American Bar Association Scraps LSAT and
standardized admissions tests after woke
law schools including Yale and Harvard
claimed they hurt diversity
Daily Mail (UK),
by
Ronny Reyes
Original Article
Posted By: Imright,
11/18/2022 5:23:15 PM
The American Bar Association voted to drop the LSAT and other standardized tests as requirements for law school admissions.
An ABA panel made its decision on Friday after noon after a committee recommended the testing requirements be scrapped because they hurt diversity in admissions.
The LSAT, or Law School Admission Test, estimates a prospective students reasoning and reading comprehension, and it serves as a predictor on how they will fair in classes.
The ABA's ruling will take effect in the fall 2025 semester, after a final determination from the association's Hose of Delegates in February.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Safari Man 11/18/2022 5:30:58 PM (No. 1337042)
I hope I never need an attorney from this day forward
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
andyboy 11/18/2022 5:33:26 PM (No. 1337046)
According to the article, only 4 law schools agreed to drop the LSAT requirement. LSATs are used because they are good predictors of performance in law school. Sorry if that hurts some people's feelings.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Miss T 11/18/2022 5:34:17 PM (No. 1337047)
"The LSAT, or Law School Admission Test, estimates a prospective students reasoning and reading comprehension, and it serves as a predictor on how they will FAIR in classes."
One grammar mistake "a prospective students" and "fair" instead of fare. No wonder my English in-laws called that publication "The Daily Fail".
For at least thirty years as I recall, the ABA has pushed a progressive political agenda. The ABA is bound and determined to gut the legal profession.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
pugetpower 11/18/2022 5:34:34 PM (No. 1337048)
Hope they arnt pulling this horsesht in the medical field or commercial pilots, air traffic control etc.
38 people like this.
Reply 5 - Posted by:
Krause 11/18/2022 5:37:13 PM (No. 1337051)
This is not fair….to the minority person, and to his client.
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The LSAT is a very accurate predictor of not only how well a college student will do in law school, but how successful and happy the person will be as a lawyer. By far the most accurate of such type of test.
Scrapping the test is just a way of denying reality.
34 people like this.
Reply 7 - Posted by:
Geoman 11/18/2022 5:46:41 PM (No. 1337062)
The only acceptable "test" involves one's stated ideology. Look for the MCAT to follow suit, unless they are already in the lead on CRT and general wokeness.
17 people like this.
Reply 8 - Posted by:
watashiyo 11/18/2022 5:46:45 PM (No. 1337063)
Eventually, America will be flooded with mediocre professionals in every sector of employment.
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Instead they will utilize the RUBLK test criteria
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
PostAway 11/18/2022 5:47:46 PM (No. 1337065)
Why is the assumption made that low income students will do poorly on the LSAT’s simply because of their financial situation? Is the populace, whose members may at times require competent legal assistance, responsible for low family standards or underperforming and corrupt school systems which the taxpayers tolerate in certain districts? This smacks of deliberate gaming of entrance standards in order to further stock our legal system with incompetents. However, when I regard the many attorneys from the Ivy League law schools or their equivalent speak before Congressional committees or are Senators or Representatives themselves or represent clients in high profile cases such as Michael Avenatti it is obvious that changes need to be made in the quality of some lawyers and it isn’t a financial fix. Some excellent lawyers like Clarence Thomas came from extremely poor backgrounds.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
LeeBertie 11/18/2022 5:48:50 PM (No. 1337066)
If you're too dumb to pass the entrance tests, nevermind, we will welcome you anyway, maybe even allow you a 50 point handicap on exams and papers required for graduation. America needs more dumb lawyers.
33 people like this.
Reply 12 - Posted by:
Quigley 11/18/2022 6:02:43 PM (No. 1337071)
The rush to eradicate meritocracy is on at full speed. With a mentally unfit pResident and mentally damaged new senator viewed as a feature not a bug, all that’s necessary in any Dim is for the candidate to go along with the plans formulated by whoever formulates Dim plans.
Eliminate O&G
Eliminate Police
Eliminate Meritocracy
=
Utopia
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Aria 11/18/2022 6:08:39 PM (No. 1337079)
Just wait until they demand to be doctors and pilots.
This is the deliberate dumbing down of the USA - led by Biden, Fetterman, Kamala, and those too old to talk but who still somehow vote in Congress like Feinstein, etc...
