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L.A. teachers union says schools
can't reopen unless charter schools
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Posted By: MissMolly, 7/12/2020 5:01:12 AM

A major teachers union is claiming that the re-opening of schools in its district cannot occur without several substantial policy provisions in place, including a "moratorium" on charter schools and the defunding of local police. United Teachers Los Angeles, a 35,000-strong union in the Los Angeles Unified School District, made those demands in a policy paper it released this week. The organization called on local authorities to "keep school campuses closed when the semester begins on Aug. 18." The union outlined numerous major provisions it says will be necessary to reopen schools again, including sequestering students

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Proud Texan 7/12/2020 5:46:29 AM (No. 475346)
I am quite sure the teachers have been getting paid all during this shutdown. With this move by their union, all pay and benefits should stop as of right now, and not start up again until school starts. No unemployment benefits for the teachers or any union workers either. Those lazy bass terds need a taste of what the general public has been receiving lately.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Ronaldus Magnus 7/12/2020 5:50:05 AM (No. 475349)
Remember what the head of the teacher's union stated when asked about the students: 'we'll be concerned about them when they have the right to vote.' So, between not voting, and not paying any union dues (which go directly to democRAT pockets, the 'children' are not anywhere on their list of concerns.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Toby Ten Bears 7/12/2020 6:04:51 AM (No. 475352)
Another hill for the D-RATS to die on!
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Reply 4 - Posted by: janjan 7/12/2020 6:15:05 AM (No. 475354)
This would be the perfect opportunity to shut down government run public schools permanently.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: lana720 7/12/2020 6:26:21 AM (No. 475355)
Of course, they’re serious. The corrupt .teacher’s Union OWNS the schools, teachers and you kids’ futures! They are an activist group with very nefarious interests. Look at who they fund! Trans whatever, PP, immigration of any and everybody, why, they sell “insurance” to their teachers but hardly ever step up to defend them. They need to be dissolved!
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Pathcoin1 7/12/2020 6:32:30 AM (No. 475356)
Students are not any more vulnerable to COVID-19 then to influenza. That is the science. Open the schools. Expand charter schools to meet the demand. There are plenty of landlords with empty buildings that would like house them in exchange for rent. Ideally as long as the lock down is in place no government worker should be paid and all benefits suspended.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: DCGIRL 7/12/2020 6:41:01 AM (No. 475360)
This is an easy one. Any school that does not open, no federal funds. That includes the 11th feed the children program that is incorporated into the federal funding package. Zero $$$$.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: subman47 7/12/2020 7:17:40 AM (No. 475374)
These demands have nothing to do with educating students. This is nothing but left wing radical blackmail. The planting of radical seeds is now starting to bare fruit. The union doesn't like charter schools. Why? Competition. The demand for defunding the police because of the murder of blacks? The numbers do not support that charge. The union does not follow the carnage that goes on in Chicago every weekend. Double digit victims shot. Double digit murders. many of them young people. And the underlying factor in 90% percent of these crimes. Black on black crimes. Blacks killing blacks. That's the problem that no one wants to talk about. I'd be curious to find out where the union gets its funds from? Mr. Soros maybe?
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Avanti1 7/12/2020 7:30:50 AM (No. 475381)
LA teachers have done a poor job of educating their students, yet they demand that charter schools be curtailed so parents of those students have no alternative opportunity for a quality education for their students. Charter schools should be promoted as a way to provide alternative, quality education for minority students.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: hammondb3 7/12/2020 7:35:33 AM (No. 475385)
Public school teachers are some of the most ignorant people you will ever run across. I think it was Voltaire who was reported to have earned money as a piano teacher by staying one lesson ahead of his students. Same thing with many public school teachers. They are not repositories of vast knowledge on their topic. They are a few steps ahead of the immature children they teach.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: coyote 7/12/2020 7:41:38 AM (No. 475394)
A person of my close aquantence taught in both a charter school and a public school. With the charter only extending to 6th grade, she said the charter students are going to be bored with they have to transfer. They would be going over material they knew, only waiting for the others to catch up, which some would never do completely. The charter was disciplined, studious, and loving. The public school was much less disciplined; it was noisy, chaotic at times. There is variety in both types of schools, but on average, I suspect this is a common situation.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: NancyD 7/12/2020 7:45:32 AM (No. 475396)
And here it is... They expose themselves every time. It’s all political
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Bur Oak 7/12/2020 7:54:35 AM (No. 475401)
Government employees should not be allowed to unionize.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: seamusm 7/12/2020 7:59:33 AM (No. 475403)
Unions ALWAYS overreach. But are these teachers willing to strike over this?
