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Hole in the ozone is now the smallest
it has been on record since it was
discovered in 1982, NASA confirms

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Posted By: Ribicon, 10/22/2019 9:43:02 AM

The hole in the ozone layer has shrunk to its smallest size since scientists began monitoring it in 1982 because of unusual weather patterns in the upper atmosphere over Antarctica, according to NASA. The hole fluctuates in size annually and is usually largest during the coldest months in the southern hemisphere, from late September to early October. The latest observations from space have shown the hole now covers less than 3.9million square miles–a record low and almost half as small as it was during its peak at 6.3million on September 8 only six weeks ago. Experts say the hole is usually

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Muh ozone layer.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Ribicon 10/22/2019 9:44:06 AM (No. 214370)
FTA: "According to NASA, the 'main ingredient' in the ozone-destroying process is are so-called polar stratospheric clouds."So this is a natural phenomenon, rather than a man-caused disaster.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: anotherctyankee 10/22/2019 9:46:12 AM (No. 214373)
No, my neighbor said that the space launches caused it. And, he should know, he knows everything.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Rumblehog 10/22/2019 9:48:16 AM (No. 214376)
Then can we please bring back R-12 Freon?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: hershey 10/22/2019 9:50:51 AM (No. 214381)
But but but weren't we all gonna die from the ozone hole??? DIdn't we have to change refrigerant for the ozone hole? Didn't we have to give up aerosols for the ozone hole????
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 10/22/2019 9:54:36 AM (No. 214390)
The Daily Mail strikes again. This time, the lefty Milly Vincent states, "However, the news that the hole is shrinking is not necessarily a good sign — as the process that is closing the hole is a clear product of rising global temperatures." Milly, you can't have it both ways. Previously, you said that the hole is expanding as a clear sign of rising global temperatures. Which is it, honey? Tell your editor handlers to get their story straight.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: JediJerry 10/22/2019 10:13:29 AM (No. 214413)
I guess Freon has nothing to do with it since it fluctuates on seasonal predictable variations.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: DVC 10/22/2019 10:15:33 AM (No. 214415)
Like discovering that there is this HUGE salty body of water on the eastern part of the USA, it must be our fault, and HOW DO WE STOP IT FROM GETTING BIGGER? We have absolutely ZERO data about "the ozone hole", whether it is good, bad or what. How it formed - probably a billion years ago, and what affects it. And yet, the first thought is "Our fault, must be harmful, have to stop people from doing SOMETHING." Total hogwash.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: A.I. 10/22/2019 10:40:05 AM (No. 214453)
How could the climate scientists be wrong?
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Lawsy0 10/22/2019 10:49:37 AM (No. 214465)
Everyone knows it was the combustion engine that started it! Or maybe it was the plastic straws.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Clinger 10/22/2019 10:52:45 AM (No. 214471)
I'm pretty sure I already died because my Right Guard killed the ozone layer which was my only defense against the death ray from Ming the Merciless on planet Mongo.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Bazi 10/22/2019 11:16:26 AM (No. 214499)
So...the ozone hole has been shrinking and now it's too small? Exactly what year was the hole it's optimal size? Which year did we have perfect temperatures across the globe? What is the perfect temperature, anyway? So many questions without answers.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Axeman 10/22/2019 11:21:19 AM (No. 214504)
Ozone is created when a molecule of oxygen (O2) gets blasted by energy and breaks apart into two charged oxygen atoms. These will try to recombine with whatever they can. If that is another O2 molecule it will form O3, ozone. Ozone is much more reactive than O2 and will not exist long without reacting with something and giving up that extra atom. The reason it is in the atmosphere at all is from the Sun's energetic rays blasting oxygen that leaks up there from below. The air is so thin there is not much to react with so it hangs around. The problem with Freon was that it catalyzed the ozone into oxygen repeatedly without loosing it's power to do so. Other things "eat" ozone but have a more limited ability. Now, here's why that would never be a problem. Ozone is not produced in the polar regions in the winter as much because the Sun doesn't shine there in the winter, duh. The "ozone hole" which is really just a thinning, only exists when the Sun is shining least, when nothing needs protection. When the Sun shines the hardest it creates the most ozone. And UV is bad enough when the ozone is at high levels. This kind of junk science worry mongering makes me skeptical of every projected result of any "scientific" fact.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Redwing57 10/22/2019 11:54:29 AM (No. 214533)