I just don't know how you cure this trend.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Rich323 11/18/2022 6:09:08 PM (No. 1337080)
This is the final collapse of American justice. The globalists are growing a judiciary based on political beliefs and thin to none on legal and constitutional knowledge. A Supreme Court full of these stooges will serve their masters and not the law. We’re halfway there already based on recent Supreme Court findings.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
TJ54 11/18/2022 6:19:53 PM (No. 1337085)
I was a partner in a large international law firm based in the US. We made Blacks partners and all of them failed. We were a very liberal Firm (I was a closet conservztive)
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Scribelus 11/18/2022 6:19:55 PM (No. 1337086)
The attorney-client relationship is founded on trust. If law schools cannot assure that their graduates are trustworthy in their knowledge, that foundation is lost, along with their handsome tuition fees.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Right Time 11/18/2022 6:22:10 PM (No. 1337090)
NEVER HIRE a POC lawyer
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
texaspast 11/18/2022 6:23:26 PM (No. 1337092)
Less than 15 percent of all lawyers belong to the ABA. 40 years ago, it was over 50%. They went uber-liberal, and lost a lot of us. $450 a year in dues and all I'd get is a lousy liberal magazine and put on every dem's donor begging list. No upside, whole lot of downside to the ABA. But everyone thinks they speak for all lawyers, like people believe the AMA speaks for doctors - even though less than 15% of all doctors belong to the AMA, and a large percentage of those are right out of med school when dues are really low, and the new docs still think having an AMA membership certificate on your office wall impresses anybody. The AMA is in the pocket of big pharma and insurance, and that's who they side with against the interest of physicians.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
stablemoney 11/18/2022 6:28:07 PM (No. 1337097)
This is why we have so many idiot lawyers with no ethical standards.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
udanja99 11/18/2022 6:28:13 PM (No. 1337098)
The lesson here is - never hire a lawyer who is under the age of 40. Of course, 20 years from now we’ll have to change that to the age of 60.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
earlybird 11/18/2022 6:32:03 PM (No. 1337103)
Much ado about Yale and Harvard. DM hopes you’ll click on headline. Ir you read artidle you’ll find this:
“Regardless of how the ABA panel votes, 41 of 82 law schools in the US recently polled by Kaplan Testing said they would keep the tests”
This is non-news. We can do better than Brit tabloids.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Birddog 11/18/2022 6:33:23 PM (No. 1337105)
In other words...they are dropping it so that people who will never graduate, let alone pass the Bar Exam can go into dept to the tune of $100's thousands in Federal Student loans....that they will never be able to repay. So that a "Look how DIVERSE we are!" Headline can be bragged about.
Phase 2 is... waive the Bar Exam for these same diversity students, most of whom would then ONLY be hired by public defender outfits, giving them govt paychecks where their "Service" would allow their Govt loans to be 'forgiven'.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
paral04 11/18/2022 6:34:09 PM (No. 1337107)
What these people are saying is that minorities are too stupid to pass the LSATs. How insulting is that? And how dangerous. Because, now anyone from this time forward who wants an attorney will infer that minorities are not prepared to defend them.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
marbles 11/18/2022 6:40:34 PM (No. 1337112)
#10 It's how liberals think
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
WhamDBambam 11/18/2022 6:46:30 PM (No. 1337122)
The so-called “American Bar Association” became simply a leftist trade organization years ago.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
pros7767 11/18/2022 6:51:00 PM (No. 1337131)
Actually, I disagree with most of the posts here.
As a lawyer who took the LSAT's, I firmly believe most of these stupid tests are nothing but money makers for the testing and testing prep site. What will always determine your success is how hard you are willing to work to achieve your goals.
My SAT's weren't high enough to get into the prestigious colleges but I graduated magna cum laude because I worked hard. Same with law school. Some of the brightest people in our law school class failed the bar. It measures nothing, IMHO.
Right now, the "best" schools are jokes and employers are figuring it out! As for Med School. Yes, testing is definitely needed!
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Iconoclast 11/18/2022 6:57:13 PM (No. 1337140)
Mr Reyes probably wouldn’t FARE very well on the LSAT. The verb should be fare, not fair.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
JunkYardDog 11/18/2022 6:57:54 PM (No. 1337141)
The Left's goal of 'equality' is that, when everyone is the same, NO ONE is special. Except for their political master they keep voting into office, that is.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
NotaBene 11/18/2022 7:18:38 PM (No. 1337161)
At least Biden is paying for the College bills of these parasites.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
kono 11/18/2022 7:24:49 PM (No. 1337170)
Radical Inclusivity is the adversary of excellence. Not because diverse groups cannot be excellent, but because priorities affect outcomes, and giving diversity a higher priority than weights the outcome more towards diversity than quality.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 11/18/2022 7:30:06 PM (No. 1337175)
Merit is for bigots.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 11/18/2022 7:31:37 PM (No. 1337177)
#4, but they are.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
Debrawr 11/18/2022 8:10:51 PM (No. 1337201)
The DOJ needs more lawyers.
