How ‘The Irishman’ went from Oscars
2020 front-runner to biggest loser
by
Johnny Oleksinski
Original Article
Posted By: Imright,
2/10/2020 4:40:50 AM
The Oscars 2020 proved the cement shoes for Netflix’s “The Irishman.” The downturn began on Jan. 6, when viewers tuned into the 2020 Golden Globe Awards expecting to hear a few familiar names: Marty, Pesci or perhaps Pacino. The Hollywood icons were seated at a table smack-dab down front, stage right, so it would be easy for the living legends to take the stage at the Beverly Hilton Hotel quickly when they inevitably won. But those seats would only become warmer and warmer as the night went on, because instead we heard different people called up: Sam Mendes, Brad Pitt and, most improbably, “1917.”
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Rinktum 2/10/2020 6:33:11 AM (No. 313609)
Stopped going to most movies years ago. I refuse to give Hollywood a dime since they openly ridicule my values and lifestyle. I see maybe one or two movies a year if that and I do not miss them. The actors have turned me off with their virulent hate of the President and anyone who supports him. If Hollywood disappeared tomorrow, we would all be better for it. It is nothing but a propaganda factory pumping out progressive dogma.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Kitty Myers 2/10/2020 6:48:20 AM (No. 313619)
I watched THE IRISHMAN on tv, even though it starred that Trump hating idiot DeNiro, The movie was awful.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Jebediah 2/10/2020 6:54:06 AM (No. 313623)
Maybe.......... But obviously Hollywood didn't get the message (and it is a shame Scorsese had to suffer because of DiNiro, but I may add the movie was NOT good): Brad Pitt, for one, put in his John Bolton two cents, etc. Almost pathetically predictable. But for me the MOST egregious slap in the face was Hanoi Jane, to massive applause, giving out the best picture award!!!!!!!! When I think of the POW's who suffered the consequences of her, she never apologizing since with any sincerity, and the men suffering horrendous consequences when she handed their pathetic notes for help over to the Vietcong!!!!! And now she flies private to combat Global Warming to great Press coverage! What a total slap in the face to the Nation that Hollywood would pick THIS woman to give out the most prestigious award, met with roars of applause by the glittering audience! No wonder comic book retreads are the box office winners nowadays. They offer all that the rest of Hollywood dismisses.
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raspberry 2/10/2020 6:56:23 AM (No. 313624)
No one in my circle ever goes to the movies because of the caustic anti Americanism in the films or the subversive actors. Hollywood seeks to define and influence our culture. God save us.
I watched a great old film on tv last week. It was 80 years old! Where are the great films today? I have not been in a theater since my grown children were kids. And I will not go again.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Rather Read 2/10/2020 7:48:14 AM (No. 313660)
I went to one movie last year. It was Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and I loved it. I thought the acting was wonderful, especially Brad Pitt's performance and I praised him to the skies. I still think his performance was wonderful, but what happened to the funny, self deprecating speeches like the one at the Golden Globes, or the one that Margot Robbie gave on is behalf at the BAFTA? I suspect that the speechwriters were at fault (they work for Obama) and it just goes to show that he and his minions ruin everything.
Next year, I plan to see the new Ghostbusters and take my grandchildren. That's about it.
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Strike3 2/10/2020 7:57:14 AM (No. 313667)
Most current movies are a complete waste of time and some theaters now feature bedbugs as an added bonus to your ten-dollar popcorn. Too bad about "The Irishman" but they can always put the label, "Oscar Nominated" on it like they do for Samantha Bee.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
udanja99 2/10/2020 8:41:57 AM (No. 313706)
The Oscars were on last night?
Like many other posters here, I haven’t watched them in decades and the last American made film I saw in a theater was American Sniper. It was an amazing film but it lost it’s luster for me later when Bradley Cooper held a fund raiser for Illary. Actors never seem to learn a thing from the roles they play.
And, #5, I had no idea that Hollywood was making another Ghostbusters sequel. You would think they would have given up after the last one, the all female one, tanked so badly. But leftists never do learn from their failures - they just double down on them.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
JackBurton 2/10/2020 8:46:51 AM (No. 313712)
Looks like a mobster remake of R.E.D.
