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Justice Sotomayor: Hispanics have ‘rational fear’ of Trump administration citizenship question

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Posted By: Ribicon, 4/23/2019 11:36:27 PM

Hispanics have “legitimate fear” of the Trump administration and its quest to query Americans about their citizenship on the 2020 Census, Justice Sonia Sotomayor said Tuesday, as the Supreme Court debated whether President Trump has the power to add the question back in to the decennial count. The government’s lawyer, Solicitor General Noel Francisco, was less than two sentences into his argument when Justice Sotomayor pounced for the first time, keeping up a steady stream of questions suggesting Mr. Trump and his team invented reasons to ask about citizenship, and that Hispanics in particular will refuse to take part, souring

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The Unwise Latina´s point appears to be that most Hispanics are in the USA illegally, and thus fear discovery by admitting that they should not be here. Highly offensive no matter how you slice it.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: IowaDad 4/23/2019 11:50:22 PM (No. 43510)
Sounds like collusion and obstruction to me.

But, then, what do I know?
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Ben Around 4/23/2019 11:53:09 PM (No. 43500)

Yes, the unwise latina is very offensive.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: SALady 4/24/2019 12:08:03 AM (No. 43495)
The last I checked was that the Supreme Court was there to determine if something was constitutional or not!!! Period!!!

What does fear or feelings have to do with if something is constitutional or not?!?!?!? Let me help you, Justice Sotomayor -- they have absolutely nothing to do with whether it is constitutional or not to have that question on the census!!!! Please do the freakin´ job you are paid for!!!!!
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Reply 4 - Posted by: pilot222 4/24/2019 12:25:29 AM (No. 43491)
Is nothing pure anymore? Even the Supreme Court has been corrupted by the Obola. Doing exactly what she agreed to do before she was nominated. Muddy the waters on important decisions.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: JunkYardDog 4/24/2019 12:29:33 AM (No. 43496)
American citizens with Hispanic heritage have NOTHING to fear. Why would they? The purpose of the citizenship question in the census is to determine, based upon the legitimate number of voters, what number of Representatives are appointed to represent a state in the House of Representatives.

"The U.S. Constitution requires a census every 10 years of all persons living in the
country for the purpose of apportioning seats in the U.S. House of Representatives (Article I, sec. 2,
clause 3) among the states. The Constitution explicitly requires an “actual Enumeration” of “all
persons,” imposing on the federal government the duty to count the “whole number of persons in
each State.” Both Republican and Democratic administrations, through the U.S. Department of
Justice (DOJ), have confirmed unequivocally that the Constitution requires a count of all persons
living in the United States on Census Day, regardless of citizenship status."
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Reply 6 - Posted by: sailannapolis 4/24/2019 12:40:40 AM (No. 43489)
If the "Hispanics are "legssl" they have nothing to fear.

If they are here illegally than they do not have a voice in our government and are not legally allowed to vote in our elections and yes, that will affect the democrats.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: DVC 4/24/2019 12:42:42 AM (No. 43484)
Only the illegals, only the illegals. And they SHOULD be scared, they ALL should be deported.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: JediJerry 4/24/2019 12:43:52 AM (No. 43505)
Always the racist accusations towards a non-racist from true racists.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Peeps 4/24/2019 12:53:47 AM (No. 43494)
Why women should not be on the supreme court. I´m a woman. So don´t you dare.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Rumblehog 4/24/2019 12:54:41 AM (No. 43504)
Ah yes, our "wise Latrina" speaks!
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Reply 11 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 4/24/2019 12:58:22 AM (No. 43511)
I remember when she was nominated and said something about "making laws" instead of interpreting laws.

For the fun of it, I tell people to be sure to fill out the census because there will be more ´free stuff´
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Reply 12 - Posted by: JL80863 4/24/2019 1:04:17 AM (No. 43499)
Just the sort of dim witted racist comment one would expect from an obama justice. I have a rational fear of what the SOB tried to do to our republic.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: PChristopher 4/24/2019 1:34:57 AM (No. 43493)
Is Hispanics here the new code for ILLEGAL ALIENS!? I want to see Sotominor´s green card!
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Reply 14 - Posted by: bighambone 4/24/2019 1:38:25 AM (No. 43503)
Common sense will tell you that Hispanics who are US citizens or who are legally present in the USA would have no reason to have any sort of fear from filling out a census form and declaring their citizenship status, and that the only Hispanics who would have an “irrational fear” of doing that would be illegal aliens.

With about 22 million illegal aliens now in the USA, it is also “irrational” to believe that the US Government would be able to use the census questionnaire to identity and round them up for deportation.

