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Microsoft’s Latest Windows 10 Patch
Breaks Start Menu, Desktop Search

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Posted By: M2, 9/14/2019 11:44:51 AM

Microsoft attempts to fix the various issues plaguing Windows 10, but the latest patch release only caused more problems in the system. It's been tough going for Microsoft when it comes to Windows 10. Specifically, the patch caused issues in the search option of the Start menu and Taskbar. Microsoft released a patch called KB4515384 on Tuesday, Sept. 10, which was meant to address issues in Cortana and SearchUI functionality causing high CPU spikes and the Desktop Search to cease functioning properly. Unfortunately, the patch proved to be an unreliable fix, with reports of the Windows 10 Start Menu failing to work properly. ExtremeTech

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Reply 1 - Posted by: cjjeepercreeper 9/14/2019 11:56:25 AM (No. 179728)
Wow, brings back memories of 95, 98 and ME. 7 has been the most stable version of Windows ever and I am not giving it up until it is torn from my cold, dead hands.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: grayjay 9/14/2019 11:59:38 AM (No. 179731)
As most people already know, Windows 10 now does updates without asking the user. It drives my wife crazy, as it always removes the Windows 7 games that she manually installs, this latest update her Cortana disappeared, other functions will change. It becomes very frustrating, as you don't know just what they are trying to fix or change, and you just discover it as something now doesn't work!
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Reply 3 - Posted by: coldoc 9/14/2019 12:10:37 PM (No. 179741)
Mac user, flawless for over 10 years. Windows IS a virus.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Rumblehog 9/14/2019 12:11:07 PM (No. 179742)
Windows XP and 7 were by far the best OS's Microsoft ever developed, and later abandoned. It is possible to load a "virtual machine" to get back to those old OS's, or better yet, just buy a used computer with those already installed.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: earlybird 9/14/2019 12:22:34 PM (No. 179753)
Forever with Microsoft, and becoming more frustrated all the time with the flaws in Windows (though thanks to an LDotter I haven’t seen around for years, I did not do most of the system upgrades, staying for a long time with a fairly low level, problem-free version. 4.72? Anyhow, between Windows and a troublesome Firefox, I was ready for a change. Santa brought me a Mac laptop in 2006. I had mocked my DH’s longtime loyalty to Apple. I stopped mocking. I don’t like Apple, I don’t like Tim Cook, I have an old 4S handmedown phone that is just fine, but I cannot imagine ever going back to Microsoft.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: clipped wings 9/14/2019 12:25:18 PM (No. 179758)
I bought a new, 15" XYZ laptop several years ago. It came with Vista installed. I traveled that evening. In my hotel room, I tried to get acquainted with the new (very nice) laptop and Vista. I thought it was a bit weird, but plugged on. The second evening, I could not get Vista to close. I had to unplug the laptop and remove the battery to shut the computer down. I asked one of the computer-savvy people with whom I was working to take a look . He opined that the machine was top-notch, but the OS stank. Yes. Two days later, I took the "infected" laptop back to the seller and ordered a Mac laptop. It was three generations earlier than the MacBook Pro I'm using at the moment, but it still works. I gave it to a grandson a couple of years ago. I'm looking forward the the new Mac OS that will arrive -- free -- next month. I agree with an earlier poster. The last Microsoft OS that was truly useful, was XP.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: GO3 9/14/2019 12:36:00 PM (No. 179768)
Agree with others, thumbs up for XP.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: grampus 9/14/2019 12:46:22 PM (No. 179775)
As posted above, I also managed to keep 7 by getting a used computer that had 7. Also have managed to steer clear of Microsoft tricks that would have automatically "updated" me. Now, however, Microsoft has warned that beginning early in 2020 it will no longer service or have anything to do with 7. THANKS! Nevertheless, I'll probably not change. At my age, even changing my underwear is difficult. Believe me, Apple would be beyond my diminishing cognitive abilities. .
