How can NASA's new telescope see 'back
in time' to the beginnings of the universe?
Why IS everyone so excited? And what exactly
are we looking at? Your questions about
the James Webb telescope answered
Daily Mail (UK),
by
Sam Tonkin
Original Article
Posted By: Imright,
7/16/2022 1:16:14 AM
Spectacular and groundbreaking snapshots of the early cosmos gripped the world earlier this week when NASA released the first images from its new super space telescope.
James Webb captured an unprecedented look at a 'stellar nursery', a dying star cloaked by dust and a 'cosmic dance' between a group of galaxies, along with hints of water vapor in the atmosphere of a remote exoplanet.
What is even more exciting, however, is that astronomers say this is just 'the tip of the iceberg'.
It is hoped the $10 billion (£7.4 billion) telescope will also observe the very first stars to shine, detect habitable planets in far-away galaxies and peer back in time
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Highlander 7/16/2022 1:30:32 AM (No. 1217575)
Really nice pretty pictures. What they demonstrate to me is God’s awesome power of creation and He exists OUTSIDE of all we see!
No accident there.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
RuckusTom 7/16/2022 2:24:14 AM (No. 1217596)
"It is hoped the $10 billion (£7.4 billion) telescope ..." Those are some pretty hefty government grants.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
HisHandmaiden 7/16/2022 3:51:57 AM (No. 1217601)
So amazing:
“Webb also doesn't orbit Earth, like its predecessor Hubble does, but rather orbits the sun 1 million miles (1.5 million km) from our planet at what is called the second Lagrange point or L2.”
Proving…
‘1 The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork.
2 Day to day pours out speech, and night to night reveals knowledge.’ (Psalms 19:1, ESV)
TBIYTC
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
5 handicap 7/16/2022 5:35:05 AM (No. 1217630)
These are indeed very nice pics...$!0,000.000.000. in startup costs which will be dwarfed by the ongoing salaries upkeep etc. The arcticle failed miserably to elucidate the reasons and importance of such expenditures, other than the ego of some astronomer. Nice pictures though!
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
watashiyo 7/16/2022 5:40:20 AM (No. 1217632)
10 billion was spent on this toy and the cure for, "stuck on stupid" is still elusive.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
franq 7/16/2022 6:01:42 AM (No. 1217640)
They can search all they want, but will never learn the answer until they crack a Bible.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Pook60 7/16/2022 6:08:54 AM (No. 1217643)
Those pretty pictures are not how it actually appears. It is art work based on data collection. It's like watching Jurassic Park.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Amoeba 7/16/2022 6:31:22 AM (No. 1217651)
My Bible tells me that the earth is slightly less than 7000 years old at this time- and God aint wrong....'science' told all the inhabitants of earth during Noah's time that building an ark was ridiculous because it wasnt going to rain...............https://www.creationworldview.org/a-primer-on-the-scientific-reasons-that-evolution-is-wrong
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Californian 7/16/2022 6:48:52 AM (No. 1217660)
Without the science work of NASA and other agencies who had to solve difficult problems to get into space and view other worlds we would not have most of the things we have today, starting with the computers we use to go on the internet.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Bur Oak 7/16/2022 6:53:55 AM (No. 1217664)
From what I've seen Webb photographs more of what Hubble has already photographed.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
ARKfamily 7/16/2022 7:02:52 AM (No. 1217674)
#9, God still gets the credit. Who do you think created science?
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
stablemoney 7/16/2022 7:20:02 AM (No. 1217692)
Seeing back in time is based on the Big Bang theory, that the universe was formed by the Big Bang from a center of dense mass. That explosion separated the mass as the pieces were progressively peeled away, meaning some pieces came off first, then others later. The universe is rapidly expanding as the pieces move away from that center. A piece moving out first from the center has moved 10X distance, while more recent pieces have moved 1X distance, meaning the 10X piece is older, and the 1X piece is younger, thus looking back in time. The universe expansion being based on time and distance from the center of the Big Bang. It is extraordinarily amazing that we can look back in time to the beginning of the universe. I am still trying to absorb the immensity of the universe that has billions of galaxies. I don't think we are alone.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 7/16/2022 7:20:57 AM (No. 1217697)
Poster #11 - - Your question has a simple answer.
Two-Tongue Tony Fauci not only created science - - He also created god. I saw it on CNN.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Strike3 7/16/2022 7:34:15 AM (No. 1217711)
They think they can see the edge of the universe, that's funny. A gnat looking at your living room wall can see the edge of his universe too.
These pictures are beautiful but way overpriced, not unlike Hunter's finger paintings.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
jimboscott 7/16/2022 9:22:19 AM (No. 1217816)
8,
The Bible says no such thing.
"In the beginning, God..." is all one needs to know about the universe when it comes to one's spiritual life. Trying to pinpoint the age of the earth is what Paul would have called 'vain imaginations'. Nobody on their death bed cries out "How old is the earth?".
Mercy and forgiveness predate all creation, regardless of how old the planet, solar system, or universe are. THAT is ALL one needs to know. And that is all that really matters when one faces the burden of their own sin. Did Paul ever reason with the Greeks over the age of the earth? No. Did Peter do so on the day of Pentecost? No. Luther make that his 96th thesis? No. Billy Graham ever get into that? No.
Why not? Because it is not worth the breath expended on it.
