CA Supreme Court ruling will change how
police interact with public when stopping, questioning
ABC News,
by
Anser Hassan
Original Article
Posted By: sunset,
5/3/2024 10:23:42 PM
A new ruling by the California Supreme Court may change how police interact with the public.
Community groups say it's an important step to prevent over-policing.
But some police unions say it's going to make it harder for police to work effectively.
"I think it's a very important decision," says Sujung Kim, a managing attorney at the San Francisco Public Defender's Office.
She says with this ruling, the Supreme Court of California is finally recognizing instances of over-policing -- especially in communities of color.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
sunset 5/3/2024 10:37:03 PM (No. 1711622)
LA Times has a much more complete article, which that may involve a paywall.
Some salient facts from that story:
According to the ruling, Officer Daniel Guy later testified that Flores “acted ‘suspicious(ly)’ by ‘attempting to conceal himself from the police’ and then ‘pretend(ing) to tie his shoe.‘”
As the officers patted down Flores, the lights on the Nissan blinked — which they assumed was because their frisk had pushed a key fob in Flores’ possession. An officer said that when he shined his light in the car he saw “what looked like a drug pipe.” The officers entered the vehicle and allegedly found a folded dollar bill containing methamphetamine and a revolver in a backpack.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Scribelus 5/3/2024 10:43:54 PM (No. 1711624)
Pretty soon now, the only place in the US where it will be easier to be a crook than in California will be Washington DC.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
rememberwhen 5/3/2024 10:44:28 PM (No. 1711625)
Overpolicing? In California? Not likely. No doubt supported by the same groups that support Soros DAs who refuse to prosecute criminals.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
DVC 5/3/2024 11:37:05 PM (No. 1711641)
Criminal ducking down "to tie his shoe".......LOL! Most of those pukes have shoes that can't be tied. I discovered this when I stopped at a Nike outlet store in the SE and was looking at some cheap shoes a number of years ago. Today, I won't even look at Nikes.
But, a good bit of the shoes.....were designed to be worn untied. This confused the hell out of me. They had elastic inside that made them actually 'slip on shoes' but with fake lacing...intended to look like a tie type shoe untied....but not fall off of your foot. The laces were too short to ever tie.
In any case....criminals, getting a court to keep the cops from enforcing the laws. Stupid and WILL Increase crime rates, for certain.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
slipstik 5/3/2024 11:46:35 PM (No. 1711647)
Krazyfornia needs "underpolicing"
That's where the cops all quit their job and walk away. Stop participating in this ever worsening charade of enforcing laws that mean nothing. Anybody should be able to do anything they want, without fear of punishment or consequences. Oh wait... it's already that way. Who needs cops then?
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Strike3 5/4/2024 6:30:11 AM (No. 1711721)
Nowhere in this country is over-policing a problem, especially in communities of color.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
chumley 5/4/2024 6:38:29 AM (No. 1711726)
I agree with the ruling. Lots of things cops do are way over the line. Stopping someone without probable cause at a DUI roadblock is wrong. Stopping someone just for being out and about is wrong. Handcuffing someone without arresting them and calling it "detaining" is wrong. Frisking someone without arrest is wrong. Avoiding contact with police is not suspicious; its self preservation.
Of course they had to ruin the article by adding the "people of color" angle. Its not about race, its about freedom.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Subsuburban 5/4/2024 6:38:53 AM (No. 1711727)
By analogy, I propse the following. Once upon a time there was a boat, in which the passengers noticed that there was a small leak. In order to stop the leak, some of the passengers decided to take turns sticking their finger in the hole through which the water was entering, but some of the other passengers, after noticing this, decided that this wasn't fair, because they didn't want to be required at some point to take their turn in plugging the leak, so they voted to prevent any passengers from doing so. They felt very proud of their democratic policy, but the water then began to enter again, with greated intensity as the leak grew more pronounced. Although some of the passengers became alarmed and wanted to plug the leak again, they were outnumbered. So eventually, the boat sank and all the passengers drowned. Need I present the moral of my tale?
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
ARKfamily 5/4/2024 7:00:21 AM (No. 1711738)
Sorry #7, I disagree. Please allow me to explain with something that happened to me. I was driving home from a restaurant and I had no alcohol. I am not much of a drinker. Well, the road I was travelling on had several potholes and I was trying to avoid them. If I remember correctly, I had a new car so I was pampering it so to speak. Well, I drove past an officer and it looked like I was weaving. The police officer has no idea who I am and if I am a problem to other drivers. He pulled me over and I explained to him and he let me go. I think it is attitude. Police officers are not mind readers and all they may have is a gut feeling that something doesn't seem right. I have encountered many a driver who thinks the road is there for them only.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Petronius 5/4/2024 7:08:22 AM (No. 1711740)
Out here in the suburbs outside of Cleveland, there are a very large number of urban youths stopped, they many times have drugs, guns, no driver's licenses and driving stolen vehicles.
The black community and city media outlets have been complaining heavily that POC are being unfairly targeted by racist law enforcement in the suburbs. I imagine it is only a matter of time before they begin to pass legislation hamstringing law enforcement here.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
FLCracker 5/4/2024 9:32:07 AM (No. 1711808)
Well, if it is legislation coming our of the the Fool's-Golden State, then we should obviously have nothing to do with it.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Kate318 5/4/2024 10:36:22 AM (No. 1711846)
All I know is that I wouldn’t be able to do the job of a police officer. Everything else (to me) is irrelevant. And, I’ve had my share of nasty cops pull me over, but then I do tend to get a little mouthy. Hard to imagine, I know.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
MickTurn 5/4/2024 11:42:15 AM (No. 1711885)
The same old lie. Police arrest criminals from a community of COLOR where a huge majority of People of color live, so it's now discriminatory because they are black...Oh, Duh!
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Do POC commit more crimes percentage wise than non-POC? If so it’s reasonable to suspect that they may have more interactions with the PD.
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