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Reply 9 - Posted by: dman 9/14/2019 12:53:46 PM (No. 179779)
I volunteered to be a Windows 98 [and later Windows ME] "beta tester" when my young son wanted Windows 98 before its official release. Based on that experience, this comes as no surprise. Many "fixes" break or simply remove popular "features". This happens when the OS has fundamental flaws [aka "back doors"], and the "bean counters" force release before things have been thoroughly tested and verified stable. This is why, like many current and former engineers, I prefer Linux - despite its own imperfections. At least there is an honest effort to correct them when discovered, and there is no deliberate policy of "planned obsolescence". [I am using Debian9 Linux on my 2006 PC as I write this. (Debian10 has some gnome boot and driver issues.)]
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Reply 10 - Posted by: edgar 9/14/2019 1:01:40 PM (No. 179789)
And probably requires two or three additional mouse clicks to execute even a basic user function.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: southernboy 9/14/2019 1:22:32 PM (No. 179806)
Love Mac. Don't give a thought to who Tim Cook is!
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Reply 12 - Posted by: lakerman1 9/14/2019 1:33:41 PM (No. 179816)
I find it interesting that Bill Gates has managed to hoodwink customers with the same crappy product year after year, and it has allowed him to become one of the wealthiest people in the world. And by the time I figure it out, he abandons the system that works. It is about equivalent to Ford, selling the same Pinto, year after year. ('Little Pintos all combustin'' in the words of Gary Trudeau.) And when you try to keep the Pinto on the road, it self destructs, internally, and you have to buy a new, imperfect 'improved' Pinto.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: earlybird 9/14/2019 1:38:41 PM (No. 179819)
Should have mentioned that since 2014 I have been using a MacBook Pro Retina that came as a premium from my mileage program. A zillion business miles that I didn’t plan to use…
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Reply 14 - Posted by: crashnburn 9/14/2019 1:48:28 PM (No. 179830)
I was the last XP user in a former company, mostly because the software I was developing wasn't compatible with Windows 7. I eventually had to transition to Win 7. I kept talking about how great XP was compared to Win 7, but I eventually tried XP again, using a VMware, and I decided Win 7 was much better, as long as your PC has the resources. I used XP past the last Micro$oft support time, and I know they continued to make "invisible" changes to it, as programs I'd developed for, and worked on XP suddenly started failing with no changes by me. I suspect the same will be true of Windows 7. I'm (obviously) with the "Pry Windows 7 from my cold, dead fingers" crowd. BTW, the odd number releases always seem to be better than the even number releases. Maybe windows 19 will be better than Windoze 10!
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Reply 15 - Posted by: chumley 9/14/2019 1:54:40 PM (No. 179843)
I do most of my LDotting and other surfing on a laptop. Recently the processor has been running at massive speeds and heating up like crazy. Fan runs constantly. It eats up the battery in no time. I finally ended up turning down the processor speed manually and have almost tripled my battery time. The article suggested my problem is one of the symptoms of their poor patches.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Rob_NC 9/14/2019 1:55:26 PM (No. 179845)
My laptop is in the shop trying to get it back up...
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Lucky5 9/14/2019 2:39:02 PM (No. 179880)
I used XP way past the date they wanted you to ditch it, and now I am sticking with Windows 7. I bought a new computer with windows 7 the year they stopped offering it. My kids have Win 7 and when they need help, it drives me a bit batty. Luckily they added back some features to find things and trouble shoot, but over all, I do not care for it and do not want to switch to it.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: pinger 9/14/2019 3:11:24 PM (No. 179896)
I moved over to 10 shorty after it was introduced since there were some things that I thought I wanted or needed in it (I don't remember what they were) and have been annoyed by it ever since. I knew my way around 7 blindfolded but am still befuddled by 10 and cuss myself for changing. After a recent update I couldn't power down my system without unplugging.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: hershey 9/14/2019 3:30:07 PM (No. 179906)
Run windoze if you like, but know that you can also load Linux and use that instead. Did it on my old HP and works like a charm....desktop even looks like windoze...