Speaking from the trailer and not from seeing The Irishman OR the Oscards.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 2/10/2020 8:52:12 AM (No. 313719)
The last movie wife and I saw was, "13 Hours - The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi" and before that, we went to see "2016 - Obama's America". The next one we will see hasn't been made yet, but, one could easily guess that it will portray the failed coup and impeachment circus against the President of the United States.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Old Army Vet 2/10/2020 8:59:44 AM (No. 313731)
I don't watch the oscars, I never will. I just read here that Hanoi Jane won an oscar. I don't want to go to movies anymore because of that. She should be in jail, not on a screen. Words fail me as to the outrage I feel. Hollywood does not express nor has the values of real America. I'm done.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
3XALADY 2/10/2020 9:03:22 AM (No. 313735)
My movie list: Fried Green Tomatoes and Throw Mama From The Train. What's that been? 40 years? Thankfully they don't depend on my dollars.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
felixcat 2/10/2020 9:15:20 AM (No. 313754)
I would like to see The Last Full Measure but I cannot stand Samuel L. Jackson - even if she plays a Vietnam veteran working with his fellow veterans to recognize the man who saved their lives.
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cor-vet 2/10/2020 9:24:52 AM (No. 313765)
Haven't spent a dime on anything Hollyweird in more years than I can remember. I'm actually leaning toward 'Midway', because of the snippets I'v seen on TV as I fast forward through the commercials. It will depend on who is in it, as I have a list of 'actors' I won't watch, no matter what the movie is.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
davew 2/10/2020 9:30:39 AM (No. 313777)
Many more people will watch and enjoy "The Irishman" than will ever see "Parasite" which is an ironic Korean metaphor for Bernie Sander's career in politics. I've seen all the nominated movies this year and I could not believe that "1917" lost best picture to anything. It too will remembered long after "Parasite" has been forgotten. My wife loved "Jo Jo Rabbit" more than I did because I don't think it's cartoon version of Hitler and Nazi Germany is instructive or entertaining. Renee Zellweger was amazing in "Judy" but beyond that the movie was dark. "Marriage Story" (also Netflix) was a stage play pretending to be a movie with too much dialogue and narcissistic monologues at every turn. "Once Upon A Time in Hollywood" was a nice twist on the Manson murders but if you've seen "Inglorious Bastards" you can skip this remake including the heroic Brad Pitt.
There were two reasons why the Hollywood elite snubbed "The Irishman" IMHO. First, they resent Netflix attempting to break up the theater owner's monopoly on what a "real" movie is and threatening their economic model. Second, the technology to modify the actor's ages took work away from other actors and, carried to an extreme, could lead to completely synthetic movies that recycle the faces and bodies of human actors. The ability to make photorealistic movies with famous actor lookalikes is a chilling prospect for this economically challenged industry and they want no part of it.
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planetgeo 2/10/2020 9:46:02 AM (No. 313794)
The problem I have with any DeNiro/Pacino/Pesci film is that you've seen any of them, you've seen them all. They always play the same type of character and pretty much the same way. It's repetitive and boring.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Catfur27 2/10/2020 9:54:47 AM (No. 313808)
..the article uses the term "living legends"...??...I object...WHY does so much of the public worship these modern day court jesters ?? ( same with pro athletes) ...it's not like they actually do something productive like doctors, scientists, builders, etc......they are rich and famous because they play-pretend to be someone they are not...??...and people pay $$$ because it's "entertainment"...??...these clowns make no money off me.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
bigfatslob 2/10/2020 10:12:27 AM (No. 313835)
I don't go to movies but did take advantage last year with my senior discount for the matinee feature of Churchill it was great but others like my wife would think the history was boring. I sneak in my own snacks and tiny airplane liquor bottles.
Since we enjoy our Sunday afternoons free from NFL football (we stopped three years ago) and just cook and visit but yesterday was exceptional. Oscar movies were featured on a channel commercial free and I watch Lawrence of Arabia and Ghandi back to back that's some real acting and Oscar winners if you ask me.
