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Iran finally Admits shooting down Ukrainian
jetliner: Tehran says military 'unintentionally'
fired missiles at Boeing 737 and killed
176 on board because they thought the
plane was an 'enemy target'

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Posted By: Imright, 1/11/2020 1:20:43 AM

Iranian state TV, citing a military statement, says the country 'unintentionally' shot down a Ukrainian jetliner, killing all 176 aboard, after mistaking the aircraft for a hostile, enemy target. The statement came Saturday morning, local time, and blamed 'human error' for shooting down the plane on Tuesday. Specifically, Iranian officials says the aircraft 'took the flying posture and altitude of an enemy target' as it neared the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps base and attending personal didn't recognize it as a passenger plane. 'Under these circumstances, because of human error, [the plane] came under fire,' the statement read, according to the New York Times. Following the grave mistake, Iran's government

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Reply 1 - Posted by: KTWO 1/11/2020 1:43:35 AM (No. 285022)
We learn more and more. They say the plane first turned because of a fire and was therefore off path. I wonder what the evidence is for a turn and a fire. It may exist and come from some radar or another. Or it may just be an attempt to assuage blame for firing missiles.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: JediJerry 1/11/2020 1:47:20 AM (No. 285024)
Yeah sure right accidentally on purpose. AOC and Pelosi will by that all day.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Omen55 1/11/2020 1:56:21 AM (No. 285032)
But it was Trump who pulled the trigger! Pelosi
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Reply 4 - Posted by: DVC 1/11/2020 2:23:47 AM (No. 285042)
I said it was the case when I first heard that the airliner had "crashed". This now makes Iran more up front and honest than BillyJeff Clinton and his evil minions.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 1/11/2020 2:35:52 AM (No. 285052)
They are still dead. Who takes off with all of the chaos going on anyway ?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Rinktum 1/11/2020 3:59:55 AM (No. 285085)
If and when this President decides to send in what the Iranians so richly deserve, they will never see it coming. If this is any indication of the expertise of the Iranians it is a prime example of why they should never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. Oops, is just not going to cut it when they make another “mistake.” The regime is unstable and cannot be trusted with weapons of that magnitude or frankly anything more powerful than a Red Ryder BB gun.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: MainelySane 1/11/2020 4:49:00 AM (No. 285099)
IRG could have been using flightradar24.com to see where the plane came from..... for free!
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Strike3 1/11/2020 7:09:03 AM (No. 285154)
AHA! We knew it from day one. The timing and the refusal to turn over the Black Box gave them away. #6 gets it right, when we hit them for real, the stealth planes will not provide one hint that they are over Iran until the ground starts shaking. Bunch of Islamic fools just like the rest of the camel herders. A lone passenger plane lumbering along by itself at 8,000 feet looked like a military plane? Your "elite forces" need some training in common sense, like three centuries worth.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Safari Man 1/11/2020 7:13:28 AM (No. 285158)
Well of course, a 737 from the east looks exactly like an F15 from the west. The trigger happy camel jockeys just wanted to play with their toys (that Obama/Kerry funded). No Americans to shoot at? Darn! Well here comes something... what the heck, this one’s for Allah.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: edgar 1/11/2020 7:25:10 AM (No. 285174)
Wow. I am surprised Iran let this Genie out of the bottle.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Safari Man 1/11/2020 7:25:29 AM (No. 285175)
About those black boxes...nevermind.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Califedup 1/11/2020 7:47:10 AM (No. 285193)
If one listened only to the communist democrats and their propaganda media, Trump stood at one end of the runway with a shoulder fired surface to air missile and shot down the plane personally. When do we cleanse our Republic of these traitors?
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Reply 13 - Posted by: F15 Gork 1/11/2020 7:54:48 AM (No. 285206)
Camel Jockeys playing around with 1’s and 0’s is a bad combination....
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Mekkkk 1/11/2020 7:57:09 AM (No. 285208)
Ok I must say I was not expecting this admission...
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Reply 15 - Posted by: pinger 1/11/2020 8:07:48 AM (No. 285218)
This shoot-down simply proves that the Iranian military doesn't know their "enemy" very well. To think that suddenly an enemy aircraft blip would appear over Tehran at 8000 feet, supposedly having traveled unnoticed through hundreds of miles of Iranian air space....is really dumb. If American warplanes ever to have to mission over Iran, by the time the Ayatollahs know it they'll be burning in hell.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Lawsy0 1/11/2020 8:12:07 AM (No. 285221)
As long as Associated Press & Daily Mail believe their full-of-Schiff excuses, nothing else matters. There! It is printed in black and white and I saw it on a news site.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Mushroom 1/11/2020 8:13:10 AM (No. 285224)