3 people like this.
Reply 34 - Posted by:
Italiano 11/18/2022 8:28:59 PM (No. 1337213)
It sure didn't hurt "diversity in admissions" in my class at UCLA Law in the 70's. Unfortunately, the AA law students were totally over-matched, and few if any passed the California Bar Exam.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
padiva 11/18/2022 10:16:36 PM (No. 1337252)
HRC will teach the ethics classes.
How to hide your billing records.
How to alter the truth.
How to marry someone who is more successful so you can try to take over his job.
etc
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
leonardo 11/18/2022 10:30:04 PM (No. 1337262)
Without MERIT Americans cannot trust ANY professional. Want a heart surgeon or a pilot who got to his or her position by skipping qualifications and by affirmative action? Diversity will not help you IF YOU ARE DEAD.
Just put all of these MERIT-less candidates into the BLUE STATES and watch what happens. Oh, your feelings are hurt if you botch the surgery and someone bravely points out that you were not qualified? TOO BAD. Make the grade or DO SOMETHING ELSE.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
Ashley Brenton 11/18/2022 10:44:54 PM (No. 1337266)
Diversity is less important than skill and comprtency.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
MissMann 11/18/2022 11:25:42 PM (No. 1337283)
Sounds like they'll be raking in a lot of tuition without actually producing lawyers.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
mifla 11/19/2022 4:04:41 AM (No. 1337344)
ABA announces that Minorities are too stupid to pass standardized tests.
Fixed the headline for ya.
4 people like this.
Reply 40 - Posted by:
5 handicap 11/19/2022 5:41:48 AM (No. 1337371)
God forbid we should seek excellence! Shakespeare had it right, did he not?
2 people like this.
Reply 41 - Posted by:
red1066 11/19/2022 5:52:26 AM (No. 1337377)
I remember taking the LSAT. I did fairly well. Certainly, better than I expected, but then I remembered I didn't have any money for law school, and that ended my law career.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
coldoc 11/19/2022 6:10:38 AM (No. 1337383)
Get ready for a whole new batch of soros approved (and quite ill-intentioned) minority da's.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
Msquared112 11/19/2022 6:21:18 AM (No. 1337393)
There goes the legal profession.
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
BarryNo 11/19/2022 7:16:31 AM (No. 1337422)
What difference does it make?
To the Dems, the law and the Constitution is whatever they say it is.
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I have an idea for them.
Become a lawyer by nomination from a congressman....like boys state.
That should end well. /s
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Reply 46 - Posted by:
Paperpuncher 11/19/2022 8:09:57 AM (No. 1337462)
Since the United States has the highest amount of attorneys per capital of any country in the world we could do with less of them. There are approximately 1,300,000 attorneys in the U.S. We should just shut the law schools down for a while to cull the herd.
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Reply 47 - Posted by:
Roscoelewis 11/19/2022 8:48:55 AM (No. 1337494)
80% of being successful at anything is working hard at it.
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Reply 48 - Posted by:
judy 11/19/2022 10:06:48 AM (No. 1337589)
I hope they won't do the same for pilots, doctors, nurses, railroad personnel....
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Reply 49 - Posted by:
DVC 11/19/2022 10:08:41 AM (No. 1337593)
Yeah, requiring actual reading, writing and thinking skills is Racist because they think that only white people can read, write and think.
Systemic fight against competency.
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Reply 50 - Posted by:
Starlifter Nav 11/19/2022 3:51:22 PM (No. 1337863)
@#4 (Hat tip - #32) Boy, are they ever!
The applications now contain mandatory essay questions that basically describe "How I am woke, and how I will apply it in the context of medicine."
Applicants have to hold their noses and lie.... because no "I am woke" declaration ( followed / demonstrated by actions in required courses on "privilege" and "equity") = no admission.
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Reply 51 - Posted by:
Starlifter Nav 11/19/2022 3:56:28 PM (No. 1337867)
AND major airlines have declared that 50% of their new "pilot training" programs will be 'persons of color'.
Flying experience? "Don't worry - we'll teach ya..."
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