Hollywood is what the President referred to as a real s---hole and he's right so I don't waste my time or money on it.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Luckyx3 2/10/2020 10:26:05 AM (No. 313856)
how is it that Hollywood bashes conservatives but they expect us to spend money on their stupid movies - no thanks
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Kate318 2/10/2020 10:27:27 AM (No. 313861)
This article gave every reason In the book for why The Irishman didn’t win any Oscars, except the main one. It wasn’t a good movie, and the CGI effects for de-aging Robert DeNiro were embarrassing. The back stories I have read about this movie say that this was DeNiro’s baby from the start, and he had to convince everybody else to get on board. I actually like Martin Scorsese movies, but this one was a snooze fest.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Donna M 2/10/2020 10:40:07 AM (No. 313882)
Do see Ford v Ferrari, Judy for Zellwegher's performance, Midway, and 1917. It's important to support films made for adults that don't slam a left wing view down your throat.
Jojo Rabbit was an entertaining fable and a small, quirky picture. Not a best picture.
Parasite? Maybe the South Koreans know something we don't.
If you want to see a movie about courage, find Melville's 'Army of Shadows'. Not your usual film about the French resistance. And made by a resistant who survived.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
little guy 2/10/2020 10:44:08 AM (No. 313887)
Dad's parents are from Foggia, Italy and mom's parents were born and raised in Waterford, Ireland. The title of the movie as well as the whole concept insults me twice! I tell ya I'm triggered!
BTW --- Am I the only American of Irish/Italian descent who is not only insulted by Hollywood's constant reference to Italians as all barely capable of speaking and prone to violence but, on top of that, the Irish are just drunks who also love to hurt people or even kill them while speaking a phony Celtic accent?
Glad DeNiro lost --- big time.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
marbles 2/10/2020 10:53:56 AM (No. 313903)
Did you know that people that are nominated campaign in the trade papers for them , that they have private screenings and gifts for voting members of the academy and that the presenters all get gift bags worth over $200,000, and that many of them pay to have their spontaneous " thank you" speeches written for them.Fake all the way , and ingrates to boot. Without the America they love to denigrate they would be nowhere.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
fairplay 2/10/2020 11:02:56 AM (No. 313916)
#33 I'm of Irish/Italian decent also and I resent all these gangster movies myself!
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Pinkpanther 2/10/2020 11:32:21 AM (No. 313959)
We’ve long abandoned Hollywood in my house though my daughter is in several shows and movies. She doesn’t see this as a career, it’s a means to an end. She’s a traditional Catholic and a Trump supporter so she hates what’s going on in the industry. We much prefer Korean and Chinese dramas, it’s good acting, amazing stories and character development, traditional gender roles and free from PC nonsense and political agendas.
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Venturer 2/10/2020 11:33:52 AM (No. 313961)
I never watch the Oscars and finding out tthat Hanoi Jane gave out an award makes me feel my not watching is the best move.
I didn't have to puke watching her.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Trapper 2/10/2020 11:38:45 AM (No. 313968)
The movie had a fatal flaw that the article doesn't even mention. You cannot computer generate 75 year old De Niro into a 35 year old character. You may be able to make the lines disappear, but the computer can't make him move like a man 40 years his junior. It was most evident in the scene where his character is supposed to be stomping on a guy. He was stiff, like an old guy, and looked like he could barely keep his balance and was about to fall over. Not his fault, we all age. But Scorcese casting all these guys as characters 40 years younger than they are was a mistake. I like all these guys, and I wish they hadn't made this. Oh, and by the way, the Godfather was not about the Mafia. That was just a vehicle. The Bible, Shakespeare, and The Godfather. All you need.
