Is Bill Barr a bad guy or helpfully spreading
disinformation?
American Thinker,
by
Andrea Widburg
Original Article
Posted By: Magnante,
12/2/2020 4:43:01 AM
When Trump installed Bill Barr as his Attorney General, most conservatives thought this was a good thing. (snip) Things went haywire today, though, when Barr said that the DOJ has “not seen fraud on a scale that could have affected a different outcome in the election.” What!?
Barr made that statement during an interview with AP, which is resolutely anti-Trump. Indeed, although the article purports to be an interview with Barr, most of it is another mean-girl style AP article (snip) Interestingly, Trump did not brutally attack Barr (snip) Trump’s unusual silence may mean we’re watching a magician’s misdirection.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
PChristopher 12/2/2020 5:02:38 AM (No. 621255)
Mm hm...I frequently read these sorts of stories that would lead you to believe that the fight against the obvious corruption in this election is being planned as carefully and stealthily as the Normandy invasion. Personally, I hope it is...but I'm not holding my breath.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
3XALADY 12/2/2020 5:29:58 AM (No. 621260)
So I guess the thousands coming forward with their stories of ballot manipulation are lieing through their teeth? The latest story is about a truck driver who delivered 24 pallets of filled out ballots from upstate New York to some where in Pennsylvania. You couldn't write a book about all of this.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Rinktum 12/2/2020 5:41:42 AM (No. 621265)
Not falling for the possibility that Barr is actually doing great investigative work behind the scenes. We have seen this movie before and it never ends well for the good guys. So, pardon my cynicism, but I say poppycock. Barr is not the guy I thought he might be. Yes, I listened to DiGenova and Toensing and others who assured us Barr was a straight shooter and the right man for the job. (Insert eye roll.) Frankly, I do not trust anyone in Washington except the President. I am done with being lied to and manipulated. Barr is a traitor as far as I am concerned until proof to the contrary is forthcoming. He has been silent on this whole voter fraud matter until today and then he drops this piece of excrement? Nope, I am done with him. How can men who purport to love the rule of law and Constitution give aid and support to a party that is the very definition of corruption at every level. Our government is filled with corruption and the very guy tasked to defend and protect the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic is clearly compromised. I cannot abide backstabbers, and Barr appears to be their king.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
The Remnants 12/2/2020 5:43:23 AM (No. 621268)
What can a person do if the Attorney General of our country says there is no crime? Who do you go to to report what happened?
It is a little like being a victim of police brutality. If the police says nothing happened; then who believes you that something did happen?
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
DCGIRL 12/2/2020 5:47:25 AM (No. 621270)
#3, I pray that you are right. I always thought Barr was honest.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
chumley 12/2/2020 6:31:33 AM (No. 621285)
We spent years asking the same questions about Sessions. He was a bad guy. There were no investigations, no prosecutions, no nothing. They said it was going to be biblical. It wasn't. I keep hoping it will be, but we are running out of time very quickly and so far nothing.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
F15 Gork 12/2/2020 6:36:40 AM (No. 621287)
Barr and Durham are like riding into a box canyon - things look promising at the beginning but eventually you learn that the trail leads nowhere......
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Jackie 12/2/2020 7:21:12 AM (No. 621306)
Well if the story is true about bribery and a pardon then I would say Barr has been busy, backstabbing and investigating the WH. All the other crimes going on and we hear about this. I do believe the Pres has been surrounded by evil treacherous people. They will not give up their power. All the investigations hearing and stealing an election and this is what that SOB has been up to. Oh yes. And he puts that fool Durham as a Special prosecutor. I hope the Pres goes nuclear on that place before he leaves town. God help us ..
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 12/2/2020 7:23:38 AM (No. 621310)
You know what he can do with those bagpipes.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
judy 12/2/2020 7:25:24 AM (No. 621311)
This coming from Barr who refused to get involved with Hunter Biden situation before the election & release Durham 's report because he said it may become political ....yet he makes this statement before the certification????Unbelievable...Barr is one Big let down....I guess he's happy now the fake media ,WP & NY Times loves him now!!!
