NY Times Exec: We Need to Figure
Out Religious People, Trump Voters
Washington Free Beacon,
by
Staff
Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly,
12/30/2019 4:59:19 AM
This week on the Sunday news shows: The New York Times executive editor said journalists need to do a better job of understanding religious people, presidential candidate Andrew Yang said he is open to the possibility of prosecuting President Donald Trump once he's out of office, and Washington Free Beacon founding editor Matthew Continetti discussed the growing distrust between voters and the media. New York Times executive editor Dean Baquet said it's "odd" to be called a member of the elite, but he acknowledged journalists must do more to understand religion.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Petronius 12/30/2019 5:09:48 AM (No. 274166)
If the "Elite" want to understand their relationship to the common people, they need only to view the execution video of Nicolae and Elena Ceaușescu.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Strike3 12/30/2019 5:18:28 AM (No. 274170)
This is progress of a sort, one step above calling us names like sun-worshiping peasants. It still won't stop the construction of guillotines for the royalty.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
chance_232 12/30/2019 5:58:10 AM (No. 274185)
They are never going to figure us out. They arent interested in our points of view, beliefs or philosophy. They arent interested in facts that dont support or advance their own agenda.
What they are interested is getting us to change pur minds with bumper sticker slogans. Failing that, the beatings will continue.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
WhamDBambam 12/30/2019 6:29:34 AM (No. 274194)
NY Times Exec: We Need to Figure Out How to Fool Religious People, Trump Voters
There, fixed the headline.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Pucky1 12/30/2019 6:35:25 AM (No. 274196)
Dear Dean, the reason you will NEVER understand why people support Donald Trump is that you and your reporters will have to give up your preconceived, biased view of the world.
You and your kind take comfort in NOT KNOWING what animates people of faith, of patriotic pride, of individual generosity. To you the government is all powerful and the people are merely tools to be used.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
mean Gene 12/30/2019 6:43:46 AM (No. 274201)
They are perishing so they can't understand and never will:
[ Christ Crucified Is God’s Power and Wisdom ] For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 1 Corinthians 1:18
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Rather Read 12/30/2019 6:45:40 AM (No. 274204)
Maybe if the elites would go to church or get out and actually meet people they'd get a clue. Saleno Zito does. She's about the only reporter who bothers to get out of the bubble and her columns are full of insight.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Bazi 12/30/2019 6:52:58 AM (No. 274212)
Communists worship their political leaders and want to control every aspect of human life. They will never understand those of us who are FTA:"gullible".
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
ARKfamily 12/30/2019 7:08:49 AM (No. 274216)
"NY Times Exec: We Need to Figure Out Religious People, Trump Voters"
They don't even understand they are the problem. They think they need to figure out religious people is the key phrase I am making reference. Problems always occur when a person leans on their own understanding. Wisdom comes from God only so it is a problem when they want to figure out faithful people. They don't have the correct Resource. . .
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
gone2pot 12/30/2019 7:12:31 AM (No. 274219)
They can't even identify specifically who they're trying to figure out but they certainly do know who it is; white male Christians. We're the only religious people to whom they're referring. They know it and we know it. Just say it. It's us. And, according to years and years of false premise based stories from Punch's news surgeons, they've already figured us out. We're all racists, bigots, homophobes and haters of all things having to do with everything the NYT believes in. In other words, we're NOTHING like what they think we are but it won't let that stop them from being wrong and making up yet more ridiculous assumptions, lumping us all into their Jimmy Swaggart and David Duke boxes because that is the ONLY thing they're going to do. Good grief, according to those fact monsters, every one of us attacked Jussie Smollett and put a noose around his neck and we'd all go to ultra liberal Chicago (you know, "MAGA country"), don our red MAGA hats at three in the morning when it's twenty below zero, and do it again just because we're all haters because we're white Christians. Those guys (SEE? There I go. "Guys" is a racist trigger word!!! HHEEELLLPPPP!") simply CANNOT figure us out because truth, which exists just outside of their echo chamber, is nowhere to be found at the gray lady or any other major city's publication, period, end of conversation. "Journalists must do more to understand religion"? Please.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
jeffkinnh 12/30/2019 7:18:38 AM (No. 274220)
The Left wants to understand the Right like a general wants to understand his enemy before he launches the assault to destroy them.
