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SATs will now contain secret ´adversity scores´: Students will be rated on deprivation and crime in effort to level playing field for poor and minority teens-but nobody will*

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Posted By: JoniTx, 5/16/2019 4:40:27 PM

Every student taking the SAT will now be given an ´adversity score´ to level the playing field between people with different social and economic backgrounds, but critics say children of affluent parents could be penalized by the new system. The scoring system was established by the national College Board, the nonprofit which administers the test, according to The Wall Street Journal. The new system will use 15 different factors to weigh a student´s adversity score, based on things such as the crime and poverty rates in the neighborhood where the teens grew up. Other elements of the adversity index include


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Lala 5/16/2019 4:44:13 PM (No. 66309)
College degrees today are utterly worthless. Further evidence.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: hammondb3 5/16/2019 4:48:53 PM (No. 66293)
Then future employers will have to ´back out´ this unfair advantage when they hire.

That is the problem with affirmative action. It does two VERT destructive things...

1. Promotes people into situations where they are not qualified where they either fail themselves or fail OTHERS when they cannot perform their jobs.

2. Casts doubt on those who ARE minorities and FULLY capable of great things without the need for an artificial advantage.

There is NOTHING good that comes from affirmative action or added phantom points to someone´s SAT because they come from a bad part of town.

And, truth be told, why not just call this what is IS? This is SUBTRACTING points from those who are unmistakably CAPABLE.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: hammondb3 5/16/2019 4:49:46 PM (No. 66310)

I went to an affirmative action typing class.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Nevadadad46 5/16/2019 4:50:06 PM (No. 66296)
This is exactly how you destroy your excellence in word comeptetion with other nations. Excellene is what keeps this nation going. It did once, anyway. When you start equating criminals and stupid people with people who really give a damn about their future and the moral interpetude to make something great of yourself, then you have lost all purpose in trying to educate your people. Nothing will mean anything once these dumb bunnies graduate. Remember, Ocasio cortez - look at education: Born to a working-class Puerto Rican family in the Bronx, New York, Ocasio-Cortez graduated from Boston University, majoring in economics and international relations- and she is dumber than a drawer of sox.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: skacmar 5/16/2019 5:01:57 PM (No. 66295)
Will the black kid who grew up in Harlem with a stable upper middle class family and managed to get good grades and succeed get extra points over the rich kid from Westchester with abusive alcoholic parents who managed to get good grades? Just because you appear to not come from an adverse situation does not mean that you did not. Your score should be based on your test question answers, not your personal situation.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: checkmatekingtwo 5/16/2019 5:12:35 PM (No. 66305)
If part of this adversity score is based on your zip code, you know affluent and/or middle class parents are going to start buying or renting condemned property in the worst part of town and using that as their child´s address for purpose of taking the SAT.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Skinnydip 5/16/2019 5:13:41 PM (No. 66292)
Ah, affirmative action at work. Just remember that when you fly and have AA Air Traffic Controllers guiding the pilots.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Clinger 5/16/2019 5:15:38 PM (No. 66303)
Where do you stop this? Affirmative action doctors? The answer given goobermint medicare for all, sure thing except the elites will know who the real doctors are.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: pilot222 5/16/2019 5:18:48 PM (No. 66291)
When will the insanity stop that started mid 2015. America cannot be this stupid. Thank God there is a capable, smart adult in the WH to at least protect some of America from the galactically stupid.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog 5/16/2019 5:22:18 PM (No. 66300)
Erm, why aren´t tests scored on a double-blind system ALREADY? That is the best way to avoid bias, conscious or otherwise.

Do doctors judge lab results based on someone´s skin color or racial identity?

First they lowered the bar for admissions by accepting dodgy test results. Now they´re lowering the bar for tests.

If you´re a minority and/or poor you should be incandescent with rage that someone is patronizing you in this manner. After all, you´re the ones claiming pride, dignity, etc. You can prove it by demanding to be held to the same standard as anyone else.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: KTWO 5/16/2019 5:31:23 PM (No. 66294)
I don´t see how false scores will improve decisions.

But it will provide deniability; colleges can then deny they subjectively and/or secretly favor or penalize.

Why not give everyone the same SAT score. That would automatically level the playing field.

Then apply the same principle to criminal law and eliminate juries. That would ensure no Juror is prejudiced.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Shadow722 5/16/2019 5:43:06 PM (No. 66308)
So instead of rich parents bribing someone to get their spawn into a "good" university, they will set the kid up in a "bad" zip code, and pay a spinnster aunt to fake raising the the high school brat...

Money will always find a way to game the system.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: bad-hair 5/16/2019 5:45:22 PM (No. 66298)
Oh … Did we forget to mention? After your adversity score is calculated you STILL have to pay back the $190,000 we paid USC for you.

Suck it up and vote Socialista.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Newtsche 5/16/2019 5:45:39 PM (No. 66299)
I can´t even call this paving the road to hell with good intentions, it´s institutionalized destruction at its most cynical.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Philipsonh 5/16/2019 5:49:02 PM (No. 66302)
Of what use is college to a student who can´t read, spell, do math, or much of anything that college is SUPPOSED to build on. Many schools have remedial courses for freshman because they should have never graduated from High School to begin with and cannot do college grade work.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: thethirdruffian 5/16/2019 6:02:46 PM (No. 66301)
I already own some crappy apartments in the ´hood, so I guess that´s now my kids´ official address for school.

