Is Mass Mail-in Voting About
to Backfire on Democrats?
Townhall,
by
Katie Pavlich
Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly,
10/4/2020 5:14:12 AM
When the Wuhan coronavirus pandemic came to America earlier this year, Democrats rushed to score political points and demanded elections be conducted through the mail instead of in person. They did this thinking it would be politically advantageous and productive in bolstering victory for their candidates.
When President Trump pointed out problems unprepared systems would have with an onslaught of untested, mass mail-in voting, Democrats doubled down in an effort to prove him wrong.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
OBX Pete 10/4/2020 5:50:10 AM (No. 561355)
This may be the first time that a candidate for office receives more fraudulent votes than legal votes.
Lets hope that OUR people have enough checkers to prevent this from happening and expose the evil dims
for what they are !!!
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
chumley 10/4/2020 6:02:32 AM (No. 561359)
This is intentionally confusing. If enough ballots from stupid people come in and are disqualified, the fraudulent ones will be pushed through without much scrutiny because they are filled out properly. Plus, if they lose they can sue because the process was too hard for stupid people, i.e. their base. It will have disenfranchised idiots.
In person voting on one day only, ID required, blue or ultraviolet thumb. That will fix it. Well, until the counters start their fraud.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
MattMusson 10/4/2020 7:00:10 AM (No. 561374)
If Democrats and Republicans used mail-in voting in the same numbers, the Democrats would have the advantage since it is easier to steal votes and Democrats are in charge of elections in the Purple states. But, since 10% of mail in votes are disqualified, with twice as many Dems voting by mail it means twice as many Dem votes will be disqualified.
Dems will be forced to steal a LOT of votes just to break even.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
privateer 10/4/2020 7:01:04 AM (No. 561375)
If this were to backfire against the Dems, it will be because of their
characteristic stupidity, greed and hubris. And when it does, they will characteristically demand to be indemnified against same. Absent that rescue, they will then demand a complete do-over. Should that be denied, they will insist that the President was not duly elected, due to massive voter disenfranchisement. They then move to their desired posture: the President is illegal.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
SkeezerMcGee 10/4/2020 7:08:00 AM (No. 561383)
The Article is correct. VOTE IN PERSON. Anyone who has reviewed mail in ballots understands the amazingly high percentage of mail in ballots that are invalidated because mail in voters fail to follow SIMPLE instructions. It's shocking that so many mail in voters are so careless! Actually mail in voter fraud is NOT not easy to accomplish, and should fail in all voter precincts that have a republican member on the mail in ballot review team. This is why democrats fight in the courts to require that all members of every voter review team must reside in the area of the respective voting precinct. For example, many precincts in Philadelphia, PA,, will have no republican on the vote review team. The good news is - nation wide - there are too few "no republican reviewer" precincts to offset he huge percentage of invalidated mail in ballots.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
udanja99 10/4/2020 7:17:11 AM (No. 561393)
Gee, I seem to remember a bit of a problem with ballots a few years ago where people were too stupid to punch out the correct chad. And everyone blamed the committee which designed the ballot and then tried to change the rules of the election after Election Day.
Yep. They were demonrats too. Some things are so predictable.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
jeffkinnh 10/4/2020 7:25:36 AM (No. 561397)
This is tragically and predictably hilarious. The dems manage to shoot themselves in both feet in almost everything they attempt. Only their utter shamelessness and being propped up by their propaganda media is keeping their head above water.
"The New York Times Editorial Board is now calling for voters to cast their ballots in person."
Can you imagine the panic in Liberal land when they found out their voters, acting acting exactly as they insist they do, were getting their votes disqualified in big numbers. Remember, the plan was that Trump would probably win the election day vote but Biden would overcome that with the cough, cough (rigged) mail in vote. Apparently, the dopey dem voters combined with an overwhelmed and incompetent mail system (as predicted by Trump) is getting significant numbers of "votes" tossed.
PANIC!!! Dem operatives sitting in their basements filling out fake ballots is not going to fly. Now, dems actually have to get their voters out to vote by election day. Finding a live,coherent, person that has valid ID, dragging them to the polls, and getting them to actually vote for the right people is a LOT harder than manufacturing counterfeit ballots in an undisclosed location.
Meanwhile, Republicans have been planning to vote in person and legitimately. Their get out the vote effort has been targeted to do this and is massively staffed to knock on millions of doors. No problem.
Have you considered that Trump trolled the dems on this issue. Trump knows that the dems are planning to use mail in ballot fraud (and any underhanded trick they can) to steal the election. So Trump says the mail in process is unreliable, which has the benefit of also being true. The "whatever Trump says is wrong and bad" knee jerk dems immediate claim the opposite and start a massive mail in push. As Trump knew it would be, it was a mess. It could derail the dems whole ballot strategy. What good is it to make great counterfeit ballots if they are going to be tossed out as invalid?
