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Anybody watching what Obamacare's costs
have been doing lately?

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Posted By: Magnante, 4/3/2022 9:18:46 AM

This wouldn't exactly be news to anyone who has to buy Obamacare health care insurance... But for perspective, here's the latest on the 2010 government health care takeover that had been so vaunted in the press as Your-Government-Here-To-Help: [tweet] The average family health insurance premium in the US has more than tripled since the "affordable" care act was signed into law back in 2010. The biggest beneficiaries: health insurers. United Health Group (the largest US insurer) is up 1,750% vs. a 389% gain for the S&P 500 (snip) So much for President Obama's claim that his signature health care bill would cut insurance costs and everyone would be so grateful and happy.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: RubiconDan 4/3/2022 9:40:21 AM (No. 1118122)
Obamacare has been a socialist disaster from the beginning by forcing middle class families to pay for lower class healthcare for all. My premiums doubled the very first year and my deductibles were $6k per person, which meant that I would pay $20k before the insurance payed a dime. Even then I had co-payments to cover. I immediately switched to a Health share program and haven't looked back. Now I am using a Direct Payment Dr and the Health share program and my costs are very reasonable. Anything the Democrats do is always, always, stupid, agenda driven, mismanaged, and increases big government, bureaucracy, raises taxes, and forces socialism.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: wilarrbie 4/3/2022 9:43:14 AM (No. 1118125)
Well, SOMEbody got to pay for millions of illegals needing health care.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: ARKfamily 4/3/2022 10:02:09 AM (No. 1118143)
#1, I have questions. What is a Direct Payment Dr? I assume this is a doctor that takes direct payments but I don't want to assume. Also, I have never heard of a Health Share program. Please enlighten the users on this thread?!
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Krause 4/3/2022 10:08:46 AM (No. 1118153)
Obama said 'don't underestimate Joe's ability to eff things up.' He was correct, he just forgot to include himself in there with Joe.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: bad-hair 4/3/2022 10:22:53 AM (No. 1118168)
My Medicare supplemental plan premium seems to be growing by 25% a year. As with inflation, the companies can increase the cost or as Axelrod says, take services out. It's the Canadian plan. You can have a free MRI if you can find one.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 4/3/2022 10:36:36 AM (No. 1118183)
Don't get sick. If you do, die quickly. That's Obamacare.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: columba 4/3/2022 10:49:41 AM (No. 1118197)
I am offended by the reference which calls the traitor "president" Obama.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: franq 4/3/2022 10:49:57 AM (No. 1118198)
A racket, a fraud, and a travesty. Paging John Roberts.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: bighambone 4/3/2022 10:54:35 AM (No. 1118201)
Who buys healthcare insurance by way of the Obamacare marketplace? Mostly middle class people who do not have healthcare insurance and who do not qualify for Medicaid or Medicare. Most everyone else who cannot afford to purchase healthcare insurance on the open market is on Medicare, or is on expanded Medicaid. While Medicare recipients must pay a basic premium for their Medicare insurance and another premium if they elect to purchase a so-called Medicare Advantage policy, people who qualify for expanded Medicaid, including illegal aliens, pay no premiums and essentially get “free” healthcare at he expense of Americans who actually do pay taxes.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Strike3 4/3/2022 11:23:03 AM (No. 1118237)
#3, Medishare, as advertised on Hannity and Jimmy Failla talk shows, is one Christian healthcare cost sharing program, with costs based on what subscribers use. I have no information on it's reliability but they seem to promote it. 866-781-3467 or https://www.getmedishare.com/medishare-difference/?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&msclkid=adfb95ac6f2a1d831523f7e5d5a4f70c Direct pay is exactly what it says, direct payment to the doctor without going through an insurance company, doctors, dentists and chiropractors who do that usually charge about half of what you would pay through an insurance company.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: GustoGrabber 4/3/2022 11:34:45 AM (No. 1118244)
1. If the cost of anything is shifted to a third party, the cost goes up. See education, college tuition. 2. Pharmaceutical and health care stocks seem to have done well over the past decade. Huh. 3. Chamber of Commerce republicans represented by Romney ( R-himself) and various never trumpers, have successfully detached employee health insurance for anyone below management. And yet they still manage to shift jobs to Chinese plants, cuz, well, slave labor is cheaper than a plant in Pocatello Idaho.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici 4/3/2022 11:48:54 AM (No. 1118252)
The whole point of Obamacare was to break the American Healthcare system so badly that people would demand a full government takeover.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: ussjimmycarter 4/3/2022 12:03:47 PM (No. 1118259)
United Ealth is the WORST run company that I ever consulted at! After 3 gigs there I told everyone that called for my services that they were off my customer list! And these idiots went up 1,700%? Yea…Gobment!
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Reply 14 - Posted by: DVC 4/3/2022 12:28:24 PM (No. 1118286)
The Completely Unaffordable Care Act. Hellish, absolutely hellish.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: kennedylaw 4/3/2022 12:31:37 PM (No. 1118291)
I have been self-employed for the past 25 years. I liked my insurance before Obamacare but was not allowed to keep it. Our first Obamacare policy was not accepted by any of the doctors or hospitals in the area. We now have an Obamacare policy that is accepted at our local hospital, after we meet our $30K deductible for the year, which we never meet because none our regular doctors accept any insurance. I once went to see the only GP doctor in my area who accepts my insurance so I could get a referral to a specialist who accepts my insurance (you cannot see an in plan specialist unless you first get a referral from an in plan GP) and it was like being in a free clinic in a third world country. We only keep the Obamacare policy as very high priced catastrophic medical insurance. On the plus side, my wife and I can get free birth control under the policy (which we don't need much of since we are in our 60s and my wife hit menopause 15 years ago). Also, if we first get a referral from an in plan GP, we can get free sex change operations.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: DVC 4/3/2022 3:25:36 PM (No. 1118385)
We retired before we were of age for Medicare. It was looking like we were going to spend $1875 a month for the two of us for ZeroCare, with a $6500 deductible before anything was covered. UselessCare. That's $22,500 per year for us. I managed to grab a Pre-Zerocare BC&BS health plan ONE MONTH before the deadline to shut them all down, and it held for the three years we needed it. Better care, $2500 deductible for $650 a month, but "not compliant". I checked, the next year, that same plan that I just barely dodged, was over $30K per year, and the following year at $37K per year. I haven't tracked it since, but it's hellishly unaffordable and those who get the government subsidized plans for $200 a month, THINK that they have "health insurance". They get 4 free doc visits a year, and ANYTHING ELSE is subjected to a $6500 deductible. Most of those people couldn't come up with the money in any possible way, so they really have a very expensive plan that provides four doc visits a year and NOTHING else, AND we make up the difference, tens of thousands of dollar a year, over the piddling amount that they pay. Showalter says "the average premium has tripled"....so that $22,500 annual payment must now be over $65,000 a year. Very few can afford that. Driving everyone to be on welfare, AS THEY INTENDED ALL ALONG.
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