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Reply 15 - Posted by: LesUNo 7/12/2020 8:01:05 AM (No. 475407)
Well there you go. Anyone surprised? I once sat on a school board and was incredibly disappointed to discover that their agenda had absolutely nothing to do with children or curriculum. It was all about money and influence. School children have been ignored for a very long time. Have you ever heard teachers interviewed during one of their marches while on strike. They are required to have teaching degrees from accredited colleges and seem barely able to express themselves. It is appalling and only getting worse.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: udanja99 7/12/2020 8:15:28 AM (No. 475418)
#7, PDT has already stated that he will pull funding from any public school which remains closed. When the left went nuts, he simply asked why a closed school would need funding at all. But that’s way to logical for leftists to absorb.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Paperpuncher 7/12/2020 8:23:04 AM (No. 475430)
#10 add arrogant to the ignorant. They think they are smarter than anyone else because they are a teacher.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Lawsy0 7/12/2020 8:26:31 AM (No. 475434)
See? I told'ja they were stupid!
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Reply 19 - Posted by: rsgonner 7/12/2020 8:28:22 AM (No. 475437)
Leave them closed and furlough the "nonessential" teachers.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: anniebc 7/12/2020 8:32:07 AM (No. 475441)
All LA district schools that receive funding for every military child enrolled should be denied that funding until LA district school politicians and teacher unions love the country again. Leftists hate competition, because they're losers.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Strike3 7/12/2020 8:40:33 AM (No. 475451)
Defund the teachers' unions. These groups of democrat voters put money first and the education of children last. Many small towns have nearly gone bankrupt while being squeezed for money to build new schools, pay high salaries and benefits to too many teachers and being forced to support the democrat party through property taxes.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: paral04 7/12/2020 8:40:44 AM (No. 475452)
Would the knowledge of these public school kids change at all if they did close down? They don't know much anyway after graduating.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: erobot 7/12/2020 8:54:47 AM (No. 475469)
First re-outlaw all public sector (includes teachers) unions and everything else will follow. Union thugs led by the left have been running the country since the sainted martyr signed an EO allowing them. They have been pushing us leftward and deliberately mis-informing our school children for three generations and counting. Kids can't do simple arithmetic or sign even sign their own names -- forget history -- they get the left's version of it.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Quigley 7/12/2020 9:20:41 AM (No. 475513)
I guess they (the teachers onion) are saying only trailer park trash goes to LA public schools. Because if the elite’s children went, they wouldn’t dare threaten this.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: HotRod 7/12/2020 9:36:51 AM (No. 475548)
Make private schools tax exempt, and all tuition and fees exempt too. Americans want choice and freedom! Far-left politics and government bureaucrats have no business being anywhere near our children!
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Reply 26 - Posted by: moebellini3 7/12/2020 9:40:57 AM (No. 475556)
Think about it. Now teachers unions are putting demands in our cities. You see, these communist coul care less about your children. Sure get rid of Charter Schools which are in direct competition with public schools. Its easier to indoctrinate your kids when they're all under the same umbrella. Now they even want to control the police. This is what unions do. All they do is disrupt, collect their dues and with your dues they support every communist campaign. This is how they suppress blacks in democratic/communist cities like Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore and others. They refuse to give black kids school choice. Keep'em dumb and you keep their vote. Its been working for over 60 years. Wake up...
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Arby 7/12/2020 9:47:30 AM (No. 475568)
Nothing like a little blackmail to start off the school year.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: columba 7/12/2020 10:20:11 AM (No. 475621)
The teachers union has been out of step with reality for years.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: MickTurn 7/12/2020 10:22:31 AM (No. 475624)
Sorry Commies, we DO NOT follow your 'mandates', they are not just dishonest and highly divisive, they are just plain STUPID!