Now the dems have to make a major switch in the last few weeks of the election. They have to change from a secretive and easy vote manufacturing process to rousting up real people with real IDs and valid rights to vote in the district. It has to be done in sunlight. Dems are NOT good at complicated processes done in sunlight and now they are right where Trump wants them to be; off footed and exposed. Trump can even smile and say, "I warned you.".
Trump for the BIG WIN!
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Sully 10/4/2020 7:43:46 AM (No. 561409)
My reply is, NO kidding! We know the election will be a giant stink show. That is the goal.
Dems want to control the chaos in their direction, and produce fake votes from who knows where. Then go to court to get them counted and if that fails riot in the streets for bolshivism. And if they can drag it out long enough install Nancy.
Their goal is to steal or destroy the election not win it. Looks to me like they are on track.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Red Jeep 10/4/2020 7:48:17 AM (No. 561416)
When the election is over officials should make sure that the number of votes doesn't exceed the number of registered voters.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
anniebc 10/4/2020 8:10:27 AM (No. 561427)
The left is hoping for chaos, but they hope it's the kind of chaos that gets Trump kicked out of the WH, even if it's a scenario where we don't know who won far into January. They want it to appear that Biden won so Trump is forced to, in their warped minds, vacate the WH while Joe moves in, or some shiitake. They just mean to rule by any means necessary. We can focus on Biden/Ho/Burned Bernie's small or nonexistent crowds, but obama had significantly smaller crowds when he ran against Romney; he still won a second term. At the very least, they hope to cast doubt on the legitimacy of a second Trump term so they can tie him up in investigation after investigation. The purpose of that would be to say look at him so we don't look at them. Democrats may not be smart and may bank on people being idiots, but they are evil.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Urgent Fury 10/4/2020 8:31:09 AM (No. 561449)
VIP
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
cobieone 10/4/2020 9:04:51 AM (No. 561483)
I love Katie Pavlich! But I don't think she makes a convincing point here about how this backfires on the Dems?? The Dems entire plan is to create major chaos and have the election results in doubt for months. Seems to me this is exactly what we can expect from the mail in voting process. Mission accomplished. Hope I'm wrong.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 10/4/2020 9:19:57 AM (No. 561497)
Remember the old Soviet slogan, it doesn't matter how votes are cast, what matters is who counts them.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
gone2pot 10/4/2020 9:51:08 AM (No. 561528)
First of all, and as is typical of the NYT in their deception is that almost NONE of the screwed up ballots are absentee ballots. They are mail-in ballots NOT requested by the voters and MOST fidiot Americans have no clue that absentee ballots and mail-in ballots are no where near the same thing. A registered voter MUST request an absentee ballot and prove that they are in fact the voter who will receive that ballot. Mail-in ballots are sent WITHOUT the request of the specific registered voter and those mail-in ballots are why the Marxists will steal this election AFTER all legitimate votes are cast. They will figure out how many Marxist ballots they need for a particular district that allows mail-in ballots AFTER Nov 3, and THEN illegally fill them out and send them in to get the illegal votes they need to win that purple district. THAT IS THE ILLEGAL SCAM. Know it well so you can explain it to your moronic Marxist co-workers.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Bluefindad 10/4/2020 9:51:15 AM (No. 561530)
As chaotic as the system is, what prevents Dems from mailing in AND voting in person? And, the Dems have armies of lawyers queued up and ready to march into battle. They will challenge the vote qualification rules while Dems scream in rage that "All votes count!". Be prepared for a protracted battle and an attempt to throw the election to the House.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Arby 10/4/2020 10:13:40 AM (No. 561552)
Mayhap they will be hoist on their own petard. Wouldn't that be special? A landslide victory for our president and some truly nasty karma for the would-be cheaters.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Omen55 10/4/2020 10:20:59 AM (No. 561562)
This is all part of Fate defeating dem.
Victory will go to Trump & US.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
kennedylaw 10/4/2020 10:49:45 AM (No. 561604)
Although the democrats had no problem with throwing out defective and late ballots in the democrat primaries, we can expect months of litigation under the battle cry of "count every vote" after the general election as democrats work tirelessly to overturn Trump's reelection victory.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Kafka2 10/4/2020 10:50:32 AM (No. 561605)
Mail-in voting is in misnomer. I believe the term was purposely chosen to make people think it is the same thing as "absentee voting." It is not. An absentee ballot is requested by a registered voter. The supervisor of elections verifies the voter is registered before sending out the ballot.
The, so called, mail-in ballots are in many cases being sent out to everybody without being requested or verification if the recipient is registered or even a citizen. It is like the "junk mail" addressed to occupant.
They should be called "junk mail ballots."
