Revenge or Justice?
American Greatness,
by
Victor Davis Hanson
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Posted By: earlybird,
7/24/2025 9:13:46 PM
Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard just released a trove of apparently once-classified documents—with promises of much more to follow. The new material describes the role of the Obama administration’s intelligence and investigatory directors—purportedly along with President Obama himself—in undermining the 2016 Trump presidential campaign. In addition, their efforts extended to sabotaging the 2016-2017 presidential transition and, by extension, the first three years of the Trump presidency. The released documents add some new details to what over the last decade has become accepted knowledge.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Mcscow sailor 7/24/2025 9:34:53 PM (No. 1982126)
Justice is sweeter with a side of revenge
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Jiobaobubai 7/24/2025 10:06:12 PM (No. 1982128)
In a world with no justice, getting actual justice IS revenge.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Encore 7/24/2025 10:11:53 PM (No. 1982129)
There should be severe consequences for the actions taken. It’s outright treasonous. If people aren’t made to suffer consequences, what’s to stop it from becoming the norm…a precedent will have been set. Not about revenge, it’s about maintaining a just society. Jail everyone associated.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
jasmine 7/25/2025 12:29:53 AM (No. 1982147)
Politicians and unelected bureaucrats appropriated the resources of the federal government to prevent a citizen they didn't like, Donald Trump, from successfully running a campaign against Hillary Clinton. After Trump won his first term, Democrats began treating the American people like we need their APPROVAL to elect the president of our choice. For whose who have yet to figure out what was going on with Dems, RINOs and the press since 2016, the documents are there for all to read. We still have dirty politicians continuing to treat our President, and the American people like they need PERMISSION to deport criminal aliens from our soil. The problem is neither the President, nor the American people. The problem is corrupt politicians who have been around for too long, trying to protect their "turf" and acting in the best interests of Biden's imported criminals. If we want to be treated better, we must remind the politicians they work for US, not the other way around.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Lucky5 7/25/2025 12:37:36 AM (No. 1982149)
This article feels like it cut off and just stopped mid thought for VDH. I think we will hear more on this subject from him.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 7/25/2025 2:51:27 AM (No. 1982160)
FTA: "Obama, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, and others will likely never face legal consequences for the damage they’ve done to our institutions and foreign policy."
True, but the Lord Almighty has definite opinions regarding the moral character and personal integrity of a nation's leaders, all of which are lacking with this rogues' gallery of political apparatchiks. The judgement they should fear most of all is that of the Lord Jesus Christ.
President Trump should eventually STOP all payments to fund the building of the Obama Ego Project near downtown Chicago otherwise known as the "Obama pResidential Lie-brary." Without taxpayer funding that gargantuan private penthouse on Lake Michigan will be too expensive to maintain and operate. Besides, who's gonna wanna pay gobs of bucks to visit his place after all this?
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
NotaBene 7/25/2025 3:12:39 AM (No. 1982163)
This is what the CIA does.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Strike3 7/25/2025 6:07:17 AM (No. 1982179)
Barack Obama was, is, and will always be a conniving weasel. I can't believe that so many people fell for this lying, un-American manipulator who attempted to bring this country down but only made us stronger. The joke is on him.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
philsner 7/25/2025 7:55:30 AM (No. 1982222)
Both. Delicious.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
udanja99 7/25/2025 9:26:49 AM (No. 1982261)
Both. And for those with TDS who will squawk that it’s only revenge - so what? Given what Trump and we have endured for the last 9 years, revenge is perfectly acceptable.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
earlybird 7/25/2025 11:35:25 AM (No. 1982327)
His article closes with this:
"Obama, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, and others will likely never face legal consequences for the damage they’ve done to our institutions and foreign policy.
But that does not mean they should be exempt from an ongoing and disinterested effort to find and finally expose the whole truth."
In other words, "don't give up", "don't let this drop"...
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
FLCracker 7/25/2025 12:27:37 PM (No. 1982348)
#1, how right you are.
I worked with a sergeant with whom I did not get along. (I thought she had been promoted a couple of grades beyond her competence and suspected she had mental problems. OTOH, she swung back and forth between effusive praise on how much I helped her and accusing me of undermining her career.)
Something she said during all this led me to, fairly easily, discover hard evidence that she was defrauding the government. I knew if I did not report what I had found, I would be considered derelict in my duty and also libel. I knew people were going to think I was seeking revenge on her. I reported what I had found to my superior officers and left them to decide what further action to take.
I had nothing more to do with it, other than provide testimony at her court-martial. (Upshot: Reduced in rank two grades, bar to reenlistment and some sort of forfeiture of pay and fines.)
Yeah, some people said it was revenge (more were happy to see she go.) But in a way, they were right, because although I was doing what I had to do, and she suffered for it, as #1 says, "Justice is sweeter with a side of revenge."
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
FLCracker 7/25/2025 12:45:47 PM (No. 1982359)
Dang it! A typo.
Should read: "(more were happy to see her go.)"
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