This issue just goes to show that just by their unlawful presence in the USA that large numbers of illegal aliens cause the apportionment of US congressional seats into low income urban areas that have large numbers of illegal aliens sojourning there, Making it more likely that the leftist and liberal Democrats will win the elections in those districts with a much lower vote count then other districts that consist of mostly all US citizens, simply because those urban illegal alien heavy districts where lots of illegal aliens are sojourning have a lot less legal voters then other US citizen heavy districts.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: tom7 4/24/2019 1:38:47 AM (No. 43509)
The US citizenry have a legitimate fear that Sotomayor is a racist.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Marjbaldwin 4/24/2019 1:43:36 AM (No. 43497)
Our Lightbringer did not appoint justice Sonia because she was wise, but because she was not.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: judy 4/24/2019 2:56:31 AM (No. 43488)
That’s sounds like a slap in the face to the legal immigrants?
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Reply 18 - Posted by: DVC 4/24/2019 3:28:34 AM (No. 43498)
And further proof that keep in PR was really serious error.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: winmag 4/24/2019 6:10:44 AM (No. 43483)
Third worlders in congress, supreme court, and presidency. We soon will be Venezuela.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: rinohunter 4/24/2019 6:32:23 AM (No. 43492)
I´m scared of the IRS - is that grounds that the IRS is unconstitutional? I´m scared of TSA losers putting on a show of "security" even though their efficacy is dubious - should they be done away with? Probably. But my feelings have NOTHING to do with their existence and the "invaluable" service they provide. And to change the subject, was Ruth Buzzy Ginzburger present at the arguments or did she sleep through it all exuding that pleasant aroma of mothballs?
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Reply 21 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 4/24/2019 6:36:37 AM (No. 43482)
I sure wish that this fat lady would sing.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Nimby 4/24/2019 6:46:40 AM (No. 43485)
And why? What crime have they committed?
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Lazyman 4/24/2019 6:51:41 AM (No. 43506)
Subjective thinkers who base their opinions on emotion rather than actual data should not be on the SCOUS.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 4/24/2019 7:56:02 AM (No. 43486)
People that make major decisions based on "fear" are usually fools.

And Sotomayor speaking for Hispanics, as a group, just because of her heritage, is arrogant. Polls are showing that about half of Hispanics are supporting Trump and they agree with controlling illegal immigration. This is why Sotomayor should keep her focus on the LAW not her biased and skewed interpretation of "group" of people. She is not in her role as a representative of the people. That would be a Congressional representative. Her role is as a representative of THE LAW.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: janjan 4/24/2019 7:56:25 AM (No. 43480)
The reasoning though, is correct. Representation in the House is assigned by population of native born Americans and legal immigrants. Losing the manipulative ability to pad the numbers with illegals are what the Democrats are most afraid of.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: tootall 4/24/2019 8:00:11 AM (No. 43502)
Representation in our Government depends upon accurate Citizen count.

If the count is skewed by illegals, isn´t my vote disenfranchised?

There are a number of other facets pertaining to the Immigration issue. The overwhelming majority of Americans (including those with Latino Heritage) want them resolved.This is a winning issue for Conservative Republicans.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: hoosierblue 4/24/2019 8:07:21 AM (No. 43487)
I take it that she means illegal Hispanics. I would imagine they have the same type of fear as other CRIMINALS in our country. So what! Does that give them special privileges to break our laws?
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Strike3 4/24/2019 8:52:34 AM (No. 43508)
The current background-check paperwork when purchasing a firearm includes the questions of race and citizenship. How do the illegal Hispanics answer those? Answer, they don´t. They carry firearms illegally just as they do everything else illegally to live in this country. On the census form they can easily claim that Sanchez, Cortez and Vasquez are Polish names so what´s to be afraid of? The result is that we have an inaccurate census being taken every decade so what´s the point?
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Reply 29 - Posted by: JimJr 4/24/2019 10:09:35 AM (No. 43501)
#6, I´ll add this:

If the "Irish" are "legal" they have nothing to fear.

If they are here illegally than they do not have a voice in our government and are not legally allowed to vote in our elections and yes, that will affect the democrats.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: bighambone 4/24/2019 10:18:00 AM (No. 43481)
If someone were interested enough to investigate and legitimately report, they would find that a good portion of the illegal alien population are falsely claiming to be US citizens to get work and social welfare benefits to which they are not lawfully entitled. Most times when illegal aliens do that, they also attest on US Government forms falsely that they are US citizens. The result of that is that those illegal aliens are committing felonies as the federal criminal laws make it unlawful for aliens to falsely claim that they are US citizens. If illegal aliens would do that, they would have little problem falsely answering a citizenship questionnaire on a census form about which they do not really have a clue.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Tennman 4/24/2019 10:26:02 AM (No. 43507)
I´m self-identifying as Hispanic these days and I´m cool with the question.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: saguni 4/24/2019 4:52:49 PM (No. 43512)
But the (lower court) judges said the motives and means matter, and there the Trump administration cut too many corners.

The Supreme Court is there to determine if something was constitutional or not. They should not be concerned about motives, means nor cutting corners.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: cheeflo 4/24/2019 5:51:08 PM (No. 43490)
Only if they´re in the country illegally.
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