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Facing Catastrophic Consequences New York
Times Now Outlines Construct of Ukraine
as USA Proxy Province

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Posted By: earlybird, 2/26/2024 5:33:05 PM

I find it very interesting this report surfaces in the New York Times and not The Washington Post first. This material distinction showcases the motive for the outline is heavily domestic in nature; meaning, the core of domestic USA politics (specifically the White House) needs to admit that Ukraine is a proxy province in order to retrigger support for policy.(snip)The White House is admitting the CIA and larger IC apparatus, which includes the State Dept., has been heavily controlling all activity in Ukraine for the past decade. The only reason to admit this now very publicly is because they are losing voter support. THIS EXPLAINS WHY

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Birddog 2/26/2024 6:10:01 PM (No. 1665825)
NOW suddenly...Biden, as front man for the Obama Regime, is confirmed to be the spearhead/frontman for the overthrow of the duly Elected Ukraine govt, in 2014, and replacement with HIS handpicked successors...creating ALL of the conflicts and problems that have occurred since. And the NYT/WaPo/CIA/CNN/Whitehouse thinks THIS is a good way to increase American voters support? That news of the 8 years of OBama/Biden/Clinton/Kerry/CIA actions to overthrow and control dozens of govts around the Globe...somehow does not buttress Trump/Repub accusations that the same exact people were also doing it HERE? Are STILL doing it here.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Ashley Brenton 2/26/2024 6:12:44 PM (No. 1665827)
Well, America, let me ask you. Are we ass kickers and name takers or not? We are the badasses who can send dirtbags like Russia to the rightabouts? No problem. I think we are.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Ashley Brenton 2/26/2024 6:20:09 PM (No. 1665832)
I am completely and 100% for Trump. I am also 100% for Russia getting its ass kicked out of Ukraine. Who is with me?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: plomke 2/26/2024 6:36:41 PM (No. 1665847)
So... this confirms that the "intelligence" community is indeed hiding bases and probably bio weapons labs in Ukraine since 2014. Do we need any further evidence that our government has played fast and furious with the facts since day one. Do you think we can vote our way out of this? Even if Trump wins and survives,do you think these people will give up power without bloodshed? No Hollywood endings here...
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Reply 5 - Posted by: volksford 2/26/2024 7:27:08 PM (No. 1665862)
CIA ....stirring up sh## where ever they go ( its nation building you know ) .
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Venturer 2/26/2024 9:37:04 PM (No. 1665940)
The CIA it either needs to be totally done away with or drastically reinvented.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: privateer 2/27/2024 6:57:47 AM (No. 1666077)
I think the Ukraine is Vietnam 3.0....a bonanza for the MIC. And the news media. The Middle East was Vietnam 2.0. Endless wars mean endless profits for arms manufacturers, and payoffs for the pols. All were conflicts in which the USA's political or strategic interest was exaggerated or non-existent. The troops will need really warm clothes for Vietnam 4.0...Antarctica.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Alecto2 2/27/2024 7:52:44 AM (No. 1666112)
#2,#3: The US services/NATO as currently constituted stand no chance. But we will soon find out because Nuland and her evil cohorts will soon get us into a shooting war. The plan was to use Ukrainian cannon fodder to weaken Russia so the West could walk in and seize all those natural resources (having failed in a previous attempt when they blackmailed Yeltsin trying to get him to appoint Berezovsky. Instead, he appointed Putin). All we've done is turn Russia into a military powerhouse despite all the sneering fake news: they use jail birds, they're running out of missiles, their troops are poorly led and incompetent, they need microchips from washing machines yakety yak. Whistling past the graveyard propaganda. In the past, we could be happy that no enemy could reach out and touch us but now Russia has missiles that can hit any part of the US and we have no defense against these hypersonic missiles except forcing them to go on a rinse/spin cycle. Keep on denigrating Russia while you cheer on our sons and daughters going off to fight and die in the MIC/Nudelman/Kaganovich/Neocon war.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: TCloud 2/27/2024 8:00:19 AM (No. 1666119)
Poking at the Bear with a now much smaller, shorter stick is FUBAR!
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Reply 10 - Posted by: pensom2 2/27/2024 9:40:33 AM (No. 1666196)
The Biden Crime Family is not alone in soliciting bribes from Ukraine. We've seen many US congresspeople make the trek to Ukraine on "fact-finding missions" over the years. John McCain traveled there several times. McCain's toady Lindsey Graham followed McCain there and returned with substantial donations to his "foundation." Nancy Pelosi didn't return from Ukraine empty-handed. Mitt Romney visited Ukraine; there have been rumors that one of his sons got some "business" appointment there. Same with John Kerry's stepson and Nancy Pelosi's son or nephew. Nancy also worked on Romania. Makes me wonder about her big, highly-publicized trips to Syria and Taiwan. Congress grew jittery when Bob Menendez tried to bootstrap his way into classified meetings on Ukraine after his bribery from Egypt was publicized--CNN even got into the action in November 2023, saying: "Democratic Sen. Bob Menendez, who has been indicted on federal corruption charges including allegations of improperly assisting the government of Egypt, attended a classified briefing on Ukraine Wednesday morning, raising concerns among some of his colleagues who believe that he should no longer be a senator or have security credentials." Pigs get fat; hogs get slaughtered. The pigs may have feared the Menendez the hog could attract too much attention to their Ukraine connections.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: frankiems 2/27/2024 10:05:45 AM (No. 1666213)
We have NO business being in Ukraine. None!
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Zigrid 2/27/2024 10:29:22 AM (No. 1666227)
Looks like Barack HUSSEIN Obama is running into some trouble because Americans have had enough with the endless taxpayer's dollars to Ukranian oligarchs ...with 10% to the big guy...his money source is drying up.....
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Foghorn 2/27/2024 12:09:42 PM (No. 1666305)
Biden conversation with Ukraine politicians that they would stop all payments for assistance if they did not fire the Ukranian AG. Maybe this is why NATO is not joining the fight. NATO joining in the fight would end the war in a day or two without expanding the war. Stop weapons and ammunition from going to Russia from China and North Korea. No one is serious about stopping the war because there is profitable to many of the Ukraine oligarchs.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: FormerDem 2/27/2024 4:38:32 PM (No. 1666470)
I went to the linked NYT article which says the Ukrainian side proved itself to the CIA ten years ago: "The Ukrainians also helped the Americans go after the Russian operatives who meddled in the 2016 U.S. presidential election." IN other words, Ukrane helped with the RussiaRussiaRussia hoax. In other words Ukraine is fine with closing down US self-government and ensnaring us all at the behest of the IC. In other words, Ukraine is as big a threat to the US as Russia is.
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