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The FISA Scandal Is about
Corruption, Not ‘Sloppiness’

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Posted By: MissMolly, 4/3/2020 4:51:27 AM

Consider this scenario: A federal lawyer is filling out applications requesting FISA warrants to spy on American citizens who work for a major presidential campaign to determine whether the campaign staffers are collaborating with a foreign power to steal the presidency of the United States. They must know that such a conspiracy, should it be exposed, would be the most explosive in the history of the nation — towering over the piddling criminality of Watergate or the Teapot Dome scandal. And any genuine effort to ferret out criminality and sedition within one of the nation’s major parties — perhaps going a high as the future president himself —

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Reply 1 - Posted by: George R. 4/3/2020 6:24:31 AM (No. 366791)
So long as the corrupt Swamp Rat Caretaker Barr is in Charge, we'll get smoke and Mirrors. At least Sessions told us he wouldn't do a damn thing as AG, while Barr lied and said he would. Proof of corruption: Barr is life long buddies with Mueller, even their wives are besties at church. Any competent honest prosecutor would have had people convicted by this time, we don't even have a smell of an indictment.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 4/3/2020 7:04:37 AM (No. 366820)
Where is the best place to hide a shovelful of manure? Inside a PILE of manure as per "The Purloined Letter". The BO's administration realized this and understood that to discover their deliberate acts of criminal investigations within the general "sloppiness" of procedures would be difficult. You would have to determine a directed pattern that proves intent. Further, such patterns always lead to some doubt about the pattern discovered. If 96% of actions are flawed, the discovery of many of the same nature can imply "typical" error, rather than criminal intent. It was very devious. What is clear is that it is IMPOSSIBLE for the FBI to be a watchdog for the rights of the American People concerning FISA, both in character, being a prosecutorial agent by design, and by apparent lack of capability. A 96% failure rate implies uncorrectable incompetence. Further, it implies that the FBI (and intelligence agencies) are in desperate need of a serious shakeup and remake.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Lazyman 4/3/2020 7:21:33 AM (No. 366835)
Probable Cause is the first thing taught to Law Enforcement. This was not a training issue, it was separate criminal acts or a conspiracy.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: The Remnants 4/3/2020 7:44:50 AM (No. 366857)
Is there a statute of limitation for the FISA crimes? Delay, Delay, Delay - Sorry, Too Late. The rabbit hole is becoming over populated.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: fayebeck 4/3/2020 7:53:49 AM (No. 366866)
Does anyone know if Lindsey is still thinking about it?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: DCGIRL 4/3/2020 7:55:50 AM (No. 366868)
No sloppiness here. It was all done intentional. This was pure corruption all the up the way through the chain of command. Comey, McCabe and Rosenstein carry a majority of the blame and should be serving time. The only way to fix this is for people to go to jail. Make them examples. Also, don't forget the FISA judges that just rubber stamped these documents and approved the warrants. They too carry a lot of the blame.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 4/3/2020 8:15:54 AM (No. 366892)
So far, watching paint dry is more exciting than waiting for the indictments. I still think it will be mid-year before the first indictments come.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Rinktum 4/3/2020 8:20:18 AM (No. 366899)
Sadly, I am not hopeful that we will see prosecution in this matter. Time, distraction of other issues and now this present crisis will allow this to be ignored. Clearly, there is no appetite in Washington DC for justice. It has become political sport to attack this President whether it is done legally or illegally. I would like to believe that there were enough Republicans to push for a real investigation into the attempt by the democrats to falsely frame the President in order to remove him from office, but I just don’t see it. We ignore this coup d’etat at the expense of the health of the Republic and the trust of millions of Americans. Those of out here in flyover country do not understand the lack of courage from those in Washington who have sworn to defend and protect the Constitution. We hold those words to be sacred and the political class blithely call it business as usual. This is infuriating to Americans who have seen the evidence that has been revealed. Democrats and the Deep State have made a mockery of justice and apparently will pay no price as they continue to arrogantly pursue the destruction of this administration. I fear the political class is incapable of confronting the corruption because they have neither the stomach for it or the courage. Our leaders have failed not only us but the Republic.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Clinger 4/3/2020 8:20:27 AM (No. 366900)