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
bassman 12/2/2020 7:37:58 AM (No. 621324)
Notice he said "voter fraud" and not "election fraud". That makes me think he's working behind the scene on this.
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I am weary of giving benefit of the doubt and hearing conjecture about 3D chess games.
We need honest and forthright men and women to bring this nation into a state of law and order!
I don't want to hear about one more special council or investigation or hearing!
I am done with listening to D.C. tales regarding how Barr, Durham, Wray, Haspel....are such wonderful competent people of integrity. All that matters is what actions they have taken in 2020, and those actions have been deplorable!
If the swamp is this deep and wide, the people of this country may need to step up and take action, because it seems that our elected government and the hirelings they have rewarded with positions in the bureaucratic agencies will not.
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I'm done giving Barr the benefit of the doubt. Interesting how it didn't take long to charge R. Stone, Manafort, or Gen Flynn (which were largely phony), but it takes forever to charge these evil Marxists on the left, even though we all have seen the evidence. And Limbaugh has been saying all along to give Barr time. He also defended Sessions (?)
There are laptops sitting at the FBI that are filled with evidence of treason, pedophilia. and child trafficking, but no one is doing anything. How do these agents sleep at night knowing young children are being sexually abused?
It's not a conspiracy theory. Epstein was first arrested in 2008 and got a slap on the wrist. Then he put the Lolita Express right back in business. I guess his parole officer was not paying attention. And the FBI raided Epstein Island and got all the evidence! Now it's in a large Tupperware container in the basement of the FBI building with two laptops and a garage door pull rope marked, "Do not disturb. See Chris Wray."
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
justjoe1237 12/2/2020 7:54:52 AM (No. 621338)
Right! And... and... maybe the guy who stole my new car was actually doing me a favour! Maybe he knew it was going to turn out to be a lemon! And I was probably going to get into an accident with a faulty car! Yes! Wow! It looked like he was doing a bad thing, but he was actually doing such a good thing! I owe a debt of gratitude to the guy who stole my new car! *blowing kisses* Thank you! Thank you!
-- The thief of my new car is a thug. And Bill Barr is a slimy, crawling swamp creature.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Bur Oak 12/2/2020 8:03:44 AM (No. 621346)
"The only thing for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke I don't know if Barr is a good man or a scoundrel but unless he acts to uphold the law it matters little.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
anniebc 12/2/2020 8:17:15 AM (No. 621355)
"Could Bar have committed the same fallacy of discounting the evidence without weighing its veracity or probative value?"
Would this be acceptable, though?
I agree with the author on this:
"If this is indeed the game Barr and Trump are playing, it’s a dangerous one."