I am impressed they told the truth. It wasn't the leadership that made this error, it was someone way down on the food chain. Owning up to this is one more item removed from the tensions. I wish our State Department and FBI could be as honest.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: mobyclik 1/11/2020 8:28:05 AM (No. 285242)
How would you like to be the guy that pushed the 'Fire' button? Or any member of his family? ''Hey Achmed, they want to see you in Tehran about something.''
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Reply 19 - Posted by: bigfatslob 1/11/2020 9:05:09 AM (No. 285275)
The job opening that Trump created after killing Salami his replacement must be some doozy of a military person. That's like going duck hunting and shooting the first thing you see flying in the air. If it wasn't so sad it would be funny and laughable 'death the America' you say. Stick to something safe like goat herding and leave military gear alone Ahmadi Rashid Pimple Head.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 1/11/2020 9:06:58 AM (No. 285278)
Blaming America and Trump is like an abusive husband blaming his wife for making him mad and causing him to hit her.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: bighambone 1/11/2020 9:14:46 AM (No. 285287)
Those Iranians operating the antiaircraft missiles at Tehran have to be totally incompetent to have fired on a commercial aircraft that just took off from the Tehran International Airport. That should give the Russians pause in selling the Iranians any modern antiaircraft missiles systems in the future, as who knows, being that incompetent, the Iranians could just as well shoot down a Russian commercial aircraft on a whim.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 1/11/2020 9:17:57 AM (No. 285289)
And with trigger-happy Iranians missile batteries waiting for something to shoot at near the Tehran Airport, why oh why was the airport even open just one hour after these same missile batteries lobbed their missiles over to the US military locations in Iraq? Yes, another reason why Iran should never have nuclear weapons, or weapons of any kind for that matter.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: deauxrite 1/11/2020 9:21:21 AM (No. 285295)
Who was on the airplane? All airliners use transponders..and all air defense systems can read transponders..this was no accident.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Doconc 1/11/2020 9:33:33 AM (No. 285309)
Rumor is that there were 5 Iranian nuclear scientists onboard escaping Iran They were shot down intentionally to avoid defecting
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Reply 25 - Posted by: MDConservative 1/11/2020 9:34:11 AM (No. 285311)
Could've blamed some agents of the Great Satan with a Stinger...
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Historybuff 1/11/2020 9:42:09 AM (No. 285321)
OK Justin, time to make a little noise - how many Canadians died?
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Reply 27 - Posted by: little guy 1/11/2020 10:09:26 AM (No. 285377)
Obviously, if it was intentional, they would have waited just a bit so that the debris fell down in the dessert and not so close to the airport. This just proves that their vaunted "military" is actually pretty lame. Including the four ballistic missiles out of 18 that didn't exploded on contact. Those were sold to them by the Russians who conned them into paying for shoddy goods with some of the $1.8 billion in cash (delivered in Euros, btw --- not dollars) that Obummer gave them. That's the problem with a missile that costs $100 million. You can't tell if it works until you fire it but you get to do that just once! Also, by admitting they did it, the Iranians are trying to show they're "normal" and the sanctions should be lifted so they can pay off the relatives of everyone they "accidentally" killed.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Salt5792 1/11/2020 10:23:23 AM (No. 285396)
We knew this all along.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Chuzzles 1/11/2020 10:31:04 AM (No. 285405)
When the paranoia is running as deep as it is in Iran leadership, everything is an enemy target, even their own people. It is not beyond Islamic thinking to sacrifice their own to score political points. No wonder our own commie Left admires them so much. Iran gets away with what the Left can only dream of pulling off in this country. Their big excuse is always going to be that those people went to paradise a little earlier than they normally would have. Until they turn the black boxes over to Boeing, we are never going to get the whole truth, or even a part of it.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: John Gee 1/11/2020 10:47:52 AM (No. 285432)
On the night of the shootdown I was reading this very site, and some new account posted an article claimed to be from Fox, and the headline was something like "US Airforce downs passenger airliner over Tehran". There was no excerpt, and the link was no good. This post happened even BEFORE any actual posts about the event, which came around 30 minutes later. Yes it was a troll, but how did a troll get onto that breaking story before anyone else at Lucianne? It seems unlikely, unless it was coming direct from Tehran.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: starboard 1/11/2020 10:50:07 AM (No. 285438)
I guess there were no air traffic controllers in Tehran that night.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Catfur27 1/11/2020 10:56:53 AM (No. 285448)
...isn't this the second Ukrainian plane shot down in the past 4 years ?? ....Note To Self : Do Not Take Uki-Air
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Reply 33 - Posted by: darnright 1/11/2020 11:12:07 AM (No. 285470)