Just like when someone was sloppy in handling her emails. So where are we America? We had this phenomenal design in our founding and we are at the point where it takes a great deal of work to deny that we are not that country any more. By some process of gradually giving away to growing government we reached a point where we are seriously contemplating socialism, or admitting it. We have Trump stirring the pot making small strides to reverse the ratchet of growing government, but in general it only goes one way until it breaks. Trump is using the swamp as much as he is trying to drain the swamp. I'm not sure what alternatives he has until we the people provide an entirely new generation in both the House and Senate. He's doing great with the Judiciary. Hillary is still free as a bird yet we know for a fact she colluded with foreign governments to fabricate a scandal and sway our election yet to this day much of our country would lock Trump for the same crime after he has been vindicated. They would still gladly lock Trump up for strong arming Ukraine, also proven untrue while Gropey Joe is free as a bird despite video of him doing exactly what they tried to pin on Trump. Win in November, go through another 4 years of one witch hunt after another and then what? Who are we going to trot out there in 2024 that can carry on after Trump? Would Cruz be a difference maker now that he's seen one in action? Or would he just desperately hang on the the Trump gains until the next democrat resumes the march to totalitarianism. And another Trump is far from the answer. We need another Jefferson, Madison, hell give us Calvin Coolidge. Trump opened the door but we need a fundamental shift back to our founding. Trump is not that guy, but that guy if he or she were to come along they wouldn't stand a chance without the Trump shake up of a complacent herd of sheep.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 4/3/2020 8:23:00 AM (No. 366902)
I think the typos and errors reflect a much more disturbing picture than FBI lackeys doing poor work. I suspect they were completed by FBI higher ups who were unfamiliar and incompetent with this menial paperwork task, and did not dare submit their work to anyone else for review. Any secretary would have caught the typos. This theory would also make the judges who received this "sloppy" work complicit. If they were truly involved in "oversight", they would have refused to accept these applications. The most revealing evidence of all in this conspiracy was when Judge John Roberts appointing a liberal replacement for the FISA judge who stepped down when she was exposed.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Burninfilm 4/3/2020 9:14:52 AM (No. 366971)
It could be that the superiors did this as your theory supposes, but it could also be reflective of our poor educational system and affirmative action hires...Just saying
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Reply 12 - Posted by: OBX Pete 4/3/2020 9:15:55 AM (No. 366972)
I got here too late. There is nothing I can add to the outstanding posts above. This could be the most outstanding list of posts I have seen since I have become addicted to Lucianne.com.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: little guy 4/3/2020 9:24:43 AM (No. 366983)
Yeah ... and the ChiCom government was sloppy with its handling of the Wuhan virus and the Russians were sloppy with their handling of the Chernobyl disaster. Give me a break. We need a FISA court to catch potential terrorists, they said. We would never --- ever --- spy on fellow American citizens, they said. And there will be many checks and balances and safeguards and we will be scrupulously careful, they said. A huge pack of lies a camel couldn't carry. Nothing short of indictments and convictions will clear the air now. Until then, the stench from the FBI building will resemble a sewer and linger for years.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: RuckusTom 4/3/2020 9:44:44 AM (No. 367013)
When's Durham's report come out? There's a good reason to panic everyone with Flu Manchu.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 4/3/2020 9:52:16 AM (No. 367024)
