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California: The Golden
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Posted By: Magnante, 9/23/2020 9:35:50 AM

California is a mess; no secret there. But the degree of decline that befalls it, and the quickness with which that decline is moving, seems to be largely ignored, particularly by Californians themselves. (snip) Wildfires, unfortunately, are among the least of California's woes. Homelessness in the state has become a major problem, and one that is having a significant impact on the quality of life for taxpayers. (snip) In spite of an abundance of bad news items hitting California on a regular basis, the most ominous challenge is undoubtedly the fiscal time bomb that looms, and whose ticking grows louder by the day.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: chance_232 9/23/2020 9:47:12 AM (No. 549678)
I left California in 96 and went back to visit in 07. I was shocked at the very visible decline. The air quality was worse, the graffiti was worse and what was once the best highway system in the world was visibly worse. That was what I could see through the windshield.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: jimkata 9/23/2020 9:48:30 AM (No. 549680)
We visited a friend in San Jose in 1997 and coming from Florida were shocked at the state of things. It looked as if things had stopped in 1964. The roads were rough, the interstate wasn't the best. The grocery store looked circa 1964, not the big Publix or Kroger stores we were use to. San Fransisco roads were a mess. It was old looking then... I can't imagine how it is now.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Alecto2 9/23/2020 9:50:23 AM (No. 549684)
Being a politician means never having to say: "I'm sorry, I got it wrong".
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Samsquanch 9/23/2020 9:51:19 AM (No. 549685)
My wife's aunt went to San Diego several years ago. She said it reminded her of their hometown in Honduras, I lived there in the early 80's when it was still very nice.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: excalgalcg 9/23/2020 9:54:24 AM (No. 549688)
Poster #1, Ieft in '95 and haven't looked back. Unfortunately, I have a family there and I've been back many times to visit my daughter and grandsons. It certainly has changed and for the worst. The traffic is appalling and it's so overcrowded and they live in the Silicon Valley. I lived closer to SF and the homes and population of little towns is amazing. Schools are overcrowded and at least 18 different languages are spoken in the schools. For the 33 years I lived there, there was always a threat of fire and earthquakes. No one takes it seriously and the government keeps raising taxes. I wish my family would get out of there it's not the same place as it was when we moved there in 1972.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: feet2fire 9/23/2020 10:05:38 AM (No. 549702)
I'm forever grateful that our dad's Civil Service work transferred him and us to SoCal in the late 50s, where my brothers and sisters and I grew up throughout the 60s and 70s. What a paradise it was, even for the very unwealthy like us. Beaches, mountains, deserts, and Disneyland all within easy reach, and our school system was terrific too. We all had left by the mid-80s and we're truly sorry California is what it has become. Elections have consequences, indeed.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Yuban 9/23/2020 10:14:06 AM (No. 549711)
I still live in "terrible" California. The air is crystal clear. The river is full of salmon and steelhead as I type. The streams are numerous and clean. Very little traffic in my town of 1100. No traffic lights. 95% of the people are loving, generous hard working folk. Mountain trails everywhere. Hunting and fishing year round. No mayor (un-incorporated town). One cop. One grocery store. One gas station. I would never leave because the State has problems, just like I would never leave an America that isn't perfect. There are many places in California I would not live in, as there are many places in your home state that I wouldn't step foot in. Some of you chose to leave and then bash California. I chose to stay and live the good life in God's Country. Life is all about choices. You all have a blessed day.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Skinnydip 9/23/2020 10:16:21 AM (No. 549712)
I have relatives there. They are Republicans. They all want to leave. They can afford to leave. But they don't...
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Reply 9 - Posted by: PChristopher 9/23/2020 10:46:47 AM (No. 549757)
As I've said before, if California, and a few other blue states, plans on using the federal bailout tactic, then the Feds should take preemptive measures and place the governance of the state into the hands of a commission as if it's receivership, which is essentially what it is. Take the rug that is California, hang it up and give it a good solid beating...go through every line in the budget and cut it to the barest minimum, shake out all of the despotic labor and election laws that keep it a blue state. California is what they want the rest of the country to look like, which is fine if you are rich and live in a gated community...most of us don't.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: GoodDeal 9/23/2020 11:35:43 AM (No. 549824)
I was born and raised in CA. Trust me the article is absolutely true and they keep looking for new ways to create new taxes and raise existing taxes. But it’s a three issue problem here. The states electrical system problems, the water management policies and forest management. All three stress are historically misnamed by incompetent environmentalists whackos and what e we have today is proof beyond doubt that if you keep doing what you do you get the same results. Insanity is what runs the CA government. I saw a huge sign on I-5 heading north outside of the Bay Area. A big eagle with the words Had Enough? Vote Republican! Apparently Californians haven’t had enough yet!
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Lucky5 9/23/2020 11:53:15 AM (No. 549849)
#7 Same here. I live in a beautiful place with an amazing view and wonderful neighbors. It is hard to be in minority all the time politically, but I still love my own part of the state.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: smokincol 9/23/2020 12:01:04 PM (No. 549857)
People's Republic of California, except the "people" don't matter in California.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: enemyofthestate 9/23/2020 12:05:27 PM (No. 549863)
I wonder if "The California Exodus" has reached or will reach the demographic and social magnitude of the influx of migrants from the Dust Bowl in the thirties. Will books be written about it? The not-so-Golden State.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: TexaTucky 9/23/2020 12:38:41 PM (No. 549891)
I love California and selfishly hope that what's happening out there now will translate into reasonable real estate prices by the time I retire . . . far outside the cities that so many think represent all of California.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: udanja99 9/23/2020 12:44:59 PM (No. 549897)
I have new next door neighbors as of about 6 months ago. They are a young family with 2 kids and a third due any minute and they moved here from San Diego. When I asked why, they told me that they just couldn’t handle the mess, the taxes and the cost of living any longer.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Justcurious 9/23/2020 12:48:34 PM (No. 549900)
The people who build and invest are long gone, replaced by those who 'demand services.'
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Reply 17 - Posted by: TXknitter 9/23/2020 12:52:54 PM (No. 549904)
I applaud you #7. There are plenty of areas in my state that are nothing to be proud of (and no longer conservative by any means) but as you know, its simply cool to bash your state. I have had the blessing to live in a rural WA state area that is as you describe. The quality of life for our family was AWESOME too. Governors Abbott and DeSantis are welcoming many of the worst liberal elements into their states for economic prosperity. I am not against it but it may carry a bigger price than Texas and Florida wish to pay later on down the road.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: MickTurn 9/23/2020 1:55:18 PM (No. 549956)
The Democraps are really good at living up to their name...they Crap on every birthday cake they can, just because. They continue that habit in their sick twisted governance model...All for Me, Nothing for Thee!
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Reply 19 - Posted by: watashiyo 9/23/2020 3:22:20 PM (No. 550079)
Cousins live there. Wonder what's taking them so long to leave the state.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Folsomguy 9/23/2020 5:36:36 PM (No. 550233)
Actually #2 it began in 1974 with the help of a guy named jerry brown. (his name does not deserve capitals)
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