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
DVC 10/4/2020 11:18:02 AM (No. 561630)
Even if they eventually wind up tossing out more Dem mail votes than normal, this is what I am worried about:
FTA, referring to the NY primary vote:
“Now, nearly six weeks later, two closely watched congressional races remain undecided, and major delays in counting a deluge of 400,000 mail-in ballots and other problems are being cited as examples of the challenges facing the nation as it looks toward conducting the November general election during the pandemic."
If this kind of massive delay happens in the November election, we could wind up with this so delayed (intentionally!) that there is no answer by the Constitutionally mandated date of January 21, 2021 and that, I believe, throws this into the House, with each state getting one vote. I believe that one vote comes from a consensus of the House members in that state.
One way out may be that if Trump gets so much of a landslide that whatever remaining states are not yet able to count their votes represent too small a number to change the outcome, ie Trump gets 270 with some states still not reporting, then I suppose it is over even if "still counting".
This is a mess, but has some possible advantages, too. In a House vote, huge states like California, Florida or NY with 27 to 50+ House seats each still only gets one vote, and small states like Wyoming and South Dakota with one House seat, or Kansas with four seats, each also get one vote.
Our Founding Fathers were geniuses, no question, but I wonder how this mess would actually play out in these weird times if this were to get thrown to the House.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
tsrtexas 10/4/2020 11:18:07 AM (No. 561631)
I sincerely hope it backfires on their campaign. I cannot believe how many higher and lower level politicians and their constituents are creating illegal acts of mail fraud just to get Trump out of office. What most of their disillusioned followers are unaware of is the impact it will have on all of our lives, even theirs with the absurd policies they have promised if they ever do get into office!
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Starboard_side 10/4/2020 11:21:58 AM (No. 561635)
What President Trump should consider, to deploy the National Guard to every mail box, post office, and mail drop box.
After all, the USPS is Federal, and he would be making sure it was protected, not disturbed, not tampered with, and not stuffed AFTER the deadline.
They could also deputize tens of thousands of law enforcement, or possibly even use some military personnel to assist in ensuring there are plenty of people watching, observing, that the count is proper and correct. It's easy to check for pre-filled applications which have the information typed-in, like they tried to do in Iowa who sent out 50,000 pre-filled ballots with the voter information already completed - just needed a signature which makes it easier for fraud.
Then, need to make sure whether the Public Official who is responsible for certifying the election has followed the proper procedures and what it means to certify the election. If they can't verify, or have followed the proper procedures, they would have no choice but to disqualify them all.
Are they able to verify the count was correct and accurate?
Are they able to verify the voter rolls were properly updated to reflect only those legally eligible to vote are on the rolls?
Lastly, remind people who may be looking to become citizens that voting will eliminate that possibility, so be careful.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
DVC 10/4/2020 11:29:22 AM (No. 561643)
If this is delayed and gets thrown into the House, it seems to me that Trump wins easily. In that case, IIRC, each state gets one vote. This cuts back on the Electoral College advantage of the more populous states, so instead of California getting 58 EC votes, if the election is thrown to the House, they get one vote. NY has 29 EC votes, one vote in the House in this case.
By a quick count of 'red states vs blue states' the blues account for about 20 states. That leaves 30 for red, and an easy Trump win, it would seem.
It could be a wild couple of months if this isn't a clear landslide, decided quickly. Worst case it could trigger a lot of violence. The left has promised as much.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
czechlist 10/4/2020 12:43:34 PM (No. 561722)
Article 1 Section 8 of The Constitution established the postal system. The country was mostly rural requiring many voters arduous travels to and from the polls. If voting by mail should be an option why didn't the founders codify it? IMO they likely thought voting was an opportunity to bring communities together.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Zigrid 10/4/2020 1:51:36 PM (No. 561813)
New Hampshire had best watch the buses full to overflowing with illegals from Massachusetts... it happens every election... that's how New Hampshire became blue....just as Minnesota is the destiny of Chicago illegals....how else could Minneapolis have such a dumb governor....now.... who do you suppose is paying these illegals.... perhaps soros?
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
edgar 10/4/2020 3:17:03 PM (No. 561887)
My wife and I are empty nesters and moved to NC three years ago. We received a "mail in ballot request" for our oldest daughter who has never, ever lived in this state, yet alone at this address. I threw it out, but have to ask, if my daughter was never registered to vote here, why in the heck is she receiving a mail in ballot request form with her name and my address? P.S. she is a registered Dem in MD. Vote often. s/off
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
XCenturion 10/4/2020 8:13:29 PM (No. 562127)
It might be inconvenient to stand in long lines at the polls, but to combat the lefts fraudulent mail in voting strategy we must vote in person. If you vote by absentee ballot I wouldn't trust the USPS to deliver your ballot so drop it off at a local polling station or county elections office. If you know of any person "ballot harvesting" or committing voter fraud, turn them in to authorities. Remember, the Democrats are going to try everything to steal this election.
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