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Reply 30 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 7/12/2020 10:24:18 AM (No. 475628)
Can it be any more clear? The LA teacher's union does not support its teachers. Nor does it support the students they are suppose to be teaching. Defund the police? You would be better off defunding the teacher's union. They aren't doing their job.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 7/12/2020 10:35:03 AM (No. 475645)
UTLA, don't waste your time. Loss of federal dollars coming to you. Your schools close, and so will your gravy train jobs. Funny how that works. Right, lefties?
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Reply 32 - Posted by: DARling 7/12/2020 11:24:41 AM (No. 475696)
An education apparatus that delivers such poor results is in no position to make demands. The leftists are currently emboldened by the lack of a response towards rioters who can deface and destroy with impunity anything between a statue of Frederick Douglass and one of a kitchen sink. Classroom teachers and brick and mortar schools are no longer the only game in town. The COVID-19 crisis has shined a light on education and the leftist teachers are the scurrying cockroaches running around in circles.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: Trapper 7/12/2020 11:24:49 AM (No. 475697)
Time for some of the LA teachers to get together and form a group to work to de-certify their current union led by rabid marxists, and form a new union to take its place. There are perfectly legal ways to fight this. Time someone got started.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: DVC 7/12/2020 11:27:52 AM (No. 475702)
I hope that they can't sell this garbage, but, hey, it's California - the garbage that they have already sold is difficult to believe.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: SALady 7/12/2020 11:40:37 AM (No. 475718)
Teachers wanting to defund the police. And when they are cowering in their classrooms as a shooter has hours (not just minutes like if the cops were on their way) to walk around campus and shoot anyone he wants, I guess they will find comfort in knowing that the city will provide social workers to comfort their survivors. If my kids were young today, I would be home schooling. No ifs, ands, or buts!!!!!
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Reply 36 - Posted by: Highvoltage 7/12/2020 11:56:51 AM (No. 475735)
The teacher's union deprive the poor of alternatives to failing public schools. How long will the poor let them do this?
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Reply 37 - Posted by: Periwinkel 7/12/2020 12:00:11 PM (No. 475741)
What is it with Union Teachers and Charter Schools? Those old ladies surely have a big hate for Charter Schools. Could it be the Charters teach more with less money and teach it better??
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Reply 38 - Posted by: Right Time 7/12/2020 12:05:15 PM (No. 475747)
These demands that have nothing to do with the teachers union, like defunding the police, federal bailout of school districts, Medicare For All, shuttering of independent charter schools, new CA taxes on the wealthy, etc., have NOTHING TO DO with the public school teachers union, is none of their concern, and are impossible to meet by the California Dept of Education, because they have no jurisdiction over them. In a word, the demands are CHILDIDH, and have nothing to do with public school teachers, and are beyond the teacher union's say. TEACHERS-- REPORT TO WORK OR BE FIRED
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Reply 39 - Posted by: Right Time 7/12/2020 12:10:35 PM (No. 475759)
CHILDISH
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Reply 40 - Posted by: Are You Serious 7/12/2020 12:11:59 PM (No. 475760)
Had California a political leader with balls, he would tell the teachers union "Those who do not report for duty of day #1 will be terminated immediately with no chance of being rehired". Period.
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Reply 41 - Posted by: snowoutlaw 7/12/2020 12:13:04 PM (No. 475763)
Never let a crises go to waste. I see the NEA and UTLA is still fighting any reform. I'd vote to de-fund the public schools and put all the billions into charters and private schools.
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Reply 42 - Posted by: Twinkle93 7/12/2020 12:14:50 PM (No. 475767)
LA spends $13,000+ per student. Offer all parents vouches of $12,000 per child to go to school of choice and decrease the school budget accordingly. Also, if public schools are not open, no pay for public school teachers.
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Reply 43 - Posted by: Polecat49 7/12/2020 1:28:29 PM (No. 475853)
Just goes to PROVE that school teachers DO NOT give a damn about STUDENTS or PUBLIC SAFETY. Like any other ?union? they say to H-LL with the American People.
