's our citizens' fault for making the drug trade so profitable but we don't have to make it easy for them

It was announced this morning that the Reiner lad had been diagnosed as schizophrenic. That means he lived in his own false reality. Drugs may not have caused him to kill his parents. He might have believed they were about to kill him. Killing them was a preemptive rational action to the Reiner lad.

That's a dumb question. Of course it can.

Piiiiss poor parenting.