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Jebediah 12/2/2020 8:17:50 AM (No. 621357)
Can't begin to say how disappointed I am in this man.............I can understand why he speaks the way he does re: evidence EXCEPT THAT HE HASN'T LOOKED!!!!!!! No matter how many of the histeblowers have contacted Justice (as well as the corrupt at the top FBI) none of them have been interviewed. Plus the Durham "investigation" is a joke.......there is no reason, even if the man felt he hadn't totally concluded his wildly expensive "fact finding" tour of the world, that he couldn't have given some sort of précis as to what he has found prior to the election. So much for the two of the men as persons of integrity.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Clinger 12/2/2020 8:18:49 AM (No. 621359)
Ok Mr. Barr if you haven't seen wide spread systemic voter fraud, I have to ask you, what would it look like if it was staring you right in the face? What would it look like if voting machines were programed to switch votes from one candidate to another? Golly, I'd submit that an instantaneous decrease of X from candidate "A" and an increase of X for candidate "B" might be such an indication would it not? I'd also suggest that the instruction manual explaining how that can be done with the equipment and software used would establish the technical feasibility would it not Mr. Barr? The other thing I would expect with such a grand scheme as alleged, would be someone seeing something and coming forward. Has that not happened Mr. Barr? I would also expect statistical anomalies such as areas with a long history of similar results having wildly differing results. Have we not seen just that Mr. Barr? You know Mr. Barr, you rarely catch a serial killer with a knife in his hand and on the throat of a victim. You catch that killer by recognizing patterns and being curious about them and seeking an explanation.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 12/2/2020 8:24:24 AM (No. 621365)
Perhaps Barr should be behind bars? I won't get behind Barr until they begin the rolling indictments from the Durham probe OR the 2020 Election Fraud fiasco. By now Barr should have engaged the U.S. Marshall's Office to start the police work on the election fraud, since the FBI is horribly compromised and dirty.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 12/2/2020 8:29:47 AM (No. 621371)
Barr has sold us out. Same as Durham did. Both put preservation of the deep state ahead of rule of law and the Constitution. Funny though, but, I thought these two had taken a certain oath of office. Barr is complicit in this life and must now answer to a Higher Being.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
droopydog 12/2/2020 8:35:10 AM (No. 621373)
Didn't TS Eliot write something about things ending, not with a bang, but with a whimper? So far, when it comes to Justice, I've seen 4+ years of whimper.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
planetgeo 12/2/2020 8:39:35 AM (No. 621379)
You don't survive in the swamp for decades like Barr has without knowing how to swim with the snakes and the gators...and pretty much learning how to look, sound, and act like them.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
RedWhite&Blue2 12/2/2020 8:41:23 AM (No. 621381)
I say he is a
Bad Guy!
Replace him today
And that fbi clown Wray
You’re Fired!
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
ROLFNader 12/2/2020 8:42:53 AM (No. 621382)
Well, as long as Barr does something to maybe make sure nothing like this ever happens again, we should be happy and quit yelling at him. We need to concentrate on the whoohoo virus and which movie star I've never heard of has changed zher gender.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
LLAMA 12/2/2020 8:42:55 AM (No. 621383)
So what do you do when all of the institutions of a great republic fail? When the government itself has been corrupted, elections can't be trusted to be free and fair, the judiciary is intimidated, and academia has become an organ of propaganda? The firewall is supposed to be the free press, but they are leading the misinformation campaign as surely as any of the propaganda machines of current and past dictatorships. The malfeasance of the national media has spread into local news outlets, especially newspapers. They write headlines on nationally syndicated stories to distort the content, and get most of their content from outlets like the AP (the worst of all), which dominates the once proud but now failing newspapers of the hinterland. There exist news aggregators like this one, but these don't reach the overwhelming majority of citizens.
So what do you do?
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
bigfatslob 12/2/2020 8:51:18 AM (No. 621389)
The fix is in with voter fraud and a Biden win who makes this all turn to dust swept under the rug. Washington is a den of thieves and all go along to get along dems and repubs alike Barr is one of them.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Daydreamer20 12/2/2020 9:03:37 AM (No. 621397)
They conveniently forgot the qualifying, “as yet” and that they were continuing to investigate. More lies by omission.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
Zigrid 12/2/2020 9:17:57 AM (No. 621410)
I'll wait and see about Barr...I listen to President Trump on all matters pertaining to this fraudulent election... he's in charge....I get the feeling that he's playing chess... moving his pieces as he sees fit... looking for a checkmate move... let's be patient....shhhhh...
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
earlybird 12/2/2020 9:34:46 AM (No. 621418)
See article just posted. The DoJ is NOT done investigating election fraud.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/doj-not-done-investigating-election-fraud-spokesperson-says_3601350.html?utm_source=morningbrief&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-12-02
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
earlybird 12/2/2020 9:38:24 AM (No. 621425)
(hit submit too soon)
From the article linked in #29,
In its headline, The Associated Press twisted Barr’s comment to suggest that the attorney general has passed final judgment on whether fraud occurred in the 2020 election. “Disputing [President Donald] Trump, Barr says no widespread election fraud,” the wire service reported.