The ozone hole was always climate fear-mongering. This has a few primary aims: 1) rationalize the existence of oppressive government organizations and the jobs therein (e.g. EPA), 2) create more bureaucracy to track the existence of "banned" materials, tax the materials year-over-year, create reports and so on, and 3) drive funding of research grants to "prove" there really is such a problem and the governments must keep taxing and running bureaus to manage it all. It's quite a gravy train. The "science" supporting the Montreal Protocol for R12 elimination was always tenuous. Speculative reactions involving stratospheric ice crystals acting as substrates for the reactions, and so on. It was much more complex than sun+R12 --> free chlorine--> damaged ozone. The redistribution of tax money to a LOT of people was the real goal. The EPA was appalled that we in American industry so quickly got away from R12; that we implemented R134A in barely two years was completely unexpected. I worked on that project within the auto industry, and we did it quite expeditiously. So now what? What's the EPA to do? Why... R134 is a, a, a.... Global Warming Gas! Yeah, that's the ticket. Global warming! So, yay! More government jobs, More grants. More bureaucrats. Cost? Bah, this is Saving the Planet! We have to do something, this is something, so we have to do this! What a load. What passes for "science" now is rather appalling. It's all politics. It's all shameless grubbing for grant funding. Aspiring university profs that don't land enough grant money won't get tenure. Publish or perish. It's an unholy system. Profs propose studies that explore and "prove" politically palatable topics and results, to keep the whole machine running on that precious green fuel.... the almighty dollar.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: john56 10/22/2019 11:55:36 AM (No. 214537)
It's Trump's fault?
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Reply 15 - Posted by: cold porridge 10/22/2019 1:52:59 PM (No. 214627)
I see it as more WINNING! Besides all the great accomplishments of the Trump administration, I will give the president the credit. Not because that is accurate, but is just as accurate as any climate "science." So, Thanks President Trump!
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Reply 16 - Posted by: walcb 10/22/2019 2:16:50 PM (No. 214637)
Everyone needs to read #12, this is the explanation. The sun is currently less active and this is why surface temperatures have been flat since 2000.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 10/22/2019 2:31:19 PM (No. 214645)
No ozone hole! Lots and lots of polar bears! The leftist utopia is crashing before their eyes. Mommy! Mommy! Please don't leave me all alone in this basement!
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Reply 18 - Posted by: DVC 10/22/2019 2:47:47 PM (No. 214655)
#12, I had a chemist who actually believed all that mule manure about freon and the "ozone hole" explaining this whole theory to a group of company engineers back at a company meeting in Long Beach, on April 29, 1992. (Check and see why, being at a conference in Long Beach, I remember the date) He explained all this great theory, with chemical equations and catalytic effects and all that. And then I asked one question. He had no answer then, and there is no answer now. Here's the question: Since Freon 12 is over 1200 times as dense as our atmosphere at sea level, please explain again the part of your diagram where "and the freon rises up into the stratosphere and becomes a catalyst for ozone....". IMPOSSIBLE, it cannot float up to the stratosphere. This is like saying that dropping boulders into the ocean will endanger ships because they will run into them floating on the surface. Totally insane, cannot happen. And the home AC version of Freon, Freon 22, is just under 3,000 times denser than air at sea level. And note this is SEA LEVEL AIR DENSITY. The density of the atmosphere at the level of the stratosphere is about one eighth the density at sea level, making the Freon 12 just under 10,000 times as dense, and the Freon 22 just about 24,000 times as dense as the atmosphere is supposedly floats along in. Hogwash. By comparison, lead is only 11 times as dense as water, the boulders that I spoke of above are only 3 times the density of water. So, we are absolutely certain that lead will not just spontaneously rise to the top of a lake or ocean because it is 11 times as dense as the water, but we are supposed to believe that Freon which is 10,000 times as dense as the stratosphere, just floats on up there and stays there? Bull hockey. It always was and it still is. This is a fairy tale, a total lie.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: droopydog 10/22/2019 2:49:50 PM (No. 214657)
Oh yeah, I almost forgot about that scam
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Reply 20 - Posted by: couchguy 10/22/2019 4:59:12 PM (No. 214715)
Seems like only yesterday it was going to kill us all.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: franq 10/22/2019 5:15:14 PM (No. 214726)
No money in it, #3, the patent expired. Which was why Dupont had to come up with a reason to ban it...hence the ozone hole nonsense. Read somewhere that lightning generates a lot of ozone too. Great point, #18. I had never heard that; completely demolishes the freon theory.
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