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Trump Calls On Major League Baseball
To Put Pete Rose In The Hall Of Fame

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Posted By: Imright, 2/9/2020 7:48:34 PM

Pete Rose posted monster numbers in his Major League Baseball career. Rose, who played from 1963 to 1986, holds major league records for games played (3,562), at bats (14,053), hits (4,256), and singles (3,215). He had a lifetime batting average of .303. Those are Hall of Fame numbers. But the player known as “Mr. Hustle” has never been inducted into Cooperstown because of a scandal that marred his post-player career. In 1989, three years after his retirement, Rose was kicked out of baseball amid accusations that he bet on baseball games while playing for and managing the Cincinnati Reds.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: 49 Ford 2/9/2020 7:54:36 PM (No. 313364)
Can't agree with the president on this one.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: droopydog 2/9/2020 7:55:45 PM (No. 313366)
Go back ten years...somebody tells you that PRESIDENT Donald Trump would be recommending that Pete Rose be admitted into the baseball hall of fame. I really don't have an opinion about Pete Rose, but I'm kind of giddy that we have a President Trump and he's giving us his opinion, flat out.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: bamapreacher 2/9/2020 7:56:21 PM (No. 313367)
Considering what a lot of pro athletes have done since Pete's day, especially NFLers, what he did is pretty mild, and if he didn't bet against his team he harmed no one. Considering his expertise he may have had an edge up on some other baseball bettors but that's their problem.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 2/9/2020 8:02:23 PM (No. 313373)
FTA - "No hard evidence ever emerged that he bet against his own team...". Induct Pete Rose into the Hall of Fame.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: 49 Ford 2/9/2020 8:18:53 PM (No. 313383)
OK #'s 3 & 4, let's make a deal we have no authority to make:-) : admit Pete Rose to the HOF, and vote Joe Jackson in along with him. Sounds good?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: samoasam 2/9/2020 8:22:29 PM (No. 313386)
Pete has thirty years of punishment. Trump is absolutely right. His Career and his numbers are, by far, the best in the majors. His actions Never affected the outcome of any game. Put Him in. Stop playing politics with this guy.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: JL80863 2/9/2020 8:34:10 PM (No. 313390)
Joe Jackson should be admitted on his own merits.and accomplishments.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: doublesharp 2/9/2020 8:39:13 PM (No. 313393)
Hit King belongs in the Hall of Fame.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Grounded 2/9/2020 8:47:48 PM (No. 313398)
Commissioner Landis banned Shoeless Joe Jackson on his own say-so after a jury failed to convict the Black Sox conspirators. During the 1919 World Series Jackson, a career 0.356 lifetime hitter, had 12 hits, a world series record that stood for 45 years, while hitting 0.375 and committing zero errors. Not the numbers one would put up to throw the series to the Cincinnati Reds. Put Joe and Pete in the Hall.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: varkdriver 2/9/2020 8:57:12 PM (No. 313402)
I'm with #1 on this. Can't agree to Rose in the Hall. There is a sign in every clubhouse at every level of professional baseball explaining that if you gamble, you are banned for life, ineligible. Rose knew it and did it anyway. Period, dot, end of sentence. And some apologists are trying to say that is was okay since he ALWAYS bet on his team to win every single game. That is a giant load of dung. Do it once, do it 1000 times, for your team, against your team, you are WRONG. I'd be willing to bet (Ha!) that he did not bet his team to win on many occasions, having plenty of inside info on injuries plus the ability to manipulate the roster. The minute he didn't bet to win, the bookies immediately knew something was up. Granted, anyone who gambles is taking a risk of losing to some rigged game. Caveat bettor!!