Just gotta wonder why all those Canadians were in Iran anyway. There are a few countries in the world I would never travel to. Iran and North Korea top the list with Venezuela and some others not far behind. Just seems silly to me...
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Reply 34 - Posted by: msjena 1/11/2020 11:24:55 AM (No. 285493)
It was unintentional only in that they thought they were shooting at an American plane.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: jacksin5 1/11/2020 11:29:32 AM (No. 285496)
So, how are the Canadians and Ukranians going to respond?
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Reply 36 - Posted by: judy 1/11/2020 12:02:08 PM (No. 285524)
I'm waiting for an apology from the media, the dems & senator Warner.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: unionriverman2316 1/11/2020 12:17:52 PM (No. 285540)
Suspect that the guy who pushed the FIRE button.....was KIA.......or will be shortly! Air defense systems at civilian airfields are common in that part of the world. The aircraft "transponder" would have ID'ed it as a civil airliner.....if anyone had bothered to look for it.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: bighambone 1/11/2020 1:31:24 PM (No. 285596)
How could Barack Obama trust the fanatical and incompetent Iranian Government not to covertly keep developing nuclear weapons when he entered into an agreement with them without having an ironclad verification procedure in place? That was just stupid. Since the Iranians lied about shooting down a commercial airliner that for all intents and purposes was loaded with people of Iranian origin, some of who it appears were duel nationals in another country like Canada, in that respect, common sense will tell you that the Iranian Government would certainly be less than candid to the world about the existence of any covert nuclear weapons development program.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: greggojo 1/11/2020 1:42:28 PM (No. 285599)
Iran knew they were going to launch a massive missile attack towards Iraq, and should have closed their airspace to commercial air traffic. Iran should have been able to recognize the plane as a non-military plane. Iran is dangerously incompetent and the downing of this plane is a primary and tragic example of why the Iranians should never, ever, be permitted to develop nuclear weapons.
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Reply 40 - Posted by: fca 1/11/2020 1:52:57 PM (No. 285603)
Who was on the plane that the Mullahs did not like? Why was the air space open when the Mullahs were launching missiles?
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Reply 41 - Posted by: JHHolliday 1/11/2020 2:01:52 PM (No. 285607)
#8 is correct. A monstrous eff-up. The Iranians had no choice but come clean. They would have looked even more stupid had they tried to continue the cover-up. I would hate to be the poor schmuck who gave the order to launch.
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Reply 42 - Posted by: SavageRider 1/11/2020 3:06:57 PM (No. 285664)
The Iranian person "intentionally" fired at the airplane and "intentionally" blew it out of the sky. That he may have been wrong about the identity of the airplane does not making this an unintentional shoot down. Unintentional would be if an American jet was leading an airliner through the sky, with just one radar signal showing, and the jet ducked out of the way just before the missile hit the airliner.
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Reply 43 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 1/11/2020 3:45:19 PM (No. 285693)
You cannot attribute the professionalism of American soldiers to these revolutionary guards. There is heavy drug use involved. Notice the size of the pupils on Soleimani.
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Reply 44 - Posted by: Safari Man 1/11/2020 4:26:44 PM (No. 285717)
#30 i saw that too. News2020 was the moniker, iirc. Nothing on Fox at that time.I googled and saw nothing. Not until the next morning was there any coverage (that I am aware of). Did Hannity post that?? Very curious. (Was it Trump? Even more curious!)
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A lie told often enough becomes the truth. I keep thinking about the above quote whenever anyone claims that the Obama administration was scandal-free. How many more times are we going to hear people make this claim and see it go unchallenged? During an interview on CNN on Friday, former Secretary of State John Kerry, who's in Iowa campaigning with Joe Biden, echoed the oft-repeated claim that the Obama-Biden administration lacked scandals. "I believe Joe Biden is the only person who has the set of relationships around the world, who has had this unbelievable breadth of experience as chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee and then as vice president for eight years —
I'm worried about Prince Harry... I fear
something is seriously amiss and he's on
a trajectory of self-destruction,
writes his biographer
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Posted by zephyrgirl 1/11/2020 11:40:13 AM Post Reply

What an explosive week this has been in the aftermath of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s bombshell announcement that they wish to ‘step back’ as senior royals. I share much of the anger, frustration and sorrow of the British public at their decision, which has been much-discussed over the past few days.  But there is one aspect of this drama that concerns and saddens me: the behaviour of Prince Harry, and what appears to be him turning his back on the Royal Family.  This is so out of character, and — as his biographer who knows him better than many — I fear something is seriously amiss. 

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