This is NOT a sympathetic or appreciative understanding. It's the type of understanding that a pest control company wants to have of insects so that it can better eradicate them.
Be VERY sure that the Left has no interest in treating their opposition well. The past few years have been a striking example. They will DO and SAY anything to win. They will escalate and discard legal, moral, and ethical safeguards to eliminate their enemies. They hate us because we are successfully opposing them and will not allow them to have what they want. We enabled them for decades by acting "reasonably" and tolerating their incursions, not recognizing the broader threat. Their response has been to demand more and deliver far less respect of us. They never had respect but pretended as to worm their way into the apple. Now, their part of the apple has gone to rot.
They want to "understand" so to get even more of it.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
janjan 12/30/2019 7:35:59 AM (No. 274227)
The Democrats want power and to get it they need to win elections. We have had 3 years to observe what happens when they don’t. People like Ocazio-Cortez have forced them out of the closet due to her absurd belief that all Americans want what she wants - socialist government control. The mainstream of America are mad as hell and aren’t willing to take it anymore. It isn’t about religion or even Donald Trump. It’s about THEM.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
F15 Gork 12/30/2019 7:42:47 AM (No. 274233)
Chuck, I predict your interview with St Peter will end badly....
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
bpl40 12/30/2019 7:48:21 AM (No. 274237)
Its really simple. Start loving the country that gave you so much. It will all fall into place.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Chuzzles 12/30/2019 7:53:21 AM (No. 274241)
Come out of the elitist bubble, I promise you will like the clean air and the freedom of thinking for yourselves. I suspect it is more a trying to figure out how to scam and lie to Christians than it is trying to actually figure them out. To figure them out, they would have to acknowledge the existence of GOD, and that they are not willing to do.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Kafka2 12/30/2019 8:03:20 AM (No. 274246)
President Trump is not perfect, but then he never claimed to be. However, when you compare him to all the Democrats running against him, he stands out as the far more desirable choice. He is not advocating taking the earnings of other people to use to buy votes by giving away "free stuff." Instead, he has created an economy that gives people the opportunity to earn it themselves.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Newtsche 12/30/2019 8:21:51 AM (No. 274260)
So, NY Times, you figure them out, then what? You're mocking and hatred is even more self-righteous?
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 12/30/2019 8:25:46 AM (No. 274265)
WFB, does this mean you have broken from the dark side and figured out God?
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
cor-vet 12/30/2019 8:28:50 AM (No. 274269)
Elites will never figure out religious people, Trump voters, gun owners or normals, because it doesn't fit their pre-concieved notions/ideas/beliefs
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
walcb 12/30/2019 8:30:04 AM (No. 274271)
Here is a fairy tale for you--All Americans should get free health care. How many Republicans believe that? Here is anther one--A woman should have the right to kill her unborn baby. How many Republicans believe that?
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
cThree 12/30/2019 8:34:20 AM (No. 274278)
Chuck Todd, who's plain stupid, is the most genuine representation of modern "journalism" in that clip. He digs up a letter he finds "interesting":
anchor Chuck Todd read a letter to the editor from the Lexington Herald Leader in which the writer mocked Trump voters for being gullible.
"Why do good people support Trump? It's because people have been trained from childhood to believe in fairy tales. This set their minds up to accept things that make them feel good. The more fairy tales and lies he tells the better they feel. Show me a person that believes in Noah's ark, I will show you a Trump voter," the letter said.
They really think they need to "understand" such people?
No. They still believe they have a calling, to enlighten those dumb clucks in JesusLand. This is the post-Watergate generation of "journalists," for whom destroying conservative values and representatives is the ultimate validation of their self-worth.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Clinger 12/30/2019 8:34:27 AM (No. 274279)
Oh it’s much much more than that, you need to read the history of human civilization and the way the powerful arm of government has abused the masses since the dawn. From the badass dictators like Genghis Khan to Charlemagne to the Muslim Caliphate to European Monarchies to the modern era’s mass murderers Stalin, Mao, and Hitler.