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Amanoftwistsandturns 2/9/2020 9:20:09 PM (No. 313409)
Ohio voters love Johnny Hustle almost as much as they love Woody Hayes . Smart move on Trump’s part.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: spacer 2/9/2020 9:32:59 PM (No. 313415)
Giamatti swore Rose would never get there. His hatred for Charlie Hustle has gone on for too long. Put Rose where he belongs.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 2/9/2020 9:33:13 PM (No. 313416)
Sounds good to me.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: msjena 2/9/2020 9:38:41 PM (No. 313419)
I agree with Trump on this. Banned from baseball shouldn’t mean banned from the HOF. Rose has HOF numbers. He should be admitted.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Yepper 2/9/2020 9:41:09 PM (No. 313421)
Rose needs to be admitted into the HOF based on his career accomplishments. If gambling affects the integrity of the game, well I got news for you - so do performance enhancing drugs, which we all know that they do. Banning gambling players from the HOF and not also banning those who use drugs renders the rule downright arbitrary and unethical. And those who support keeping Rose out of the HOF should take a long hard look at their faulty reasoning processes.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: worried 2/9/2020 10:07:08 PM (No. 313433)
I'm for letting both Pete and Joe in. Their numbers rate it. And if not, then ban the whole Astros team from any chance in the HOF. Also those steroid users like Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa, he with the corked bat. There is a host of others that should be banned along with Rose for various reasons.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: rtwngprof 2/9/2020 10:24:52 PM (No. 313439)
Rose lied and lied and lied; never admitted to anything until they cold prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt. I still don't believed he's been completely honest. As far as not affecting the outcome of any games, BS. If he had a big bet on tomorrow's game, you don't think he might decide not to use his closer today so he'll have him for tomorrow? Or other lineup decisions? He knew what the penalty was. It's posted in every clubhouse, and they go over it every spring training. He knew, and he did it anyway. Let him in and you're telling every young player "we don't really mean all that stuff, if you're a big enough star."
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Reply 18 - Posted by: ginadee 2/9/2020 10:29:23 PM (No. 313448)
I agree with you 100% #14.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: sydney727 2/9/2020 10:59:26 PM (No. 313462)
I think Rose should be admitted and I've thought this for a long time. I know there are a lot of issues, but when all is said and done, I'd vote to admit him now.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: MDConservative 2/9/2020 11:03:00 PM (No. 313464)
First off, Pete's "banishment" is a settlement agreement he entered into with MLB. He agreed to the punishment without there ever being a hearing, apparently preferring things that way. He can always back out of the agreement and MLB can air all that evidence #4 refers to. So, Pete, your move... As far as Shoeless Joe, his '19 World Series performance is an interesting thing to dissect. Go check out his hitting prowess when the Black Sox were known to be dumping games...a few 0 - fers, and very few RBIs. Make of it what you will. Pete got what he bargained for; Shoeless Joe got what he deserved. Pete can back out of his bargain any time...why doesn't he?
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Safari Man 2/9/2020 11:07:25 PM (No. 313466)
Well, now that Trump has endorsed, Rose is as good as gone.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: buckeye1 2/9/2020 11:08:04 PM (No. 313467)
Its past time for Mr. Baseball Pete Rose to be inducted in the Baseball Hall of Fame
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Reply 23 - Posted by: fayebeck 2/9/2020 11:14:27 PM (No. 313471)
I remember that Johnny Bench warned Rose to "keep your cronies out of the clubhouse". And I remember hearing Bench quit his announcing gig with the Reds when Marty Bennaman opined that Rose should be in the Hall. I will stick with Johnny Bench. No Rose for the Hall. As a matter of fact many who are there should not be. Mike Mussina? Trump should pardon Flynn, Manafort and Stone first.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Venturer 2/9/2020 11:34:49 PM (No. 313480)
Pete Rose deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. His record proves it. Gambling is a disease, Should he be punished for a disease. They have let alcoholics in .
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Reply 25 - Posted by: rockeysroomie 2/10/2020 2:28:06 AM (No. 313524)
So it's okay for Major League Baseball to take money from the Indian Casinos. I thought Major League baseball was against gambling. Sounds hypocritical to me.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: StormCnter 2/10/2020 5:46:07 AM (No. 313578)
Never!!!
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Reply 27 - Posted by: msjena 2/10/2020 7:50:26 AM (No. 313664)
So no member of the HOF has ever lied, hung out with questionable people, had a gambling or drinking problem, or cheated on his wife—right? Is there a morality test for HOF? The voters of course can take these things into account so why not let them in Rose’s case?
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Rumblehog 2/10/2020 9:25:43 AM (No. 313767)
Let's be fair and split the Baseball HOF into "Players" and 'Coaches" then induct Pete into the Players', but not the Coaches'.
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