The main lesson to be learned from the Kung Flu fiasco - - is that Trump has been sucked into the swamp. We all had high hopes that he would drain the swamp - - but now he is a part of it. His caving on massive government subsidies and bailouts carries over to his lack of desire to prosecute the very people who maligned him - - from Little 0bie and The Beast down to their lackey toadies in the CISA, FBI, and DOJ. It's over, my friends - - they're all socialists and swamp creatures now.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: stablemoney 4/3/2020 10:16:12 AM (No. 367058)
The FBI, leadership and rank and file, is sloppy, per the NYTs, inaccurate, according to Horowitz, 95% of the time. Add to this, lying to the American people 100% of the time, and lying to Congress 100% of the time. Then on top, providing false forensics in court, a large percentage of the time. And this: the FBI is headed by dufus, Christopher Wray, who has sent out a memo to remind agents that they should follow procedures to address these problems, nothing further deemed necessary. Meanwhile, the FISA courts, headed by John Roberts, have not felt it necessary to ask any followup questions concerning reports of corruption and inaccuracies. These are the authorities. The same ones that are telling us to stay home.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Krause 4/3/2020 11:14:34 AM (No. 367159)
I think, when it comes to fraud issues, lies, misinformation, etc, supplied to a court, the NYT appears to have a minimum threshold of serious crimes and highly unethical behavior of 400 incidents (by democrats) until it becomes an issue. Now, if it's Trump doing this, it's about 1/2 half of one that turns on the extremely loud sirens. That's how riduclously bad the left media is.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: DVC 4/3/2020 11:17:39 AM (No. 367163)
Dozens and dozens of willful, intentional, carefully thought out FELONIES by top FBI officials. There should be a lot of them in prison for this. This is not a minor incident, and these were not "errors".
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Reply 19 - Posted by: doctorfixit 4/3/2020 1:27:01 PM (No. 367287)
FISA is an enemy of the people. FISA judges are part of the conspiracy. They question nothing. They allow the Deep State to proceed with no evidence, no verification. Illustrating the total corruption of Washington.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: RedWhite&Blue2 4/3/2020 1:40:27 PM (No. 367304)
We’re buried in schiff And it stinks up our country Swamp rats always skate While we read “reports” Lock them all up! STAT!
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Reply 21 - Posted by: bighambone 4/3/2020 1:45:22 PM (No. 367314)
If all those paperwork errors by that many DOJ/FBI lawyers are thought of by their politicized apologists as being just “sloppiness” are reflective of lawyers in general, you want to stay away from lawyers as much as possible. The only problem with that is that there was so much “sloppiness” that the whole exercise reeks of big time politically based corruption.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Mother of AL 4/3/2020 1:56:59 PM (No. 367326)
Here is something these ba$!ards need to keep in mind. All of Washington feel they are *essential* so they are probably getting out and around. However us poor schmucks in flyover land are not able to get out. So we are getting a bit testy, to put it mildly. We are living in an hotel right now, as my husband is a physician working Locums in a hospital in Florida. So we are living in a hotel room, with my husband, myself and our 100 lb German Shepherd! It is much better with our dog, as we would have had to be away from him since the 1st of the year. However, I am getting more than a little stressed out and it doesn't take a lot for me to be not too happy!!! A whole country in that state of mind is something the government might want to avoid. Another thing....off topic of FISA however on topic of what I am speaking about ..just now watching Fox and Harris Faulkner. She is talking with Gen Mark Milley, Chairman of Joint Chief of Staff. He is at FEMA headquarters talking about the hosp ships. I can see the FEMA employees in the background, and they are all huddled in small groups, and moving among the groups. THEY ARE NOT MAINTAINING 6 FEET DISTANCE. They seem to be having a good time talking. I'm sure they are working for us, but so are a lot of people out here but WE have to maintain a distance. That is something that won't sit well with us idiots in flyover country again. But why should I be upset with clear evidence of the double standard again!!
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Mother of AL 4/3/2020 2:03:30 PM (No. 367338)
Sorry for the 2nd post. Love #14 post....Flu Manchu.....ha ha ha. Great!!
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Reply 24 - Posted by: lostinmassachusetts 4/3/2020 2:29:29 PM (No. 367368)
If none of the parties involved in these crimes is prosecuted for their guilt, then Law and Order in these United States is truly dead.
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