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Reply 44 - Posted by: RedWhite&Blue2 7/12/2020 1:59:37 PM (No. 475870)
I’m a teechur.... I went to a colledge... I studied Marx and lenin.. Gimme doze kids!
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Reply 45 - Posted by: Starboard_side 7/12/2020 2:14:32 PM (No. 475880)
First, YES, they are serious, and it's about getting rid of any sort of competition. Charter schools are popular with Hispanic and African-American parents looking for a better opportunity for their child. This could be a winning slogan asking why they don't want your child to have the best chance for success? Also, this would present a good time to talk about breaking up the excessively large LAUSD system, and use a lot of the same rhetoric about not being truly representative.
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Reply 46 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab 7/12/2020 2:33:31 PM (No. 475912)
Good. Stay out. The kids will be somewhat less propagandized.
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Reply 47 - Posted by: SALady 7/12/2020 3:35:20 PM (No. 475976)
If schools don't open, then no teachers or other school staff receive a penny of salaries, no benefits are provided, and not a second is accrued toward retirement. And the school district doesn't get a penny of federal education money. They want to play this game, then they aren't going to like how the other side plays!!!!
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Reply 48 - Posted by: or gate 7/12/2020 3:47:52 PM (No. 475991)
Those people can just buy a pickup truck with a guy rack in the back window.
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Reply 49 - Posted by: NotaBene 7/12/2020 4:28:25 PM (No. 476036)
This Communist Union elects Democrats. Education, not Indoctrination! Charter Schools in LA bus in, and feed, tons of Black and Mexican/Central American children. Unfortunately, Cardinal Dolan just closed permanently 20 schools in NYC because of these Communist BLMs.
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Reply 50 - Posted by: KTWO 7/12/2020 4:34:23 PM (No. 476039)
a quick observation. Union contracts normally have an expiration date. Then a new contract goes into effect. So how long does the current contract last? And will the LAUSD have any obligation whatever to the union or a teacher when it expires? Just asking,
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Reply 51 - Posted by: PESSIMIST 7/12/2020 5:31:55 PM (No. 476096)
Moral cowards who are propitiating juvenile delinquents in their classrooms.
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Reply 52 - Posted by: BarryNo 7/12/2020 7:16:41 PM (No. 476159)
Sounds to me like the teachers union in L.A. needs to be disbanded, the teachers fired, the you can hire new, including a select few from the old union who weren't part of this foolishness. Or... do without public ed. It's been pretty sucky for the last 60 years or so, at least.
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Reply 53 - Posted by: Zigrid 7/12/2020 7:26:27 PM (No. 476170)
If I lived in California ... I would get packing....my children would not be a bargaining chip for politicians.....I lived tho rough Chicago's busing demands ... we parents emptied the public schools and saved the catholic school system....my children thrived in the private school system and are all successful professionals today.... three doctors and one micro biologist... and here's to you... Mayor Daley... whose children went to PRIVATE SCHOOLS... don't mess with Mama Bear!!
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Reply 54 - Posted by: doctorfixit 7/12/2020 9:14:19 PM (No. 476266)
Good. Don't re-open them. Shut them down for good.
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Reply 55 - Posted by: Polecat49 7/13/2020 11:39:24 AM (No. 476868)
Why should the la so-called schools EVER be re-opened? All they turn out is uneducated Anti-American kids.
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Reply 56 - Posted by: PESSIMIST 7/13/2020 4:13:33 PM (No. 477110)
A bunch of cowards whose only goal is to appease the minority of predatory juvenile delinquents who disrupt learning in big city classrooms. No school in September, no pay. Of course, if they don't want to work because of "safety" considerations (Does anyone listen to sanitation men with the same fear?) they don't have to. They can stay home and feed themselves some other way. As the abortionists say: "If you don't want an abortion, don't have one."
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Last night a group of anti-gentrification protesters in Seattle marched through a section of town for a couple hours to complain that white people were living on stolen land. Well, not stolen exactly. They aren’t claiming the black people who used to live in this neighborhood were pushed out at gunpoint. But they are claiming that an injustice has taken place because white people are now living in new homes in this formerly black neighborhood.The crowd of maybe 50 people was marching down the street after dark chanting “Black people used to live here!”