You need to examine the events that led to the rise of the common people against the rule of those who treated them like human livestock, from the Magna Carta, Reformation, to the age of Enlightenment to the Declaration of Independence to the US Constitution and the reaffirmation embodied in the Gettysburg address.
Only then do you stand a sliver of a chance of understanding us, we the people, the remaining flame of liberty, the irredeemable deplorable bitter clinging American Patriots.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
JackBurton 12/30/2019 8:41:26 AM (No. 274290)
So, all we have to do is get the facts out about Noah's Ark, eh?
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We are a people who love freedom. Through Jesus Christ, we got released from the obligation to follow the law in order to please our Creator. We got a free gift of salvation through grace. So we don't appreciate politicians who would like to make laws to restrict our worship, or our freedom of speech, or our freedom to defend our family. Mr. Baquet, I hope this helps you understand why evangelicals tend to vote against democrats and tend to be against socialism.
Stand fast therefore in the liberty whereby Christ has made us free, and do not wrap yourselves again in a yoke of bondage. ~Galatians 5:1
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Maybe they should figure out exactly what they want. Under a communist form of government, journalists died if they didn't tout exactly what their supreme leaders wanted the masses to read.
It used to be a newspaper or magazine was the only or major form of news. With internet
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With the Internet, TV and other immediate sources, we have figured out that their news isn't really the news.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
LesUNo 12/30/2019 9:23:09 AM (No. 274323)
Perhaps these “sophisticates” don’t comprehend the use of parables in the Bible.
I have served on boards and chaired boards and never have I encountered a liberal who was not self-promoting and controlling. They were rarely generous with their time, their talents or their money but always elbowed their way to the front row for a photo op. A liberal’s sad sense of humor is typically mocking and humiliating.
Never have I had a !liberal express any curiosity about what makes a Conservative “tick”. We are polite and respectful of their cockeyed and destructive views and they, in turn, don their vagina and condom suits and march in the streets and call us crazy.
A quick lesson for the disinterested. A Conservative believes in patriotism, peace, life, prosperity and opportunity. We also believe in ‘community’ and would be able to accomplish so much more if we were not continuously cleaning up the messes Liberals create.
God bless this great country and keep President Trump safe. There is so much work yet to be done.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 12/30/2019 9:29:06 AM (No. 274325)
The blood-drenched commies at The Slimes have been in an endless tizzy - - ever since The Great God Soviet Union - - the deity and depository of all leftist hopes - - was destroyed - - and destroyed no less by an aw-shucks bumpkin named Ronald Reagan.
What to do - - what to do - - when your deeply-held religious beliefs putrefy before your very eyes? You know - - I kind of feel a bit sorry for these god-lost leftists - - - - NOT!
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Mulhaven 12/30/2019 9:34:18 AM (No. 274328)
We are all infected by ignorance. However, those who are adherents to the socialist religion are especially egregious. They only question that which challenges them and surely they view Christianity as their greatest religious opponent. They totally resist self-criticism and have no curiosity outside of self-gratification. In other words, seeking an understanding of human character is outside their purview. They are trapped in an empty space with nothing but sound bites to sustain them. Their religion is empty and valueless. Acquiring and sustaining power has no universal value. Consequently, their overwhelming ignorance turns them into shallow zealots. They are trapped in an ironic situation, professing to seek understanding when they abhor reality. The best they can do is to become smart alecks. Vacuous educations have emptied their humanity. Perhaps they would be better off shoveling real manure.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
ARKfamily 12/30/2019 11:02:27 AM (No. 274404)
#28, thank you for your post especially your last sentence. Powerful statement. . .
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
avital2 12/30/2019 11:04:35 AM (No. 274405)
there none so blind as those who will not see. draw the mirror close, lefties, to see your corruption, your totalitarian, exclusionary tendencies, your turn from classic liberal values, your turn from facts to narrative. that would be a good start.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
msjena 12/30/2019 11:22:17 AM (No. 274418)
Unless the "elites" want to give up their agenda of abortion on demand, full equality/constitutional rights for LBGT, erosion rights for gun owners and Christians, open borders and higher taxes, what good will it do to understand why people support Trump?
