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Those Dirty Electric Vehicles
And A Bolt Of Green Hypocrisy

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Posted By: RockyTCB, 5/26/2021 7:42:43 AM

There is much more to the electric vehicle story than the “EVs good, gasoline- and diesel-powered automobiles bad” narrative we’ve been fed. Truth in advertising would require electric cars to be shown surrounded by the Pig Pen-esque dirty cloud that they kick up. The birthplace of most electric cars is the Democratic Republic of Congo, a country where the diamond trade has helped finance civil war. There, reports the Deseret News, “slave labor” is feeding “big tech’s quest for cobalt,”

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Reply 1 - Posted by: bad-hair 5/26/2021 8:04:17 AM (No. 797048)
Another question is are the world's cobalt reserves enough to build 250 million electric cars and supply 20 years of batteries for each of them ? If the answer is NO then the whole green thing is a road to perdition. When is PEAK cobalt ? Lithium ? Manganese ?
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Clinger 5/26/2021 8:22:28 AM (No. 797070)
Great questions #1. And what about the disposal of spent batteries, how much is recyclable and at what cost in energy consumption? But change doesn't need to leave the country better off to leave 535 people far better off. Any change you can force on the country that you have advanced knowledge of and are part of in the selection of winners and losers, and connections to the winners is highly profitable. It can be a total disaster to the rest of us which of no concern for club 535. Sorry for the collateral damage to the few patriots in the 535 count but not in the club.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: downnout 5/26/2021 8:32:11 AM (No. 797085)
Take a look at a lithium mine and then tell me lithium batteries are good for the environment. People advocating this c*** are either uninformed or evil.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: czechlist 5/26/2021 9:08:20 AM (No. 797129)
Lithium extraction in Chile is water intensive using over 60% of the resource. Chile has about 50% of the world's Li reserves. Lithium "imperialism" is devastating to the indigenous Chileans.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: bigfatslob 5/26/2021 9:11:55 AM (No. 797133)
There are many stories of the failure of the electric battery driven car but the narrative is out there just like solar panels and windmills. The electric car has been with us for decades it's called a golf cart. It's all a dream and a novelty to think solar panels can service an entire power grid but it works for a cabin in the woods, the golf cart works on the golf course but not in mass interstate transportation, lithium is for gadgets but not in big American cars. There are limited use to batteries and this is certainly not it. The disposal is a problem when the battery's life service is over and a question that has to be answered.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: rikkitikki 5/26/2021 12:57:49 PM (No. 797404)
Great article. Should append to the one, not yet written, which demonstrates that the true, full-cycle CO2 footprint of any electric car will far exceed that of its gasoline-driven equivalent. Be sure to include the CO2 emitted by the following processes: 1. the actual processes (mining & manufacture) of the materials used in the construction of EVs (frame, batteries, etc); 2. cost to generate the electricity, including transmission and storages inefficiencies, needed to charge and run EVs (hint: all in, gasoline gives off less CO2!) 3. full-cycle CO2 impact of replace/recycle/dispose of batteries and the short-lived EVs that use them; 4. full-cycle impact of construction of nation-wide network of charging stations; 5. CO2 impact of lost time waiting on the batteries to charge, on limitations in trip distances, etc.
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