There is a Reason Ron DeSantis Keeps Talking
About Georgia
Conservative Treehouse,
by
Sundance
Original Article
Posted By: earlybird,
7/31/2023 1:46:59 PM
There’s a great inside baseball discussion linked and embedded down below talking about Georgia Republican Politics. However, before getting to that video some background context is needed.
There are states where the professional [GOPe] republican grip is tight, and there are states where the MAGA insurgency has gained strength loosening that corporate club grip. Georgia is a state where the party apparatus is gripping the reins tight and not willing to let the populist movement impede their professional political stranglehold.
Governor Brian Kemp is to Georgia in 2024 as Govenor Haley Barbour was to Mississippi previously.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
moebellini3 7/31/2023 2:54:32 PM (No. 1524509)
It's called politics and it's a dirty game.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Flyball Dogs 7/31/2023 3:07:23 PM (No. 1524523)
I know we LDotters are going to have some lively discussions in the coming months. Among the topics: Sundance, DeSantis, and PDJT.
It does seem that Sundance is a Never DeSantis. However, if you remember back to the Tea Party formation and its attempts to change the status quo, and then focus on DeSantis and who allied with him, it starts to make sense.
The key point here:
“DeSantis is a tool, a vessel for these interests. The absentee Florida governor is not their candidate per se’, because the benefit DeSantis provides is not contained in his winning the 2024 primary, but rather in stopping Donald Trump from winning it.”
Nothing more to say.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 7/31/2023 3:13:19 PM (No. 1524527)
Here we go again. Don't know if what Sundance says is true or not. Much of it sounds true, but how am I to know.
One thing I do know. The rot in our government is far worse than we ever realized. Personally doubt one person can fix it. Nor will politics as usual.
We should not be giving anyone a pass at this point.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Geoman 7/31/2023 6:26:19 PM (No. 1524681)
Perhaps one day, someone, maybe even Sundance, will explain how a trust fund fueled (millionaire by age 8), but otherwise bedrock conservative, a proclaimed paragon of anti-establishment politics, who also happened to be a New York real estate and TV entertainment mogul, became a multi-billionaire.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
judy 7/31/2023 6:37:20 PM (No. 1524693)
Any time I see the word Kemp I turn it OFF!!
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Rinktum 8/1/2023 7:43:43 AM (No. 1524973)
This information does not surprise me. I agree with #2.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
HisHandmaiden 8/1/2023 7:50:00 AM (No. 1524978)
Is there anyone here who actually trusts Ron to do what is best for America?
TBIYTC
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Yuban 8/1/2023 8:26:34 AM (No. 1525004)
The GOP will never be happy, win or lose. You would think they would unite, and defeat Biden, at all costs..... wrong. The Dems are corrupt to the core. The GOP is full of ego-maniacs. Have a blessed day.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 8/1/2023 8:49:22 AM (No. 1525025)
The GOPe circular firing squad is already forming in Georgia. What #2 said.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
nerdowell 8/1/2023 9:33:14 AM (No. 1525065)
#4, You've got the solution inside in your question:
He was lucky enough to be born a millionaire to a family that had already
built an empire in real estate in the New York Boroughs prior to its expansion
from the 1970s through the 90's. Entertainment and media efforts, including the epochal "Art of the Deal"
generated millions overnight for him as well as for anyone in that sector at that time.
Factor in inflation and you have the your explanation.
How did this billionaire become the leader of a populist movement and the representative of the
non-governmental middle class? Again you have the answer: real estate and the inculcation of the protestant
work ethic and love for our country by his parents, first and second generation immigrants. Like many of us, Trump was involved in the family business by the time he was a teenager. Add to that the fact that he was part of the second generation in a family that had consolidated its wealth under the leadership of his father, in other words, he was not a Rockefeller or of old, secure money. Also,
understand that he still strongly identifies with the community he grew up in, is still involved in the New York, New Jersey metropolitan area of his birth, regardless his investments outside the area and his move to Florida. Finally, as an investor in 'real property' and a hands-on builder and developer he is well acquainted with government corruption and waste and the danger it poses to our beloved Constitution..
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
PrayerWarrior 8/1/2023 10:17:23 AM (No. 1525096)
What we've seen from Kemp shows us he's a User. He used President Trump's endorsement when he first ran against Stacy Abrams and barely won the Georgia Governorship with 50,000 votes. Now when (since 2020) he thinks he doesn't need PDJT's support or help, he has turned on him. What a snake!
What is that political saying, "politics makes strange bedfellows"? Well, don't get in bed with Kemp, you may not get out.
Or.......
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
PrayerWarrior 8/1/2023 10:20:55 AM (No. 1525103)
#10 Thank you. A nicely done bio on President Trump who loves this country....First!
MAGA ....MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
tisHimself 8/1/2023 10:27:01 AM (No. 1525112)
How far ahead was Trump before the fraud started on election night?
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Citoyen 8/1/2023 10:31:13 AM (No. 1525116)
The Manichaean view of politics that defines Conservative Treehouse may be moderately useful for the favored candidate but on the whole is limiting since it discards human nature. In this instance President Trump is the Messiah and anyone who runs against him or supports a rival is absolutely evil.
Such an outlook is irrational. Human beings cannot be categorized using such a primitive criterion. There is, for example, no evidence that Ron DeSantis is a stalking horse who serves the so-called global elite. This publication’s attempt to manufacture evidence is incoherent, shrill and circular, rife with paranoia.
I believe President Trump was a very good president and could be great in 2025. At the same time I can cite his many flaws, the biggest being his inability to beat the corrupt, senile and nasty Biden. Yes, he was robbed but he didn’t prevent the theft, leaving the country to be pillaged by the Democrats.
DeSantis obviously speaks more clearly than Trump. He has a strong record of following through on policy. Legislatively he was extremely successful while Trump’s legislative success was puny. Of course compared to Trump he is a bore.
I don’t know for whom I’ll vote in the primary. I do know I’ll vote in the general for whoever wins since I’ll know that person is neither the Messiah nor Lucifer.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
tisHimself 8/1/2023 10:46:48 AM (No. 1525130)
So the issue with Sundance is what? He isn't truthful? Pont it out. Back it up.
or
He says things I don't like about Ron DeSantis and he must be shut up. Glad to see your even handed approach to the first amendment is alive and well.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
LadyVet 8/1/2023 11:13:16 AM (No. 1525159)
Romney always makes me think of that Biblical warning about being lukewarm: "you are neither hot nor cold, and I will spew thee out of my mouth."
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Zigrid 8/1/2023 11:21:14 AM (No. 1525167)
So what are you saying poster #4...President Trump is in the bag for Georgia conservatives...NO man or woman owns President Trump...that's why he scares the cr_____out of the establishment...rats and rino ....he's his own man...and the dirty politicians can't stand it...he can't be bought off...like biden and obama...
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
janjan 8/1/2023 8:59:50 PM (No. 1525446)
DeSantis is on the sidelines waiting to see what happens to Trump. Anyone in his position would be doing the same.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
tisHimself 8/2/2023 11:15:30 AM (No. 1525807)
So if you are standing on a subway watching someone get pummeled, you would stand aside and see what happens?
That's the courage and statesmanship we all admire about Ron Desantis, and his enthusiastic supporters.
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De Santis and Kemp are publicly known to be very tight. No secret. Sharing campaign staff, etc.