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
NotaBene 12/30/2019 12:04:48 PM (No. 274455)
Watched this, it seemed out of a skit of SNL. I guess the WP and NYT think that the Russia collusion, Spygate, FBI corruption, CIA intervention, FISA perjury, economic takeoff, and explosion in American individual wealth are all fake news.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
Geoman 12/30/2019 12:10:02 PM (No. 274462)
Priorities: God, Country, Family.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
Congar 12/30/2019 12:36:20 PM (No. 274485)
One day Liberals might realize that all who disagree with them are not ignorant retards like they would prefer to believe. Anything that approaches the truth is treated like Kryptonite by liberals.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
MickTurn 12/30/2019 12:56:36 PM (No. 274507)
Impossible, Athiest Communists are their own Gods!
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
rusino 12/30/2019 2:30:45 PM (No. 274563)
Dean Banquet is an Elite Prig! He knows all Trump supporters aren’t religious Zealots! ....of course it is my understanding that the Elite of the NYT’s is occupied by Atheists and Homosexual Leftist’s. As one who is a Bitter Clinger I have no desire to better understand them...they have made themselves very clear!
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
BarryNo 12/30/2019 2:32:36 PM (No. 274566)
That's elite-speak for, "we need a new way to manipulate them."
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
NotaBene 12/30/2019 2:53:23 PM (No. 274579)
The Amazon Post and Slim Times are transcribers for the enemy within the CIA, FBI, DoS and now (Vindman) the Army.
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
NYbob 12/30/2019 3:10:03 PM (No. 274584)
Haven't had the pleasure of conversing with a NYT reporter, but I have had discussions with their fans and it is always a fruitless exercise. They talk like they are educated and understand logic, but a few seconds into any hot button topic, like guns/self defense, and it is a minefield of emotional hate. Nothing I say gets thru, nothing. They wait till I am done with my point and they go back to the simpleton, fantasy, draconian, ideas they started with. I've never seen a faster switch to a close mind than the pious, emotional, childlike mindset of any liberal who thinks they know everything about guns, abortion, drugs, poverty, etc., but most of all human nature and how they and their troopers could 'fix' any society. It's like trying to play chess with a rabid ape.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
columba 12/30/2019 4:02:48 PM (No. 274638)
It's easy to figure us out. We all have missing teeth, watch NASCAR and are easily led.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
ussjimmycarter 12/30/2019 4:06:38 PM (No. 274639)
Minus Faith in God through the gift of the Holy Spirit, you will never "understand" religion. Faith is a gift and can't be scientifically dissected by some pin headed journalist with an agenda! By all means, come talk to us...but be open minded! Be careful, the Gospel of Jesus Christ is powerful and you might just find yourself on our side looking out! That would be a blessing for any member of the press! We pray for the salvation of all mankind and welcome you to our fold. But please, don't patronize us! God will not be mocked!
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
bobmadison 12/30/2019 5:06:49 PM (No. 274676)
True story: Years ago a woman in New York was quoted as saying, "I can't understand why Nixon won. All of my friends were against him." Life is all about communicating and relating. First with God and then with people. Often I tell the Sunday School class, "Pride is Satan's #1 weapon to keep people from God and make Christians backslide.
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
Quigley 12/30/2019 6:40:05 PM (No. 274743)
We need to figure them out so we can learn how to say the bad stuff we’re gonna do in a way that they won’t understand what we mean but will think they understand it to mean something else that they’re ok with. Our old misdirection just doesn’t seem to work anymore.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
XCenturion 12/30/2019 7:37:58 PM (No. 274781)
It appears that a village is missing its idiot! We are loyal American patriots that want to see the legal citizens of this nation thrive, less governmental intrusion in our lives and not be dependent on government handouts.
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Reply 46 - Posted by:
judy 12/31/2019 3:59:10 AM (No. 275028)
NYTimes .... compare Trump to Pelosi, Nadler, Schiff, Schumer, Maxine....and you have your answer to why people support Trump.
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