The Decline of Art in Western Culture
Parallels the Decline of Everything of Else
American Thinker,
by
Vince Coyner
Original Article
Posted By: DW626,
12/14/2023 10:12:24 AM
For most of Western history, art was used as a way for patrons to showcase achievements, propagandize citizens, or lionize individuals. Maybe the single greatest artist in human history, Michelangelo, created his greatest works for patrons of various sorts. He created David for the Florentine Guild of Wool, the Pieta for the French ambassador to the Holy See, and the Sistine Chapel and St Peter’s Basilica for popes. Art was, in one way or another, an homage to something greater than its creator.
Fast-forward about three centuries, and the art world begun to change.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
DVC 12/14/2023 11:02:59 AM (No. 1617114)
When I was studying art in college, something that I was surprised to actually enjoy, it became abundantly clear to me that by the 1920s and 30s the "artistic community" had just gone off the rails. When we studied Dali, I thought the 'melted' clocks and such were weird, but OK, "whatever". I rejected, and still reject the crap that Picasso sold as art. Interestingly, I have run across some very early Picasso sketches, and the man actually had some artistic talent. Too bad he wasted it on that garbage that sells for so much money. I wouldn't pay $5 for Guernica, and it is now worth many tens of millions. Bizarre.
And at the time - I didn't much appreciate the art of Van Gogh, although I didn't reject it entirely like Picasso's crap. I have since decided that some of Van Gogh's works (Sunflowers, for example) are pleasant enough, but I still question them being worth the astronomical sums they sell for now.
I have really come to love the work of Monet, and have spent a good deal of time in the museum next to the Louvre for his works, especially just sitting for some quiet, enjoyable time in the oval room where they have his Water Lilies giant paintings, displayed as Monet wished them to be displayed. I just enjoy sitting in that room, scanning the paintings. Very pleasant. If you are in Paris, it's worth your time, IMO.
https://www.ekphrastic.net/uploads/1/4/0/7/14070919/a7fe233f5b15c33b0a753bd870c3d178_orig.jpg
But, most art since about the 1930s or so has just been crap. I worked for an art museum for a number of years doing engineering work assisting in repairs and rebuilding of art objects from Egyptian, to Greek and up to very modern art. And I worked with the chief conservator of the Getty Museum in LA several times, also. One time me as the student, one time him as the student. Arty people are interesting.
I enjoyed the work on the Egyptian and Greek objects, but the modern stuff....more like working on a car or something. A job to be done, do it well, but the object is just a modern thing. Pretend art, I think of it.. I got to meet one "great artist" who had a giant outdoors piece filling the front yard of the museum, and had lunch, discussing his work.
What an air headed weirdo, and probably a faker, too. I think he knew that his stuff was silly, but was laughing all the way to the bank. But, maybe not - he might have believed all the "arty" nonsense he spouted. Either way, that piece of "art" is an extreme pain in the butt to keep from disintegrating when exposed to weather. Lots of work by people like me and some very talented art conservators to make it survive. I have trouble thinking it is worth it in his case, but I just do the engineering that I am paid to do.
Most modern art is, in my opinion, crap. But, that's OK, people should be able to spend THEIR money on what they like. Unlike the left, I have no desire to impress my style on others.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
hershey 12/14/2023 11:12:45 AM (No. 1617126)
Right with the commie playbook...check out the 45 goals of communism...check out items 22 and 23..
https://famguardian.org/Subjects/Communism/Communism/45GoalsOf%20Communism.htm
Read em and weep...we are so far along this stinking path...thanks mostly to democrats...
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
downnout 12/14/2023 11:13:49 AM (No. 1617127)
Nothing compares to the beauty and pathos of The Pieta.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
daisey 12/14/2023 11:33:38 AM (No. 1617140)
When Hunter Bidens fingerpainting sells for hundreds of thousands of dollars, art is a joke. A commodity to seek favor from someone in power. The Sistine Chapel. That is art.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
marbles 12/14/2023 11:41:49 AM (No. 1617144)
# 2 Regarding the value of art , it's worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it.
Guernica , the town that was destroyed in the Spanish Civil War , is meant to convey the horror and chaos of that event. I believe it succeeds.
The classical Greek sculpture and architecture that we see today as beautiful white marble was in its time garishly painted.The centuries wore away the paint.
Anything goes, if you accept it.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
ussjimmycarter 12/14/2023 12:00:46 PM (No. 1617162)
We are in a down period! The ZZZZZOMERS will fix that up for ya!
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
udanja99 12/14/2023 1:04:35 PM (No. 1617194)
I have a degree in fine art along with a minor in art history. I pretty much agree with #2 except on Van Gogh. I think the Impressionists were the last great artists. Everything since has been garbage which just gets worse and worse.
Van Gogh is my absolute favorite. Though tortured by mental illness, he managed to produce a painting a day for years on end. His sketches are wonderful too. A visit to the Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam has been a “must do” every time I have visited that city and each time, I have spent the entire day there. Read a good biography of the man - he was amazing.
My favorite quote - “ “Find things beautiful as much as you can, most people find too little beautiful.”
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
DVC 12/14/2023 1:44:03 PM (No. 1617214)
Re #6, I am well aware of what Picasso says that Guernica depicts, and have examined it a few times, and we studied it in college.
The actual events of Guernica were definitely very ugly and brutal. And I can see that some of the "people" are screaming in the painting.
But, IMO, it is still artless, ugly crap. But, I agree 100% with you that things are worth what people will pay for them. I while remain amazed that people like and pay a lot for Picasso's "art", nevertheless they do. If I had to hang it on my wall, I wouldn't take any of it for free. And I know that is a somewhat outlier opinion. I don't try to stop anyone from loving Picasso, but I certainly can't understand or like it myself.
But, many people like Picasso and many people like beer, I like neither and it's fine with me. I have friends drinking beer while I drink something else, and I pass by the Picasso sections in art museums. To each his own.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
marbles 12/14/2023 2:11:34 PM (No. 1617233)
# 9 It's meant to be ugly . That's what war is. By the way I can't stand Picasso. Rose, blue whatever, no thanks. My taste run towards Turner.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
kono 12/14/2023 3:34:10 PM (No. 1617279)
The Left are dragging the world to a new Dark Age. They got so hysterical about destroying memorials and monuments in some ill-begotten effort to prevent that history from being repeated, apparently oblivious to the irony that they, themselves, are becoming the agents of the repetition this time.
As the creativity tide recedes in preparation for the new Renaissance to follow...
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Venturer 12/14/2023 4:17:20 PM (No. 1617311)
Yes the old artists painted some wonderful works, but we have Hunter Bidens paintings.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
MickTurn 12/14/2023 11:15:03 PM (No. 1617502)
From pure observation, most Art is Flatulence in action.
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