"By Any Means Necessary": New Boise billboard touts
Black, Brown contributions to America
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Posted by jimincalif 8/14/2020 10:01:14 AM Post Reply
Commuters driving into downtown Boise the morning of Aug. 13 may have seen a new colorful billboard sign that reads “Black & Brown Folks Built This Country / (And We’re Doing It Again) / Join Us Or Get Out Of The Way.” It’s a strong phrase, and activist/organizer Tanisha Jae Newton said they are radically unapologetic about it. “This message is for folks within impacted communities to know that people recognize them and see them and their power,” said Newton. “These communities need hope and empowerment.”
‘This is Out of Control': Downtown
Residents Worry As Crime Soars
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Posted by NorthernDog 8/14/2020 9:24:15 AM Post Reply
On Monday, all of America reeled at the sight of Chicago's Magnificent Mile being pillaged by roaming bands of thieves, who seemed to move with abandon through the city's downtown. Just one week prior, news networks spread similar images of a shootout in front of high-end boutiques on Oak Street. To downtown residents like Gary Hebding, it was no surprise. Hebding said he has seen continued crime downtown in recent months. "This is never something I've seen before in the four years that I've lived here," he said. "Those incidents are coming here downtown, and they are happening right here
Mika Meltdown:: MSNBC Host Loses It
On Show While Repeatedly Berating Trump
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Posted by Imright 8/15/2020 1:07:03 AM Post Reply
MSNBC “Morning Joe” co-host Mika Brzezinski repeatedly ranted throughout Friday’s broadcast of the show over everything Donald Trump, suggesting that he was intentionally letting people die from COVID-19. Brzezinski, who appeared to be in a near state of rage throughout the show, repeatedly berated the president with names, and later, at the end of the show, said, “If you’re sensing a little intensity here, I’m a little amped up because this is an emergency.” The video clip below, compiled by Grabien News founder Tom Elliott, is a supercut video that shows the highlights from Brzezinski’s ravings. Transcript and video below:
Graham on Harris: 'No issue'
as to whether 'she is an American citizen'
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Posted by Ladyhawke 8/14/2020 12:44:58 PM Post Reply
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) broke with President Trump on Friday by saying there is no debate over whether Sen. Kamala Harris is a U.S. citizen, remarks that came after the president encouraged a conspiracy theory that the California Democrat may not be eligible to serve as vice president because her parents are immigrants. In a pair of tweets, Graham, a frequent defender of Trump, said he disagreed with Harris on “plenty of issues,” calling her “one of the most liberal members of the U.S. Senate.” But he said there should be no debate over her citizenship status.
Mayor apologizes for saying Biden
picked ‘Aunt Jemima’ as VP
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Posted by snakeoil 8/14/2020 3:39:57 PM Post Reply
A Virginia mayor has apologized for saying Joe Biden “just announced Aunt Jemima” as his running mate, saying he now understands his words were hurtful and inappropriate. Luray Mayor Barry Presgraves, 77, said he was sorry at a town council meeting on Monday for the Aug. 2 Facebook post that was later removed — but not before a council member, town officials and residents in the community called for the three-term mayor to step down. “I understand what I posted on social media was wrong, offensive and unbecoming,” Presgraves said during the meeting, WTOP reports. “I also want to make a direct apology to all people of color and women.
Ex-F.B.I. Lawyer Expected to Plead Guilty
in Durham Investigation
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Posted by earlybird 8/14/2020 12:11:01 PM Post Reply
WASHINGTON — A former F.B.I. lawyer intends to plead guilty to falsifying a document as part of a deal with prosecutors conducting their own criminal inquiry of the Russia investigation, according to three people familiar with the case. The lawyer, Kevin Clinesmith, 38, who was assigned to the Russia investigation, plans to admit that he altered an email from the C.I.A. that investigators relied on to seek renewed court permission in 2017 for a secret wiretap on the former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, who had at times provided information to the spy agency. Mr. Clinesmith’s lawyers said he made a mistake while trying to clarify facts for a colleague,
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