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The Second COVID Wave Was Avoidable

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Posted By: Judy W., 12/5/2020 7:24:38 AM

Two AP headlines in the 1 DEC Richmond, Va. newspaper just prepared us for a ruined Christmas: "Travel at Thanksgiving likely to cause a big surge of the coronavirus" and "Fearing post-Thanksgiving cases, officials order tough restrictions." It appears that our new normal is here to stay. Is there really a second wave of COVID deaths occurring in the European Union (E.U.), United Kingdom (U.K.), and U.S. to justify this? The answer was found in the latest COVID-19 death rate trends in an interactive chart from Our World in Data. (Snip) However, a greater question is whether most of the total COVID-19 deaths and damage from lockdowns could

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We need this reminder about hydroxychloroquine and how its demonization has caused so many excess deaths that it's really a case of mass murder. The second chart, showing death rates for the U.S. and Europe vs. India and two African countries, where they use hydroxychloroquine, is stunning.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: edgar 12/5/2020 7:34:36 AM (No. 623757)
This reasoning is the same as climate change reasoning. No science involved.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: F15 Gork 12/5/2020 7:58:43 AM (No. 623771)
I’m thinking the folks back in 1918 handled their plague better than we did - near as I can tell all they did was take their patients out in the sunshine and fresh air while letting the chips fall where they may. Short of an effective vaccine, kicking the lockdown can down the road just delays the inevitable...
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Lawsy0 12/5/2020 8:02:42 AM (No. 623779)
I don't believe there was one. So there.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: franq 12/5/2020 8:07:17 AM (No. 623786)
Well, just got a (former) church e-letter, with topic of COVID protocol changes. I thought, "Maybe they've come to their senses." Nope, buying into the case resurgence line and requiring masks at all times when inside the building. Sad.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Daisymay 12/5/2020 8:09:54 AM (No. 623791)
I don't think people are going go give up Christmas, with their family, without a fight! Thousands flew across the country to spend Thanksgiving with their family (according to the Air Line Industry! Christmas is a Sacred Holiday. Families want to gather together to experience the Traditions they have, to go to Candlelight Services, to sing Christmas Carols, and to just spend time together. I can't imagine anyone is going to let a Governor (especially one who has been caught going against the very Rules he set for others) take Christmas away from them. I predict it's going to be Planes, Trains and Automobiles this Christmas! As it should be!
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Reply 6 - Posted by: FormerDem 12/5/2020 8:26:17 AM (No. 623811)
Africa did it better - they used HCQ from the beginning and did wayyyyy better. He argues they are letting the US suffer so they can make the case for a great reset. Sounds true to me.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: udanja99 12/5/2020 8:33:06 AM (No. 623822)
What wave? The numbers are phony. The CDC has already announced that they won’t be tracking the flu this year, so anyone who has a slight sniffle will be counted as covid.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 12/5/2020 8:36:45 AM (No. 623828)
The only group that had my respect prior, and lost it, has been the medical community. And that definitely includes my own doctor who refuses to write a prescription for HCQ and my pharmacist who would probably refuse to fill it, because they are afraid of the CDC and their peers. We are on our own, and yes I did find a way to get some HCQ and am using it as a prophylactic.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: GO3 12/5/2020 8:45:19 AM (No. 623840)
Agree with others here. Another thing. We are constantly told that hospitals are reaching capacity for treatment seemingly ignoring the statistic of a 99% recovery rate. There are no demographics of the admitted patients broadcast or the level of symptoms. My question would be, has the lethality of the infection changed? Has it mutated? I think not. I know people in the medical community. Once they are in the break room at the hospital or clinic their masks come off and they sit close together. What a patient sees in the treatment areas is for show. Overall, I have just as much contempt for the medical establishment and medical advisors to politicians as I do for the politicians themselves.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: red1066 12/5/2020 8:57:19 AM (No. 623859)
Second? Some on tv are calling this the third wave. I'm trying to figure out when all these waves occurred. I work in a hospital. Six months ago, only hospital employees were allowed into the hospital unless one had an appointment with a doctor. Even then one was screened and questioned before being allowed into the hospital. Now, no one is screened. There's no security screening the temps of people or asking questions, so if this current wave is SO bad, what happened to all the precautions from six months ago?
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Kate318 12/5/2020 9:53:41 AM (No. 623907)
There is no “second wave.” It is cold and flu season.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: chumley 12/5/2020 10:07:20 AM (No. 623924)
The first wave was a hoax, orchestrated to allow for the wholesale mailing of unaccountable ballots and thus steal the election. The second wave is also a hoax, this time to slow court proceedings and keep people away from the polls in Georgia. There is only one certainty when dealing with government. When they say something, they are lying.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: czechlist 12/5/2020 10:24:34 AM (No. 623936)
"What do you get when you mix politics with science? You get politics!" Wish I could attribute the quote but I cannot recall his name. Biologist at Cornell U I think.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: DVC 12/5/2020 10:28:00 AM (No. 623944)
I'm not convinced that there is any sort of a 'second wave' other than in the Enemedia.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: clayusmcret 12/5/2020 10:42:49 AM (No. 623957)
"It appears that our new normal is here to stay." No. No it's not.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Rumblehog 12/5/2020 10:58:32 AM (No. 623968)
This happens with ALL flu pandemics. It was seen with the Black Death and more recently the Spanish Influenza (which did not come from Spain!)
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Italiano 12/5/2020 11:07:00 AM (No. 623977)
It's real. I have the sniffles and I'm sure that it's Covid-related. The people I know in California who work in hospitals tell me that there is nobody there. Odd for a "second wave."
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Chuzzles 12/5/2020 12:30:07 PM (No. 624053)
The media and democrats are responsible for the first wave, as well as any spikes that might or might not exist. Personally, I do not trust media or any democrat to give us actual, honest numbers when it comes to covid. They are starting to realize that next year when there are no numbers for any of the usual methods of death, they are going to have some serious explaining to do, since they have been lumping everything into covid even if covid wasn't responsible. This is going to get so ugly. I believe this, because Oregon governor Brown admitted recently to the fact that Oregon will change the way they count the numbers. They know folks, and they are terrified of what is coming.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: kono 12/5/2020 12:56:05 PM (No. 624083)
Is it just accident or coincidence that the dual lockdowns coincide with the 2 holidays most central to the sense of American identity? Independence Day and Christmas. The "surge" is highly suspicious to me for being so perfectly timed to assault the status quo and stability of our nation during an attempted Bolshevik revolution, with orders perfectly aligned with preventing our sense of solidarity or bonding behavior -- nobody gather, everybody stay home, and for God's sake mask up and stay further apart than the length of your bodies.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Surroundedbyblue 12/5/2020 1:01:12 PM (No. 624090)
There was no first wave. It is and has been everything but “Covid 1984”. There is no second wave, It’s the flu. It’s to keep us from revolting in the streets, keeping them clear for Antifa. We need to crash a few Governor Mansions and perform citizen arrests on a few of the worst offenders.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: GoodDeal 12/5/2020 2:06:57 PM (No. 624154)
Just like dying is avoidable.
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