Hmmmm. Time to rent "Heat" again.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 2/10/2020 11:49:35 AM (No. 313983)
I made a point of not going to see it. Roberto DeNasty is the biggest jerk on the planet and there is no way one red cent of my money will hit his bank account.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
farmwife 2/10/2020 11:53:36 AM (No. 313987)
The movie was a poor imitation of 'The Godfather'.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
cube 2/10/2020 12:37:40 PM (No. 314030)
The last movie I attended was the midnight showing of the last Harry Potter film with my daughters and only because someone couldn't attend and the ticket would've been wasted otherwise. I prefer horror movies and I like to watch them at home on DVDs. I haven't watched an Oscar winning movie since "The Silence Of The Lambs," and that's only because I loved the book.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
udanja99 2/10/2020 12:43:10 PM (No. 314036)
Hey, Bobby, to paraphrase Sally Field,
They don’t like you. They really don’t like you.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 2/10/2020 1:29:48 PM (No. 314093)
Ha ha, ho ho, hee hee. Good enough for you thinking a big star in retrograde would bring a lousy story into the winner's circle.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
rusino 2/10/2020 2:28:49 PM (No. 314160)
I watched from beginning to end. I no longer can stomach Brad Pitt. I’m sure I’m not alone. Jane Fonda for obvious reason I find revolting..looked oddly like Carol Burnett to me. I am a women...there was so much dialogue about women it was annoying. Actors...People should be seen as individuals. Their sex/race is inconsequential. If you do your job well and lead a Moral/Lawful Life you will reap the rewards of a Good Life!
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
leonardo 2/10/2020 3:57:04 PM (No. 314233)
DeNiro and Pitt get no viewing time from us, nor do many others. Hollywood, the Democrat-Entertainment-Propaganda cadre, with it's dubious morals, simply knows how WE must think and act. Who needs perpetual moral lessons from THESE LOSERS? NO THANKS.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
watashiyo 2/10/2020 4:12:31 PM (No. 314259)
Good or bad movie, not watching if DeNiro is in it.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
vwlarry 2/10/2020 4:53:40 PM (No. 314306)
I also detest today's Hollywood, but even so, sometimes a real jewel emerges from the muck. Two movies everyone should see, and truly ENJOY, are "Ford vs Ferrari", and especially "1917". Both are moving and magnificent in their own unique ways. Try them and see for yourself!
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
thewarden 2/10/2020 5:48:34 PM (No. 314342)
I tried watching it on Netflix (I get it free thru T-Mobile, ha ha) and couldn’t get 1/2 through it. Awful. Really bad. Glad it was shunned.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
NYbob 2/10/2020 6:40:33 PM (No. 314391)
I like cars and admire Shelby and Miles, but Matt Damon. 1917 was masterful movie making and a good lesson on history and the cost of war. As far as the Irishman, I was interested in the de-aging tech and the time period. The de-aging didn't work any better than the usual makeup. As another poster said, you can imitate an old guy moving, but if you are an old guy, you c an't imitate a young guy, unless you are some kind of amazing physical specimen, and DeNiro is far from that. The long shots show a puny, short guy with an oversized head on his shoulders. He commits a lot of murders and mob violence, so who do you cheer for in that mess? Hoffa? Pacino is a good actor, but I never felt like I was not looking at Pacino struggling to imitate someone that looked and talked completely different that whatever that accent was. Miscast.
Everyone likes to applaud Scorsese, but his Italian gangster movies elevate horrible, amoral people. No real hero or even heroic principles at stake. Just slobs blowing up things or murdering people. They don't get punished much. They just kill each other or get old. It is a good thing he didn't win.
Fonda is at the same level as the cat woman and Mickey Roark for plastic surgery weirdness. Bizarre body in spite of all the workout tapes and her ears. huge. I know that's normal for a really old person with the cartilage growing, but she didn't bother to hide them with her hair. Are the hairstylists of hollywood avoiding her like the rest of us?
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
XCenturion 2/10/2020 6:47:14 PM (No. 314398)
I wouldn't urinate on DeNiro if he was on fire!
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
doctorfixit 2/11/2020 4:58:46 AM (No. 314622)
DeNiro. I wont watch anything with that lunatic in it. Scorcese has beaten the gangster thing to death. . 3 1/2 hours?
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