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Reply 20 - Posted by: hoosierblue 9/14/2019 3:59:48 PM (No. 179921)
I'm just setting it up moving from 7 since it is going past support stage. Some parts of it seem OK but it seems to be VERY intrusive, It just did a big update and it tried to stop my classic shell menu and reverted back to the windows menu. Then I get a pop up that states classic shell is not authorized. At the bottom there is a message that Classic shell needs to be reconfigured. When I click it off , class shell comes back on. Strange.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: joew9 9/14/2019 4:15:39 PM (No. 179928)
The best thing you can do for Win 10 is shut down the process Windows Search. And also disable prefetch and superfetch. All of them will hog your processor and hard drive and deliver nothing of much value. But much to my dismay microsoft updates sometimes turns them back on. $&$^*#$^@!
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Reply 22 - Posted by: earlybird 9/14/2019 4:15:48 PM (No. 179929)
Oh, dear. With all respect, I wouldn’t know the Microsoft language any more. Or how complicated everything is. I click on a Mac OS update and it downloads and installs the new OS. Or I skip it for a while to see if I really want it, or whether others are having problems with the new one… That’s about it.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: TulsaTowner 9/14/2019 4:30:52 PM (No. 179937)
Ran XP until Firefox would just barely work with it. Was unimpressed with a Win 7 laptop I bought, then Win 10 came out and that was the end of it for me with Microsoft. Now running Linux Debian 8. It's been a bit of a learning curve to switch, but well worth it. I run Quicken and Quickbooks on it under Wine. Still have some old engineering programs that work great on Linux under DOSBox. Pretty much have best of everything WITH stability. Goodbye MS.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Smart11344 9/14/2019 4:32:16 PM (No. 179939)
Almost every new OS from MS is full of bugs. I remember when Bill Gates walked on the stage at what was known then as the "Opera House" with a packed house of dignitaries and major local media, the Rolling Stones Song, "Start Me Up" was played. Bill Gates turned the machine on and the first thing that happened was the blue screen of death popped up. Technicians scurried to save the day. Gates has a hot temper, but controled it there. I imagine when they got back to there head quarters all hell broke out.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: LittleHoodedMonk 9/14/2019 5:20:24 PM (No. 179978)
My Adobe Flash has quit working just after updating IE and Firefox to Quantum. No matter what I do, can't get video, except in IE. I never, ever use Internet Explorer. While looking everywhere on the Internet, came across this article. It seems to fit this discussion. "Microsoft Secretly Includes Telemetry Software in More Windows Updates Windows 7 and 8.1 updates coming with telemetry tasks" It seems to me that these software companies have an excuse for any data mining they do, especially against our knowledge. We have no recourse against them.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: JHHolliday 9/14/2019 10:52:22 PM (No. 180164)
I am still running XPpro on my desktop. Very stable. MS should have stopped with that one. I have WIN 10 on my laptop. Pretty good so far but I have blocked the last 3 updates. I might have gone to Macs years ago but they were overpriced and difficult to network for my business. I still think Apple is gouging MAC users.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: ladydawgfan 9/15/2019 12:07:28 AM (No. 180181)
I have Win7 on my desktop running with no problems. When Win10 came out and MS was updating older versions to Win10 whether or not they wanted it, on the advice of a computer expert, i downloaded and installed Never10, a program which rejected instantly all attempts by MS to force my computer to upgrade to 10 in patches and "fixes." I also turned off my automatic update and made sure it was never turned back on. I have had no problems so far, and I am happy with how it is running, with the exception of a couple of programs that ran on my WinXP laptop before it died completely. They aren't configured for Win7, so the projects and whatnot that they worked with are saved on my hard drive, on the off chance that I can eventually find a way to open them. Frankly, I'm done with playing MicroScam's games. I don't care if they drop support for Win7 either. I'm keeping my Win7 until Christ comes again, or my computer dies, whichever happens first!!
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Reply 28 - Posted by: MickTurn 9/15/2019 9:15:31 AM (No. 180392)
Micro$oft Windows...whipped cream on top of Dog Droppings.
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