But the AP’s own article prefaced Trump’s comment on the matter by saying that “Barr told the AP that U.S. attorneys and FBI agents have been working to follow up specific complaints and information they’ve received.”
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
Strike3 12/2/2020 10:09:52 AM (No. 621445)
OR - Barr could be part of an operation to set up the democrats into believing that their path into the White House is smooth when the land mines are just around the corner. Too many possibilities with too many people in Washington who can't be trusted. As ordinary citizens there has always been only one thing we can do, pick up a weapon and join the right side. The #Resist campaign against Joe and KamalShiff should be so strong and fierce that they willl wish they had never crossed us. The democrats' Forward Together propaganda is not an option for me.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
Strike3 12/2/2020 10:21:42 AM (No. 621448)
This constant investigating, questioning and creating hopes of near future results that end in disappointment has an equivalent in the corporate world. We all know middle and upper management who make plans, bring in high-priced consultants, spend money on huge projects and end up with nothing. It's simply because they do not have the drive or talent to bring things to a successful close. That's what the DOJ has been since 2016 and probably much earlier (read Obama Regime). It has been said before but a reengineering and repopulation of this sham department is long overdue.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
stablemoney 12/2/2020 10:25:46 AM (No. 621452)
Barr has appointed a special counsel, but then narrowed the scope to Crossfire Hurricane, which means Durham is not going after anybody beyond the FBI personnel that have already resigned, if those. Barr has done nothing, and his smile looks just like the smirk on John Robert's face. Barr has run the time out, which was his object all along. The Durham "investigation" has gone on for 560 days with nothing, and we are just now learning how narrow that supposed "investigation" is. Barr has betrayed us. Trump should fire Barr, and appoint an acting AG, to put the mark of disgrace on this AG. The same should happen to Wray. These two should not be allowed to walk around with their smirks.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 12/2/2020 10:33:41 AM (No. 621459)
Barr was appointed Attorney General, not county sheriff. Arpaio would have been a great sheriff, but DJT wasn't in the market for a sheriff. If a sheriff misfires at high noon, it is easily understood. Not so easily would be a misstep by the US AG. He is cautious. To a rock solid conservative, he is too cautious but that is the nature of the AG beast.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
gone2pot 12/2/2020 11:11:47 AM (No. 621497)
The last reason to support and defend the Constitution, when all other things have been lost because of corruption, the only thing that makes this nation a representative republic under the Constitution is the right to vote. It is the last bridge, the last defense against ending forever, the United States of America. If we were invaded, or we lost a war, the enemy who sets up their new government would remove voting rights, tacitly or out in the open. The loss of all the Bill of Rights can be regained by voting, difficult but we could vote a majority of leaders to preserve them. If our vote is gone, literally all freedom is gone and there is no longer a representative republic and on January 20, 2021, the beginning of a Marxist led country will stand at least as long as communist China has stood. I guess this is what Romans 1:18-32 looks like. American Christianity has ignored it for decades, believing it does not apply to them when Romans 2:1 says otherwise, and will not know whatsoever why what is about to happen, happens. My military service has been made a total waste of time. Bill Barr is just trying to save himself from the upcoming wrath of the Marxists, like Mitt and Bill Kristol; Quisling's on steroids.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
Mike6 12/2/2020 11:13:44 AM (No. 621503)
Is William Barr an idiot, maybe he was paid, or was he threatened?
He reminds me of the Stalin NKVD Director Beria.
Like Stalin Beria was a dirty Georgian.
However. Beria never, Never went to the Georgian Orthodox Church.
He picked up pretty Russian Girls in the Moscow streets, raped them, and buried their bodies in his back yard.
