Flynn never pled guilty
American Thinker,
by
Tadas Klimas
Original Article
Posted By: Maryland_Patriot,
6/27/2020 11:50:29 AM
It is big news concerning retired Lt. General Michael Flynn. An appellate court has sided with the government’s motion to dismiss the criminal charges against him.
While the rest of us rejoice that the rule of law seems to be prevailing in this matter, at long last, that the great injustice being perpetrated against Flynn and indeed against all of us has been at least temporarily stymied, we hear belligerent lost souls screaming out:
“But Flynn pled guilty.”
To which one should reply,
“No, he did not.”
The short explanation is that the statute requires materiality.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 6/27/2020 12:00:20 PM (No. 459132)
Oooh! Oooh! The NeverFlynn trolls on this board are NOT going to be happy.
"He pled guilty" has been their constant refrain - - even though there was no crime to which to plead guilty. Gen. Flynn was bludgeoned and brow-beaten by an all-powerful, corrupt prosecution. He copped a plea to a non-crime only after his life savings were stolen from him - - and a threat was made to prosecute Flynn's completely innocent son - - and a mountain of exculpatory evidence was illegally withheld from him.
"But - - but - - he pled guilty! He pled guilty!" The dying words of sick sycophants.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
DVC 6/27/2020 12:36:41 PM (No. 459164)
Lots of reasons that this was a hideous miscarriage of justice, much like something the soviets would do. That Judge Sullivan continues this horror show is a smear on Sullivan, showing his corruption and lack of honor.
The fact that the investigation was fraudulent from the beginning will apparently never be admitted by the bay state poster. At this point, I just let the irrational 'reasoning' slide by.
Flynn is innocent, was railroaded in a horrible FBI/DoJ abuse of power reminiscent of the KGB, and if someone who claims to be conservative can't see that as an extreme wrong that must be righted...I'm done.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Sandbar 6/27/2020 12:38:19 PM (No. 459166)
I know that Sullivan has cancelled his scheduled hearing. i know that he has the option of asking the full court to rule but have a question. Now that the appellate court has ruled, is there a time limit on how long Sullivan can delay before taking some kind of action?
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
davew 6/27/2020 12:38:51 PM (No. 459168)
This points out that modern prosecutors use plea deals as an extortion tactic to avoid having to prove a crime for which they lack sufficient evidence. Rather than tie up the courts and juries with a lengthy and expensive trial that they know they can't win they get the accused to "plead" to something less so they can get on with their life and preserve their own life savings. It has nothing to do with the actual truth of the charges. Almost every defendant in a court case pleads "not guilty" even though most of them and their lawyers know this is untrue. What they mean is "I'm innocent until the state proves otherwise to a jury".
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
john56 6/27/2020 12:40:22 PM (No. 459170)
Simple. The plea was never accepted becaise a sentence was never imposed.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
seamusm 6/27/2020 12:41:09 PM (No. 459172)
I want Obama and Biden impeached. Among a multitude of crimes, he and Biden committed 'high' crimes using the fed apparatus to illegally spy on Trump's people manufacturing evidence along the way. I don't even care if the Senate failed to find them guilty though that would be sweet indeed.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
NYbob 6/27/2020 12:43:56 PM (No. 459173)
He who laughs last. #1 speaks for me on this issue.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
stablemoney 6/27/2020 2:22:14 PM (No. 459250)
Please look up and read the definition of quibling, and then dismiss this ridiculous case against Flynn, so he can file his lawsuits against the government for illegally framing him and persecuting him.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
DVC 6/27/2020 3:28:45 PM (No. 459303)
That is an excellent question, #3. I have wondered the same thing, and downloaded a copy of the 38 page court order and read most of it, although the dissent is just a joke, IMO, and I was impressed that Judge Rao took the time to put together seven separate points AFTER her arguement which specifically refute the dissent points by the dissenting judge.
The meat of the order is this:
"For the foregoing reasons, we grant Flynn’s petition for a
writ of mandamus in part and direct the district court to grant
the government’s Rule 48(a) motion to dismiss. In light of that
grant, we vacate the district court’s order appointing an amicus
as moot. See Great W. Sugar Co. v. Nelson, 442 U.S. 92, 94
(1979).
So ordered."
I see no time limit there, so I guess that Sullivan can sit on this forever. I would love for one of the real lawyers on the site to chime in about here and tell us if there is some presumed time limit on a court order like this. Will the Appeals Court just let this lay until the election? Will Sidney Powell have to file some other sort of a request of the Appeals Court to set a deadline for compliance by Judge Sullivan to their order? Can Sullivan appeal the the whole Appeals Court en banc, or does an Appeals Court judge have to do that?
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 6/27/2020 4:02:58 PM (No. 459335)
#7 - - Yes - - we have had the last laugh.
Notice that the gutless, defeated trolls have not shown up on this thread. They are DONE.
WINNING!
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
jeffkinnh 6/27/2020 4:40:54 PM (No. 459357)
I would also like to point out that whatever Flynn's arrangement was with the prosecutors, we did NOT lie to the FBI. From the transcripts I have seen, for every question asked, Flynn attached "I'm not sure". That should mean that it impossible to say he lied because he encircled all his statements with the possible failure to remember events correctly.
Like many plea agreements, what he agreed to was a legal fiction that all could accept to terminate prosecution. However, he was ill served by his lawyers who had been pressured and threatened by the prosecution. That alone should trigger a mistrial. Flynn effectively was robbed of representation. Now we have the information that all the evidence was faked.
A judge interested in justice would be eager to throw out this travesty. Sullivan is obviously not interested in justice. His ego is obviously in play but you have to wonder what else is going on? He is going to desperate measures to continue this.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
bighambone 6/27/2020 6:38:22 PM (No. 459425)
Not only did Flynn not plead guilty to an actual legal statutory crime, but Sullivan never has said that he convicted Flynn of any criminal offense, or sentenced Flynn for violating any law. The Appeals Court gave Sullivan a way out of his current legal fiasco. The question is, is he smart enough to find that way out?
The real culprits here are the first set of incompetent, and maybe politicized lawyers that Flynn hired and who advised Flynn to plead guilty to a non crime without seeing all the exculpatory evidence that has now been brought out for everyone to see. Apparently those lawyers are in the same law firm as Obama's Attorney General Eric Holder.
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