Finally, a young earth that is made, for all scientific examination, to look ancient from all manner of disciplines sort of makes God a deceiver in my book. This is not 'The Truman Show'. It is not a facade. The universe is an expression of God, who is infinite and exists outside of time and space. I find more comfort living in a universe that reflects God's expansive nature than swimming out a few miles into the ocean and bumping into the sky.
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Remember the Tower of Babel.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
konocti95 7/16/2022 9:34:38 AM (No. 1217829)
Please do not confuse the James Webb telescope or the Hubble telescope with the tragic Webb Hubble telescope, which looked into the black hole designated HRC 813-1 and was never heard from again.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
TexaTucky 7/16/2022 9:45:41 AM (No. 1217841)
$10 billion is a lot of money. No doubt a not-insignificant amount of it is wasted on the inefficiencies and corruptions inherent to government spending on any project.
We have sent over FIVE TIMES that amount to Ukraine to kill people and prop up a puppet in somebody's proxy war.
The pretty pictures and exploration of God's creation seem worth it to me by comparison.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
red1066 7/16/2022 9:50:19 AM (No. 1217847)
I don't understand the need for this thing other than they could spend 10 billion and billions more running it. Of what good does this do for the anyone other than some academics and scientists? Who cares if they can see hundreds of millions of light years. How does that impact anyone's daily life unless you're making a good salary from working on the project? We already knew from Hubble there were thousands of galaxies out there. Did we really need another space scope to tell us what we already knew?
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
ROLFNader 7/16/2022 9:54:54 AM (No. 1217851)
I'm not sure if I get all this space stuff but I'm still a fan of Jim Webb's " MacArthur Park".
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Gordon Mills 7/16/2022 10:07:58 AM (No. 1217867)
Neither the JWST nor any other telescope can look back in time. They can only measure the energy that strikes their detector(s).
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Namma 7/16/2022 10:30:11 AM (No. 1217895)
#6 hit the nail on the head! Best post of the day.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Axeman 7/16/2022 10:35:00 AM (No. 1217904)
It is impossible for an earth based telescope to see close to the begining of anything in an expanding universe. Unless space is toroidal, or some other strange topography, entirely possible. Another story...
For light to take a long time to reach us it had to be very far from us before it started. To be very far from us it had to expand away for a long time. This is a limiting function, the farther away it is by redshift measurement, the farther is was before the light left, and by the time we see it, the much farther it is now as it has continued moving away the whole time.
Nice pictures though.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
minuteman 7/16/2022 11:36:44 AM (No. 1217950)
As a scientist and as a young earth creationist, I believe that what the Bible has to say about the age of the earth is very important and suggesting that it allows for an old earth destroys its authority on every other issue, including salvation.
For those with an interest this is very good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuRFueoiu78
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
jimboscott 7/16/2022 11:52:16 AM (No. 1217966)
Major on the major. Young earthers make Richard Dawkins look smart and believers look stupid to the vast majority of the lost world.
Did God create the moon with hundreds of thousands of craters intact? If so... how does God get away with doing something deliberately deceitful? Honestly. Romans 1 says that we are without excuse because God's handiwork is clearly visible for all to see. Now, young earthers are proposing that God's CLEAR handiwork is a clever ruse to trick us into coming to the conclusion that the earth is old.
Did God create distant stars that were already in their final death throes, going into supernovas? Did He create light already in transit from galaxies billions of light years away? If so, then He did so knowing that the conclusions we would draw from the current state of nature, using the God created laws of the physical universe as our guide, would create a false impression.
God is not the author of confusion.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
smokincol 7/16/2022 12:31:00 PM (No. 1217984)
every single image the Webb shows only adds another question to the already unanswerable question:
how big is the Universe?
and the problem is that, "scientists" can only think of limitations and not the concept of never having a beginning or an end and that's where God enters the picture because God has no beginning and no end and is limitless
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
EQKimball 7/16/2022 1:37:16 PM (No. 1218041)
The Big Bang works for me. “And God said ‘let there be light’ and there was light.” Genesis 1:3
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
doctorfixit 7/16/2022 9:26:30 PM (No. 1218410)
How can NASA's new telescope see 'back
in time' to the beginnings of the universe?
It can't. Fake News techno hype. At a certain point back in time, all of the light from that time has already passed by and there are no stars out there.
If you want to see the Big Bang, you would have to point at a point in space where nothing exists.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
MickTurn 7/16/2022 10:41:45 PM (No. 1218479)
As Usual, NASA is doing a whole lot of Assuming...
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
JimBob 7/17/2022 1:56:44 AM (No. 1218554)
I applaud the scientists, engineers, technicians, and all the people who worked on the Webb telescope project.
It is a fantastic achievement.
For those griping about the cost, all that money was spent HERE, and we now have technical capabilities that we would not have if it had not been built.
I personally despise the phrase "looking back in time" as if we are time travelers. We are not, except that we travel along in the present time. We are seeing the Telescope's interpretation of the light it receives, light that has been travelling through space, some of it for a long, long time. We see images of faraway things as they existed long ago, when the light was first emitted, just as we see and feel a water wave that was generated a while ago and a ways away, that is just now reaching us.
That "seeing back in time". Ugh. A phrase used by the Media to oversimplify -to trivialize- what is really happening.
But.... that is what the Media has always done with things that they don't really understand, particularly with the space program. They trivialize and often ridicule things which they know nothing - and could care less- about.
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