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In Kenosha, The Seeds of Civil War

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Posted By: MissMolly, 8/27/2020 4:39:29 AM

A previous entry in this space, written after an active-duty Army sergeant moonlighting as an Uber driver in Austin shot and killed a “mostly peaceful” anti-police protester who pointed his rifle at the driver at close range, talked about the make-believe revolution that has been taking place on the streets of America’s worst-run cities this summer: Was this a sad occurrence? Sure. It’s never a happy thing that a 28-year-old is gunned down on a city street in America. Yet what happened to Garrett Foster was bound to happen to someone, because too many Americans, particularly among the participants

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Reply 1 - Posted by: The Remnants 8/27/2020 6:06:45 AM (No. 522177)
FTA: (8TH from last paragraph) "That kind of atrocious leadership is by no means limited to Wisconsin." See also - article published, again in American Spectator, and posted at Lucianne on August 26, 2020, at 6:50 p.m., entitled: "Minnesota v. Derek Chauvin et al: The Prosecution's Dirty Little Secret" After reading, you have to wonder just who is responsible for George Floyd's death and the destruction that followed.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: George R. 8/27/2020 6:43:03 AM (No. 522204)
Scott McKay's informative reporting gives pause to the 1st degree murder consideration and opens the door for self defense....
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Reply 3 - Posted by: BarryNo 8/27/2020 6:43:31 AM (No. 522206)
Another point: someone was video recording these 'militias' for about five hours, it seems. The 17 yeR old shooter was featured several times in the first 4 hours, helping to clean up damage from previous riots. Somehow this kid gets separated from the group, is attacked first - shoots his attacker (headshot) starts to call (police), is attacked again by a mob who kicks him thrashes him with a skate board (centershot), and a man armed with a pistol tries to grab his gun and nearly gets his arm blown off. Why was this out of state kid there unsupervised and armed? Who was so busy video recording for hours, yet twitter released only that section of the video that made the kid look like the attacker? Why did the police not take his surrender - I understand he DID try to surrender to them, then arrest him the next day at home. Something stinks here. The kid was no lone school shooter or KKKwannabe. Something stinks bad.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Clinger 8/27/2020 8:16:22 AM (No. 522298)
This is a magnificent article and embodies everything that was going through my head. A must read. Previous comments have introduced things that had not occurred to me and I must agree, there may be something else going on. A first degree murder charge is not only ridiculous but an act of tyranny. There couldn't be a clearer case for self defense. Any laws he broke to put himself in that position should by all means apply. A kid seeking adventure wandering around in the middle of a riot openly illegally carrying a rifle doesn't get off the hook because he has a good story about a just cause. Half the country thinks that the BLM terrorists have a good story and good cause. The adults who enabled or encouraged him to break the law should also be held to account.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: greyseal 8/27/2020 8:19:40 AM (No. 522304)
#3 - the whole business was being live-streamed on YouTube. I watched about 3 hours Monday night and signed off just before this incident. I saw Kyle earlier in the evening with a group of armed adults attempting to defend their businesses. I watched as a group of BLM/anarchists who had been driven away from the courthouse descended on them and begin taunting them and trying to incite an incident (Interestingly, it was mostly the females in the crowd who were being confrontational). It was pretty obvious that something was about to break loose and that the "people's revolutionary movement" was trying their best to start it. Kyle shouldn't have been there and shouldn't have wandered off - he will now be another victim of BLM and their insurrection. May God have mercy on him because the media and politicians will not. greyseal
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Reply 6 - Posted by: BeatleJeff 8/27/2020 8:50:23 AM (No. 522352)
How does someone clearly acting in self-defense get charged with first-degree murder? Libtard DA's are a YUGE part of the problem.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Strike3 8/27/2020 8:52:41 AM (No. 522355)
Antifa and BLM have earned this sort of response. Kyle's age should not be made an issue, anybody being kicked and beaten has a right to defend himself regardless of local laws. He was attacked simply because he was holding a rifle, he did nothing aggressive until he was attacked. The thugs who died deserved what they got. They were not teenagers they were adult losers and certainly were not "peaceful protesters." The only real mystery to me is the number of females involved in this behavior. George Soros must pay them a heck of a lot to debase themselves in this way.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 8/27/2020 9:14:51 AM (No. 522387)
The seeds have sprouted. FTA - "I think the genie is out of the bottle. I think Kenosha showed us a glimpse of it. And I think unless the political class in states like Wisconsin, Oregon, Washington, New York, Minnesota, and elsewhere finally wakes up, the sad fact is it could well require thousands or even millions of Kyle Rittenhouses to put out the fires raging along Lake Michigan and elsewhere." Dark days lie ahead. Get prepared.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: The Remnants 8/27/2020 9:56:31 AM (No. 522460)