Do Biden, Obama, and Hillary also have bodies buried in their back yards?
I heard that THEY have hidden more than 21 bodied in Arkansas.
Stalin like Obama, always received 90% of the votes.
The 10% men who did not vote for Stalin were shipped to horrible Gulags.
What are Biden, Kamala, Obama and dirty Hillary going to do with the 48 % who voted for Trump?
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
weejun 12/2/2020 11:51:41 AM (No. 621538)
And he bases his conclusion of "no voting fraud" on WHAT investigation???? Has the DOJ conducted a single investigation into the allegations? if so, produce the results. Otherwise, keep your mouth shut and prod Durham to wrap it up and report.
I am SO SICK of the swamp!!!!!
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
milwaukeeroad 12/2/2020 12:34:52 PM (No. 621565)
Unless, and I am holding out for this, Barr is trying to lull the Dems to sleep thereby drawing out commentary, lies, and pomposity as to their electoral chicanery.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
Sully 12/2/2020 12:59:29 PM (No. 621592)
Could I tell you something? Conservative echo chambers have 2 traits: we are told justice is right around the corner! But it never comes. Also we chomp down on that bait when they dangle it down in front of us like a trout. Get all lit up over flash fires and start making emotional claims that are just WAGs. We turn our backs in a snap.
Yes. It looked to me like Billy Jack Barr had backstabbed the POTUS. But I really don't know. The shenanigans are too deep for me to guess at. I will know Barr is a sumbee when President Trump tells me his is a sumbee. Not before. Until then Barr retains his bonafides.
Barr and POTUS had a 3 hour meeting the other day? You got no idea what they discussed. Coulda been strategy. Coulda been threats.
You don't write a story where all the characters get resolved by switching sides at the last second. That is nonsense in a novel. It's nonsense in real life too.
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
BigGeorgeTX 12/2/2020 2:45:31 PM (No. 621678)
They haven't yet seen the evidence because revealing the evidence to the DOJ is like broadcasting it on CNN. Save the evidence for the courts and let the Left sweat. Then, round up the players when you get ready to present it in the SC. Catch them all, don't let any slip away.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
shamus 12/2/2020 5:34:35 PM (No. 621801)
It's not clear that Barr has done anything worthwhile during his tenure. The people in DOJ appear to have the more constitution of a jellyfish.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
joseph1 12/2/2020 5:43:21 PM (No. 621808)
another horse bull full of rinos running on republican ticket but actually are full of demorats I can name of hundrets but three for sure BUSH, BARR and Romney (treesum and gruesum)
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
chase9365 12/2/2020 7:11:07 PM (No. 621864)
At this point, Barr is a lazy POS or an evil, evil man.
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
Saryden 12/2/2020 9:27:26 PM (No. 621933)
I think the Replies to this article indicate the frustration we have with this Fraud Election. If the USA is to continue as a free republic, the leader of the free world, the "shining city on the hill"... we must stop this outrageous thief of the election and the disenfranchisement of our votes. The RNC throwing money at the TV stations and other "information dispensers" is not going to cut it.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
Red Ghost 12/2/2020 10:27:50 PM (No. 621950)
Ya know what is so pathetic? We all strain and contort ourselves into pretzels to try to figure out if Barr is a good guy, a bad guy, corrupt, honest, is for the country and we ponder if he is loyal to his boss, President Donald John Trump. But, if this was Eric Holder, Obama's wing man, Democrats would never need to question whether he was loyal to his boss. Holder would have been on every single news station the day after the election, opening up investigations into anything and anyone that could possibly have tried to hijack his boss's election. He would be throwing himself in front of Obama.....taking a bullet for the guy.
Trump has absolutely no one working for him, not even Jared or Ivanka, that would throw themselves out there to shield him from the corrupt forces that seek to undermine and destroy him. Pathetic and just so heart wrenchingly sad. My heart continues to break for our President.
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