What else do we need to manipulate?
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Reply 17 - Posted by: raspberry 5/16/2019 6:14:25 PM (No. 66307)
1984 in full bloom.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: bad-hair 5/16/2019 6:22:10 PM (No. 66297)
Monty Python time. I´m NOT dead yet. Feel pretty good actually. Think I´ll take a walk around the block. (Ominously … BRING OUT YOUR DEAD") Any one for lunch? OY Where´s my doctor?
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Reply 19 - Posted by: NorthernDog 5/16/2019 6:24:43 PM (No. 66290)
Why not cut to the chase and say if you support the Democrat party you get admitted. Conservative kids go to the back of the bus.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: PESSIMIST 5/16/2019 6:30:31 PM (No. 66306)
The liberals´ brains will be twisted like pretzels trying to figure out how to score low-income immigrant Chinese kids who already score high on the SAT. So perplexing!
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Reply 21 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 5/16/2019 7:04:12 PM (No. 66311)
Blatant affirmative action has been denied by the courts. Now they are trying to bake it into the test scores.

The idiocy of this is WHAT the SAT score are trying to determine, the preparedness of the person taking the test to compete with others. Feeling sorry for disadvantaged kids will achieve nothing when they are admitted into a school that requires higher scores. They will be overwhelmed by the rigor of the academics that they are unprepared to deal with. The choice then will be to lower academic requirements or to flunk out the kids.

The right way to fix this is to stop making excuses and demand better performance as soon as kids start in the educational system. THAT is when it needs to be "fixed".

It seems that the educational system is incapable of doing that because the problem has persisted for decades no matter how much money is thrown at it.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: planetgeo 5/16/2019 7:39:08 PM (No. 66304)
Outrageous. Yet another attempt to skirt objective measures and give "Preferred Groups" advantageous treatment. Totally invalidates the SAT as a legitimate "standardized test".
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Reply 23 - Posted by: padiva 5/16/2019 11:03:59 PM (No. 66340)
Wouldn't it be easier and fairer to offer opportunities for tutoring and test preparation? What is the student's interest and capability to learn? What is their emotional IQ?
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Reply 24 - Posted by: HisHandmaiden 5/17/2019 2:07:45 AM (No. 66351)
An exercise in futility, and typical “lower-the-bar” left il-logic... and, if this were the case in 2006, Daughter #2 in a graduating class of 6 [though Valedictorian] and aced the SAT’s [5 years of Latin at a classical Christian school was key] would not have gotten full rides to UVA, Hopkins etc. Now both Daughters [Daughter #1 with Merit Scholarship to Sweet Briar — perfect for her after dad left] agree, college is a Country Club for rich kids. Community College and two years of volunteer/apprentice in bent/talent field makes much more sense [from a mom with BS in business and two masters [once a life-long learner, always one]. Even better, start a small business with whatever is your passion by 16, pray, work hard, innovate, and grow. Then it will never be work! And give back to community as much as possible.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Marjbaldwin 5/17/2019 2:38:24 AM (No. 66352)
The highest Adversity Score will be given to those unfortunate students who've had to endure violent bullying by Antifa thugs, slander by the Enemedia for wearing MAGA caps, and condemnation from former presidents for being "bitter clingers". /s
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Reply 26 - Posted by: galbaccr 5/17/2019 5:06:10 AM (No. 66362)
In 1956, I was accepted to Pittsburgh university for that fall. I had not taken the SAT's, but went to a small HS (my grad class was 142) in the county, known for excellence in sports, academics and music. I later found out that had I gone to larger school that my twp would pay for (it had no HS) I would have had to take the SAT, even if I had straight A's. My hs grade average was B+/A-. The local universities had access to scores for schools in the SW Pa area. My school needed no SAT if a student had a B or better average. That larger HS (grad classes over 1000), had to take the SAT's even if straight A's. When I got to college, I found out why. A couple basketball students from that larger HS had to take some remedial classes. ;-(
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Strike3 5/17/2019 5:12:06 AM (No. 66363)
What they really mean is "diversity" scores. Give the dregs of society the biggest number of bonus points to make the playing field even. Aren't these people already given enough crutches in life? Why don't we just give their families $200K a year so they don't commit crimes? Yeah, that will work.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: ROLFNader 5/17/2019 6:58:16 AM (No. 66387)
I heard the guy who is behind all this on NPR the other day. Watch for them to pit the poorest kids against those that are so rich that their parents have the money to bribe colleges. Every student within that spectrum will be controlled even more than they are now when it comes to mastering groupthink.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Socio 5/17/2019 7:51:33 AM (No. 66394)
Instead of token SAT scores which is what this amounts to, I have a better idea just have Whites and Asians stop taking the SAT's and automatically give them a set lower end score, same result, less work and no secrets.
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