Forgive second post, but our justice system really has to be cleaned up. I believe it was President Clinton who fired every Attorney General. Trump can do that when he gets back in office (Please God), and then rehire the good guys.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: cor-vet 8/27/2020 10:00:25 AM (No. 522467)
Why does the fact that he's 17 mean anything. The only thing that matters is that he was defending himself.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: DVC 8/27/2020 10:10:57 AM (No. 522483)
Many have been saying that this will happen, including me, for months. I don't think the young man will be convicted. Three cases of self-defense, and there is video and eyewitnesses all over the place. FTA: "What did you morons think was going to happen? That you could continue burning down a small city in middle America without any resistance? People are going to defend their lives and property sooner or later, you know. You may have caught a break in that your nemesis turned out to be a 17-year-old you can cancel as a crazed would-be school shooter, but the next incident might very well run your people up against decorated Navy SEALS or Marines or retired cops with unblemished service records. Or just plain pillars of the community well-versed in firearms. Particularly in a place like Wisconsin where those with hunting licenses represent a fighting force as large as the army of many a small nation." Vicious idiot Marxist punks playing 'revolutionary' with ball bats and home made incendiary devices are predictably GOING to get forceful, armed pushback. Only the terminally stupid think otherwise.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: BarryNo 8/27/2020 10:11:17 AM (No. 522484)
Being 17, and below the age where you can be drafted, and must have parental sign-off on military service, means legally, he's not entirely responsible for his actions. He should not have access to a gun without parental supervision. Some states drivers licenses, I understand limit underage drivers from going out of state, alone. (Could be wrong on this one - hearsay). Anyone could have gotten into this mess. The only thing I can say for Kyle, is that it appears he's a good shot.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: DCGIRL 8/27/2020 10:14:58 AM (No. 522493)
As much as I hate to say this, civil war is coming to a neighborhood near you. The democrats continue to throw gas on this fire. Also, every person, corporation, etc. that donates money to BLM/Antifa owns this devastation that occurs in these cities and innocent business owners.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: DVC 8/27/2020 10:20:11 AM (No. 522503)
#10, you ask what difference his age makes. I can say, from my own experience, that I was an intelligent, conservative young man at age 17 but I was not nearly as capable of making sound choices as I was a few years later. I clearly remember a moment in time at age 20 when I was mentally reviewing some of the dumber things that I had done in the previous 3 or 4 years as a teen, several of which involved poor judgement of riding with people in their cars which could have resulted in a fatal accident because of really stupid driving. Even at age 20, I recognized the substantial increase in mature decision making in my self over just a few years. And I remember that day, almost 50 years ago, my last thought, thinking to myself, was "and, at age 20, you are probably not yet a paragon of maturity." I could easily see the change in myself, which surprised even me at the time. Seventeen year olds, however smart and well meaning they may be, have immature judgment processes, even compared to 19 or 20 year olds.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Italiano 8/27/2020 10:20:21 AM (No. 522505)
Obama's "Civilian National Security Force," by any chance?
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Blizzard 8/27/2020 10:37:47 AM (No. 522531)
The kid did us all a favor.... Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, was the first one killed. Video allegedly shows him chasing teen shooter & throwing something at him. Rosenbaum was a registered sex offender for a sex crime involving a minor. Anthony Huber, 26, was shot & killed in Kenosha, Wisc. at the BLM riot. He was filmed chasing down the armed teen and hitting him when he was on the ground with a skateboard. He has a criminal history that includes charges of battery & repeat domestic abuse. The third who was shot (& survived) is Gaige Grosskreutz, 26. He's a member of the People’s Revolution Movement. He was filmed chasing after the teen w/a pistol. He was shot at close-range in the upper arm. He has a criminal record that includes being intoxicated & armed w/a gun.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: MindMadeUp 8/27/2020 10:45:48 AM (No. 522550)
"The make-believe revolution" perfectly designates what has been going on. They think themselves as brave revolutionaries "fighting systemic racism" by waving their fists in the air and mindlessly chanting "black lives matter" for hours on end while safely watching fellow revolutionaries set fire to garbage cans and throw piss-filled balloons at cops with no consequences. Wait until the shooting really starts. Most will run home to their chic little rooms to watch Tik Tok and cry that it's Trump's fault.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: cor-vet 8/27/2020 10:48:09 AM (No. 522554)
I made some not so wise choices at 17, but what I meant in my question earlier was, why his age matters as he defended himself. Poor choices, like being in the wrong place at the wrong time happens to mature adults sometimes. Looking back, that could be why I found myself in SE Asia in the 60's.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: G Mo 8/27/2020 1:52:06 PM (No. 522807)
A great article.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: ROLFNader 8/27/2020 3:06:24 PM (No. 522902)
#8 is absolutely correct. These wanna be revolutionaries are NOT going to want to try it on THIS side of Lake Michigan...
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